They're probably not, but they bloody well deserve it. How many of those players yesterday would you say had a good game or played to their ability level???
For me there are very few who could hold their heads up high after that - Jowitt and Kay are probably the only ones that I thought deserved any credit.

I agree that Chester needs to shoulder some of the blame but where is the personal pride from the players? I saw at least 10 of them out there yesterday that I know could and should have put in more effort. Yes, it is Chesters job to motivate them but if they're not willing to work for the team or each other then he's fighting a losing battle before he even starts.

I disagree, whilst I think there is maybe a few players not pulling there weight on the whole I now feel sorry for the playing group, in the second half we had 2 sets on there line where which just consisted of Fififta and Hampshire running side to side like you would see in a under 8`s game.

They have have no structure to work to, no plan B when pressed, no confidence in the man either side of them, nothing to work with, I genuinely believe if you replace that team man for man 1 to 17 with KRs and have Chester coach them for the last year, they would look the same. I was done blaming the players a year ago when every week its a different player, there's on common denominator here, players come in and look great they progressively get worse the longer they are at the club.

Batch is a prime example of it happening right now, I genuinely believe he is one of the most promising second rowers in the league, got dominated in every collision yesterday and right now is absolutely wasted in the front row, yet Chester believes he has found his best position? 2 or 3 more games before fans start bagging him.

big turning points in that game fafita dropping the drop out and Miller taking the kicking off rocky and he totally lost control of the game. Shambolic performance, baffling and simply not on, we should of caked walked that.

Totally agree .. Innes Senior didn't help either.

Funny how when Innes came to us last season, there were quite a few fans saying, 'what a promising player he looks with a great turn of speed'.
12 months down the line and he's crap.
One common denominator in this.

Let's be clear. He was sent to us because the Huddersfield coaches couldn't get his promise out of him either.

More likely they have better options and allowed us to give their youngster some game time rather than our own. Pointless loan signing with Kay, Kershaw, Johnstone, and even Greensmith who should be filling the 4th winger spot to gain experience until he moves inside

Or you could remember the reality and see that we had no one else with Covid and injuries.
He's had promising moments and plugged a gap when we needed it.
Chester hasn't made him a bad player no matter how much you want to blame all the ills of the world on him

You know that for sure then?
Well if he'd stayed at Shudds he'd still be the same player, not going backwards like all the rest at Wakefield.

That's not true, he was sent to us as his game time was looking limited with Hudds as is the case with most loan moves, if they didn`t think they could get his promise out of him then why give him a new deal last year?

Well I know didn't progress at Huddersfield and was shipped to us. I think it's a fair conclusion.
And he was making these mistakes in his first game so no, I don't think he's gone backwards at Wakefield.

If they didn't think he'd be coached well at Wakefield why send him here?

I'm not defending Chester for the things he's doing wrong. Just pointing out when people are just lumping everything on him to jump on the band wagon.

Senior did not have a good game fair point, But we got a lot more problem on the Ashurst, Arundel,Johnston side .Ashurst and Arundel are far too slow to cover any breaks down there side ,there two slow to slide across when defending our line and the ball is so slow that one of the best wingers in S L got one pass . He spent a lot of the time in the centre towards the end of the game. when defending . Johnson is just wasted at this club

But that's the whole point you appear to be missing?! The Chairman WON'T sack the coach will he, he's being employed for the benefit of himself rather than the benefit of the club, because no coach would expect to still be there with that win/loss ratio? It appears he's not to be judged or made accountable, therefore he's untouchable, and given his post match interviews when he never takes reponsibility for anything, he's also slightly deluded as to his own coaching ability? That's now why Carter is getting flak, rightly or wrongly, he has basically brought this on himself, by failing to act sooner.

Never said Chester has made him a bad player, just an unnecessary loan signing.

Maybe the chairman doesn't need to sack the coach, personally I much prefer to read the thread than post on it nowadays, and I've read quite a lot of rumours concerning everything club wise on here, there's plenty of rumours regarding a new deal for the coach, the only thing some fans can't decide is the length of the new contract, I haven't a clue whether it's been signed or it's just on the table or whether indeed there is a new contract at all, do you really know yourself? or are you just going with the flow like the rest of us, my point being is that unless you actually know for sure there is a contract why upset yourself over rumours, if there isn't a contract on offer then he doesn't need to sack him he'll go for nothing at the end of the season anyway, we've nothing to look forward to as things stand, and this way Carter does what he does best by saving money for things more important hopefully, that's how I see it time will tell I suppose.

It's far easier to change the coach than it is to clear out half of the players.
I dont think that Kear would come back for a 3rd spell but, i'm happy to wager every penny that I have, that Kear would get more out of the players that we have than Mr Chester is doing.
He's a proven first grade coach, unlike Mr Chester.

IF we make a change in Head Coach, we may find that some of our players arent too bad.

Apart from Leigh being below us, our current situation has all the ingredients of the Tony "Casper" Smith reign and look what a difference a new coach had with that same set of players

Didn't we sign him when Kershaw for injured last season with a long termer and TJ out as well.

Maybe in future we shouldn't be looking at hiring a coach who'd sooner be on the golf course

What about the article the other day saying the club was on the verge of making some 'notable' signings and CC said all that needs doing is crossing the t's and dotting the i's.
The uncertainty surrounding the coaching situation is only fuelled more by imminent signings being overseen by CC.

He did claim his own uncertainty with regards his own contract impacted on us retaining Westerman.

Probably didn't want his game to deteriorate if CC was still coach!

Did Westerman sign for Cas when he found out that Chester was staying

That's always the defining issue. There is simply no way around it, CC may be a fine Coach but he'd only be one of hundreds who paid the price for the actions of his players. He may also be totally rubbish. Either way, I'd be amazed if we went down the get rid of players route first rather than sack the coach as it's just not practical as far as I can tell.

Last season maybe, this year?