Never noticed the Cabin.

Why oh why does our club not announce forthcoming under 18's or under 16's matches at first team games. You get the impression that they know these games will be taking place but would prefer it if nobody came to see them. As for the cheerleaders. I am old enough to remember the marching bands at half time.Now that would be my preference.

We've done it for Whinos and Shudds no reason why we couldn't do Wakey. The club would just need to get in touch

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please no

Ah well as many have said - stuck in our ways

Cas' cheerleaders showed ours up because they're obviously a proper group who've been together much longer. (And were better than the Dolls were anyway.)

Personally, if you're going to have dancers, have proper ones who are 18+ or don't bother. Is it entertaining to watch a bunch of kids dance out of tune, other than to their parents?

Not sure of your understanding of what the cheerleaders are about. For me, they are a way to engage young people in the club and if along the way they provide entertainment before kick off and at half time, then that is a bonus.

Nah, they are all boring IMHO but if we must at least make it look professional - I know what the aim is but I don't believe it works.

By using the word Proffesional on your reply Vastman you are obviously implying we pay someone to come in and dance. Haven't we been down this route once before. It's a sad indictment of where we are as a bunch of fans when we are sticking the boot in to a bunch of kids.

The dancers will only get better by performing a bit like players, you don't play, you don't get better.

Try reading Jason before pontificating.

I said I don't like Cheerleaders full stop - however if we must the professionals please.

I have no issue with the kids dancing but that's not cheerleading is it and should be separate IMO.

What the OP said was that it all looked wrong and a bit of a mess and I agree. If you don't like that opinion, tough.

Go on then. What in your opinion would be suitable, cost effective pre match entertainment?

Don't want to get into the cheerleader debate particularly, but for me the pre-match entertainment should be the under16s playing their counterparts from the visiting SL team.

Fans spend longer in the ground (therefore they spend more money in the ground....)
We get to see some of the fantastic future WTW lads
The under16s get to play in front of a bigger audience which will add value for them
Away fans have an added incentive to visit Belle Vue

There must be a good reason why this doesn't happen, because to me its a no-brainer.

As for half-time entertainment, I always liked the homefan v awayfan sumo goalkick challenge......

I recon they should have a lynching at half time just to set the mood for the second half. And every Kick and chase shoot the last man up the field that will make them all the quicker.

under 16s are either 12-00 on sat or evening, there never done on the same day

beside it brings in some income as little as it is

There you go, I said there'd be a good reason! Thanks Snowie!

Unfortunately for those of us that don't live around the corner (BV is an 80 mile roundtrip for me and my family); it means that it's unrealistic to attend both, c'est la vie I suppose....

Cheerleaders mums out in force I see.

I thought I'd made it clear that I don't especially wish for any Pre Match Entertainment - I go for the Rugby (or what passes for it at BV).

However in an attempt to answer the OP I'd prefer professional to the kids. That doesn't mean I wouldn't let the youngsters do their bit I just wouldn't have them together with the pro's it just looked like we couldn't afford our own and borrowed them from Cas which I most certainly wouldn't have done.

Just my opinion.

It's ok having a pre match game but it has to finish in good time to let the players and match officials on to warm up. It's the half hour before the match when the fans need entertaining but the space on the pitch is limited that we need to possibly tweak.

Just to address the balance a couple of years ago for the away game at the Jungle (which we famously came back from the dead to win) our Dolls (the glamourous older paid ones) had a dance off with the Castleford Claws (or whatever they call themselves) and we blew them away. Swings and roundabouts.

I remember it well - Sarah certainly had her gals well trained then.
You are correct - it is the Castleford Claws - not to be confused with the Castleford Claus - that would be our very own Ritchie Owen.

Just like to say that the kids pay for their own gear which isnt cheap..also they pay for classes which jo does brill with the girls..and the cas claws were made up with loads of dolls from last year..sarah took the dolls and kittens name with her and diesnt allow any of last years kit to be used even though the girls had to pay for that as well..

I'd get rid of that sat nav mate, 80 mile round trip from Barnsley?

Ha ha!! I moved from Barnsley a couple of years ago, it's taken me a massive effort to remember my password to come on here, never mind remember how to change my location details!!



Anyway, up the trin!

Sorry mate, couldn't resist.