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| Does anyone know of any criteria that could possibly stop a player being selected apart from the obvious?
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Dont know what Ashurst has to do to be selected outstanding consistency'"
He has and its unfortunate for him that time is probably not on his side at 28. Been shouted down elsewhere but would you honestly pick him ahead of Bateman, Elliot Whitehead or Sam Burgess? Fair enough argument he could have had Greenwood's place but maybe Greenwood is seen as a future option for 2021 world cup
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"He has and[u its unfortunate for him that time is probably not on his side at 28[/u. Been shouted down elsewhere but would you honestly pick him ahead of Bateman, Elliot Whitehead or Sam Burgess? Fair enough argument he could have had Greenwood's place but maybe Greenwood is seen as a future option for 2021 world cup'"
Yeah, I think his age is the only thing stopping him from selection to the knights. They do tend to go for guys who are up and coming like Batch and 26 looks to be about the maximum age they've gone for, Ashurst at 28 seems to be that little bit too old.
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"He has and its unfortunate for him that time is probably not on his side at 28. Been shouted down elsewhere but would you honestly pick him ahead of Bateman, Elliot Whitehead or Sam Burgess? Fair enough argument he could have had Greenwood's place but maybe Greenwood is seen as a future option for 2021 world cup'"
Sam Burgess has now pulled out of the squad through having operations, they will announce his replacement over the weekend.
Possibly MA?
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| Quote ="phe13"Sam Burgess has now pulled out of the squad through having operations, they will announce his replacement over the weekend.
Possibly MA?'"
You'd think he'd be in the mix certainly, based on Super League form he should be. McMeekin went to the world cup but generally not hit the standards of 2017 from what i've seen though generally does a job on us. Not sure who else would be in consideration?
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| Scott Taylor from Hull would be my guess for the replacement, went well in Denver.
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| Scott Taylor is an out and out prop though isn't he?
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| Yeah he is as far as i'm aware, just seems like the sort of thing Bennett would do. Fingers crossed Ashurst gets the call or somebody from the knights gets promoted and he takes their place.
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| It absolutely baffles me that MA is in the top two second rowers in the league (dream team), yet cant get in to EITHER national representative team. I get that the England 2nd team is more for the youth and if theres an age limit then that's fair enough, but how hasnt be been picked for the England team anyway!? He wouldnt start, youd expect Elliott Whitehead and Bateman but surely worth a squad place
i thought the same with Kirmo a few years when he was in the dream team but not for England, we need Gareth Southgate to pick our team, he looks to be picking on form rather than reputation etc
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| As mentioned on Facebook I think FC will probably ask Taylor to decline considering the tough season he’s had with no preseason rest.
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| I would love to see Ashurst get the call. His development into a quality second rower has been fantastic. Never mind France I would like to see him tested against the best
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| I like Ashurst a lot but it really shows the difference between club and country when we think he might have a chance of replacing Burgess.
There is a massive gap between the two players.
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| I dunno where you're going with that PT
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| Quote ="Upanunder"I dunno where you're going with that PT'"
Reading it back... I'm not sure either.
I think I cut it off before I finished.
I guess my point is that although Ashurst is great for us and was voted into the dream team, it doesn't automatically make him international quality.
But now I look through the alternatives there is no better second rower in SL.
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| S'what I was thinking, he might not be a Burgess but who is
Its about the same for Reece I reckon, stats and performance don't lie, they're simply up there with the best we have whether the stack up against the players they replace, or not.
Anyway, I hope they all get to play and carry their game through, it'll be a big confidence boost for them and ultimately benefit WT.
no flippin injuries pls...
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| Now Myler gets called up to England squad. Are they having a laugh? Also just noticed that in the England Knights we have Brad Fash, Ash Handley, Mikolaj Oledzki, Jamie Shaul (just had his worst season ever), Liam Sutcliffe! and D Walker (who?). Yet Ashurst can't get in either! Unbelievable.
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| Knights is for younger players. It's not a B team.
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| So two years makes all the difference then. Dean Hadley is in there at 26 years and so is Oliver Holmes.
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| Quote ="Two Points"So two years makes all the difference then. Dean Hadley is in there at 26 years and so is Oliver Holmes.'"
Agreed, always though it was for "fringe" players.
Most of them are up and coming younger players but, not all of them
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| Myler is scrapping the barrell as far as international class goes. Ryan Hall I'd have given a pass but after that season there isn't a Leeds player who should be near the England squad.
Frustrating that's Ashhurst continues to sit out, wonder if any Wigan / Wire will withdraw this week?
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| TBF to Myler, its not exactly like Gale or Smith before him have ripped up trees on the international stage.
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| Granted.
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| Quote ="Two Points"Now Myler gets called up to England squad. Are they having a laugh? Also just noticed that in the England Knights we have Brad Fash, Ash Handley, Mikolaj Oledzki, Jamie Shaul (just had his worst season ever), Liam Sutcliffe! and D Walker (who?). Yet Ashurst can't get in either! Unbelievable.'"
Not sure what your issue is, Myler is a direct replacement for Gale.
I actually think Myler will do well, no pressure, not a bad player on his day has experience and no have no great expectations hanging over him.
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| Quote ="vastman"Not sure what your issue is, Myler is a direct replacement for Gale.
I actually think Myler will do well, no pressure, not a bad player on his day has experience and no have no great expectations hanging over him.'"
Agree, there weren't too many players that they could turn to at this point. Myler's been decent enough during a poor season for Leeds. he's got plenty of experience playing in big games and has played a number of times before for England and when he's playing well he's a good enough player. Like you say he's got nothing to lose so he's under no pressure so hopefully, he'll play well.
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| Myler is a really good choice
He's a very capable player on his day
Playing behind our pack I think he will go well
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