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| Quote ="The Avenger"Monaghan is a gamble, he's never coached before and being a great player guarantees nothing. Look at Briers, same type of quality but not deemed ready to even be assistant at Warrington, Agar seen as the better option. He might turn out to be a superb Coach though but we can't afford to be his coaching experiment
Woods is a great self publicist, but has never Coached at anywhere near SL level so despite success at a number of lower league clubs he's a huge gamble as well.
=#FF0000Kear remains a strong option but only in the short term, he's not the right man to set the club up for future success.
Morrison looks almost ready but from what I hear it's Glenn himself who has reservations about whether this is the time and whether Wakefield is the Club especially given their current state. Then there's the refusal to talk to him which seems to end that one once and for all.
Neil Kelly perceived to have been out of the game for a while so might be out of touch. Though he's been operating at the top level of Rugby Union, Coaching international Coaches and will have some fresh ideas to bring. Good track record, 2006 SL Coach of the year, GF wins, promotions, international Coach.
Noble, like Kear but not as good at handling our kind of issues IMO
JD is a funny one, he has done great at Keighley and Northern Pride but they too are at a lower evel than SL. He's enjoyed the presence of some very good players in his teams which has given him an advantage. He's progressing through an NRL pathway and is very well thought of so will he abandon that and uproot his family again?'"
I would disagree with that. I think Kear is very much a long term building coach. We just need to give him some infrastructure to build on rather than no money and first team results are the only judgement.
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| Quote ="wildshot"The Avenger I'm reading your article and you seem to have reservations for a lot of the key candidates. Is there anyone who'd be your out and out favourite, with least reservations about?'"
Of the candidates I know, and there's a few I don't know the names of as we are apparently into double figures in terms of applications, they each have a level of uncertainty around them but they all have some great attributes as well. The dream team might be Kear with Morrison as his assistant with the long term plan being Morrison taking over in 6 to 12 months.
That's probably off the table due to Mark Sawyers refusal to speak to his Coach and what seems to be Glenn's reservations about whether this is right for him, there's also the matter of both Batley and Dewsbury being compensated when we have no money.
I like the idea of Kelly as he's a Wakefield man though I have mixed feelings about his time away from the game. On the one hand I wonder how much has changed during his time Coaching Union but then again if we appointed Sean Edwards no one would worry about him never having coached League and being out of the game for over a decade.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I would disagree with that. I think Kear is very much a long term building coach. We just need to give him some infrastructure to build on rather than no money and first team results are the only judgement.'"
Based on his previous record at Wakefield, he totally ignored the Youth structure, in fact, he raided it of every resource other than players and left it years behind that of other SL clubs.
Not much long term succession planning going on there!
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Regards Northern Pride, you might be correct but would they be capable of beating Wigan, Sts, Warrington, Leeds etc..
They're at a lower standard than SL fact!
That said they've had or have a number of players who would be handy additions to most SL teams.
Sorry, just an oversight regard McCormack
I like McCormack, he's still relatively young and has lots of experience. He seems well liked by his players and has done well with some big characters in his capacity as Scotland Coach. His record at Club level is mainly in the lower Leagues with the exception being Salford where he struggled but who hasn't.
Maybe SL and Salford were too much too early for him but he's never been offered anything at that level since?
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Regards Northern Pride, you might be correct but would they be capable of beating Wigan, Sts, Warrington, Leeds etc..
They're at a lower standard than SL fact!
That said they've had or have a number of players who would be handy additions to most SL teams.
Sorry, just an oversight regard McCormack
I like McCormack, he's still relatively young and has lots of experience. He seems well liked by his players and has done well with some big characters in his capacity as Scotland Coach. His record at Club level is mainly in the lower Leagues with the exception being Salford where he struggled but who hasn't.
Maybe SL and Salford were too much too early for him but he's never been offered anything at that level since?
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| If we are looking at someone in aus could it be one of the following?
Justin Morgan
Ian millward
Mick potter
Batten down the hatches
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| What about Daniel Anderson
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| could one of the applicants possibly be a current number two at another SL club?
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We could have done with him at FB, never mind as part of the coaching staff !
Although Richard Owen looked very good on Sunday
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We could have done with him at FB, never mind as part of the coaching staff !
Although Richard Owen looked very good on Sunday
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Regards Northern Pride, you might be correct but would they be capable of beating Wigan, Sts, Warrington, Leeds etc..They're at a lower standard than SL fact!..'"
I didn't say Northern Pride would be a top Super League Team or compete with Wigan, Sts, Warrington, Leeds etc over the course of a season.
Trinity are at present are a Super League team and Northern Pride may well beat Trinity should they play each other with their current squads. JD is coaching at a comparable standard to Trinity's with players of similar ability and so may be a compelling candidate..
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Based on his previous record at Wakefield, he totally ignored the Youth structure, in fact, he raided it of every resource other than players and left it years behind that of other SL clubs.
Not much long term succession planning going on there!'"
Although it falls under the umbrella of the Head Coach to bring the youngsters through, clubs like ours (perennial strugglers) will always be fighting for survival.
The Head Coach at Leeds, Wigan, Saints etc have the luxury of knowing that they will be competing in the top half of the comp whereas clubs like ours have to work on survival first and foremost and then see what's left.
It's not how it should be done but the necessity of staying in SL especially with ground issues etc. trumps all other requirements.
Licensing did take the pressure off this and we started to see some benefit with the likes of Walshaw and others coming through but, we then have to be able to compete to hold on to these players and inevitably most clubs have better spending power than Wakefield.
The return of promotion and relegation will see a return of the journeyman player merry-go-round and whilst there should be reward for the top club in the championship, the new system is not the answer (although as a Wakefield fan, I am pleased that we still have some chance of escaping the drop !).
Back to which coach we need, Kear would be my choice. So many of the others have massive amounts of risk attached to them.
Of course, there is no guarantee with Kear but he does have the right character and ability to keep us up (we hope)
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| I'd agree Kear is the safest least controversial option.
Need a new conditioner though. As an additional thought on fitness of players as well remember Hickey Kear signed?
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| Quote ="asmadasa"I'd agree Kear is the safest least controversial option.
Need a new conditioner though. As an additional thought on fitness of players as well remember Hickey Kear signed?'"
and Charlie Leano
In fairness, we spent less than sod all on players that season.
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| Quote ="Willzay"could one of the applicants possibly be a current number two at another SL club?'"
Richard Agar?
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| There's some good number 2s around, especially in Australia where some clubs have 2 Assistants.
Many coaches will see this as a perfect opportunity to put themselves in the shop window.
I think we will have some quality options to choose from.
I wonder if Nathan Brown, Daniel Anderson or Steve Price have applied?
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| Quote ="Liversedge Wildcat"Steve Macnamara'"
No thanks.
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| On Boots N All Phil Clarke kept mentioning David Furner - ex Canberra coach.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"On Boots N All Phil Clarke kept mentioning David Furner - ex Canberra coach.'"
In respect of coming us or coming to SL in general?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"On Boots N All Phil Clarke kept mentioning David Furner - ex Canberra coach.'"
Is he the ex-Wigan player who ended up at Leeds?
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| I thought Cas did the dirty on Dave Woods as I thought he did a great job getting us back up to SL.
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| Some interesting names emerging, the attraction of waking this sleeping giant doesn't seem to be putting people off if what we're hearing is right. There's certainly plenty of experience in top level coaching and a few ex players fancying it too. Gonna be an interesting week next week.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Is he the ex-Wigan player who ended up at Leeds?'"
Yes - the same. Clarky kept mentioning him when talking to Eddie about Wakey getting a new coach.
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| His record at canberra is up there with JW's for us.
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| Probably just touting his mate for a job
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