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| Quote ="vastman"Are you a spin doctor, how you have twisted that to back up the stupid post you placed yesterday is beyond me - but hey credit for trying.'"
Read the posts on here, all of them and see if am wrong, twisted it back, god the stuff thats been said on this thred and is still open, make your own mind up, and you will
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Total tosh "better the devil you know" the club was a dieing & lieing embarrasment and on a one way ticket out of SL and possibly out of existance before the trigger was pulled and well you know.
[i[uFate may well have saved us in th of Crusaders troubles [/u[/iand you only have to look at what has happened around Sl to relaise we are not alone in any financial problems.
As supporters we have a voice, otherwise what point the ST and the various supporters groups we had in the past (some of which you were involved in (I think??)) are they/were they pointless??
We all have views and if we can get the club to buy in thats good, of course its a privately owned consern but supporters are allowed to have an opinion.
If we are ignored we drift away, thats what happened before and that hastens the owner and the clubs demise, surely an active support is a good thing for any sensible owner.'"
And unfortunately that's the problem with open speech, if you cast your mind back to Franchise day two years since it was readily accepted that if Crusaders went pop we were the team for the drop, we were in the mire but at the time there was Cas, London etc all in the very same boat, unfortunately due to Facebook, Twitter etc the talk was all Wakefield, conjecture turned into fact and it was a given that the team to drop would be us!
The same could be said about spurious claims (or not!) of financial demise, once social media, Sky sports buffoons, Nosey Parker and Danny Lockwood get there claws into a rumour there's only negative publicity coming next!
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| Quote ="JINJER"And unfortunately that's the problem with open speech, if you cast your mind back to Franchise day two years since it was readily accepted that if Crusaders went pop we were the team for the drop, we were in the mire but at the time there was Cas, London etc all in the very same boat, unfortunately due to Facebook, Twitter etc the talk was all Wakefield, conjecture turned into fact and it was a given that the team to drop would be us!
The same could be said about spurious claims (or not!) of financial demise, once social media, Sky sports buffoons, Nosey Parker and Danny Lockwood get there claws into a rumour there's only negative publicity coming next!'"
IMO the reason we were favourites for the chop was because we were the favoured candidates with RFL and they wanted it that way, the media just compounded that theory. No amount of facebook/twitter or pub gossip had any affect.
The RFL had our heads on the block and if we are being totally honest as bad as other clubs were at that time we were worse. Our only saving grace was that we had a new owner who was trying to make a go of it and had started writing the wrongs of the past.
Had we have not had that change i think it would have been a fair execution, fate had other ideas.
I would say that on reflection that has been a good thing, because by and large things are far rosier than they were, but we like a few others are always going to struggle financialy (until we can make significant enough a stride forward) - weather that is the nature of those/us clubs or the nature of the game is a matter worth its own thread.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"What i said yesterday is not half as bad at whats been posted on this thred, i got blasted for saying i have and could, no more will i post about what i hear regarding the club'"
What you put yesterday was disgraceful you don't have the club at heart posting that. If it is true you cannot put it in the public domain first. Bang out of order if I was you I would trot along and don't argue the fact, as you quite clearly were in the wrong !
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| IF its true why can't he?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"What you put yesterday was disgraceful you don't have the club at heart posting that. If it is true you cannot put it in the public domain first. Bang out of order if I was you I would trot along and don't argue the fact, as you quite clearly were in the wrong !'"
Like i have said, read all the post on AG twitter, some people on here have said a lot worse, club at heart, you have no idea, i have done on here, you have not got a clue what i know, some on here do know me and will say i do know what is going on. Has for you, well just ask anyone on here about your post, clearly in the wrong, i hope so
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| Quote ="kinleycat"IF its true why can't he?'"
Can't work out myself why he can't.
I would question baz not having the club at heart, he does.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"IF its true why can't he?'"
IF its incorrect it can be very detrimental to the club.
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| Think I'll go back and read, the hopefully positive, Newmarket news again.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"IF its incorrect it can be very detrimental to the club.'"
Thats not what he said.
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| You don't crap where you eat if you ask me. Would have been better not posting it.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Thats not what he said.'"
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| If it is true there isn't an issue but of course the IF is the problem.
If you don't know for sure you are risking being the cause of a disaster rather than reporting it.
However, it is clearly just a mistake on Bazzo's part. It's not like he is trying to take the club down.
The people accusing him of not having the club at heart are simply jumping on a band wagon with no real insight into his motives. Think that needs to be let go before we go all Lond of the Flies here.
Ye who is without sin......as the big man said.
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| IF (I'll repeat that IF) we do go into admin, how many will be back with an apology?
I'm not justifying anyones actions here, i would advocate that people have the right to free speech where appropriate, i dont think the Op of the locked thread has broken any laws etc
The argument that posting such comments could be viewed as harmful to the club is valid, but so could (if true) some of the many other rumours that hit these boards, as could the clubs perceived practises of runnining up ccj's.
The day we cant ask questions if we have a ligitimate concern is the day we might as well all pack up!!!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"You've lost me??
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| Quote ="Wildthing"You've lost me??
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Sorry i thought you were correcting my post, obviously if its incorrect it is harmful.
Persoanlly i don't think Bazzo would post anything malicious based on his previous posts.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"IF (I'll repeat that IF) we do go into admin, how many will be back with an apology?
I'm not justifying anyones actions here, i would advocate that people have the right to free speech where appropriate, i dont think the Op of the locked thread has broken any laws etc
The argument that posting such comments could be viewed as harmful to the club is valid, but so could (if true) some of the many other rumours that hit these boards, as could the clubs perceived practises of runnining up ccj's.
The day we cant ask questions if we have a ligitimate concern is the day we might as well all pack up!!!'"
Indeed, despite the general blasé responses from the club the Winding up order and the numerous CCJ’s now marked against Trinity will do far more damage then title tattle on a forum.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Sorry i thought you were correcting my post, obviously if its incorrect it is harmful.
Persoanlly i don't think Bazzo would post anything malicious based on his previous posts.'"
I'm with you now.
Malicious no, silly yes.
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| Well as an outsider and despite the apparent acrimony around Monday night's game I sincerely hope all of this talk is nothing more than that. We really need teams that are sustainable (or as near to that as possible) and we certainly need teams with tradition. Lets all hope that this is just smoke and there's no fire. Good luck for the rest of the season.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Well as an outsider and despite the apparent acrimony around Monday night's game I sincerely hope all of this talk is nothing more than that. We really need teams that are sustainable (or as near to that as possible) and we certainly need teams with tradition. Lets all hope that this is just smoke and there's no fire. Good luck for the rest of the season.'"
Thnak you. Same goes.
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| I don't see the banter as acrimony mate, just post match banter! Thanks for your support though.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Well as an outsider and despite the apparent acrimony around Monday night's game I sincerely hope all of this talk is nothing more than that. We really need teams that are sustainable (or as near to that as possible) and we certainly need teams with tradition. Lets all hope that this is just smoke and there's no fire. Good luck for the rest of the season.'"
Yeah cheers.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Total tosh "better the devil you know" the club was a dieing & lieing embarrasment and on a one way ticket out of SL and possibly out of existance before the trigger was pulled and well you know.
Fate may well have saved us in the guise of Crusaders troubles and you only have to look at what has happened around Sl to relaise we are not alone in any financial problems.
As supporters we have a voice, otherwise what point the ST and the various supporters groups we had in the past (some of which you were involved in (I think??)) are they/were they pointless??
We all have views and if we can get the club to buy in thats good, of course its a privately owned consern but supporters are allowed to have an opinion.
If we are ignored we drift away, thats what happened before and that hastens the owner and the clubs demise, surely an active support is a good thing for any sensible owner.'"
You never learn do you. You've been wrong all along and you still are, you're doing more back flip than a Chinese acrobat as you try to recreate the real world to match your personal utopia.
Just accept that there is a very very slight chance that you are wrong and someone else may just know more than you. I know it's hard but it's a lot easier than trying to re justify your position on a weekly basis.
Have to say as I recall how utterly pro AG you were when he arrived that with friends like you he sure can't afford any enemies.
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| Quote ="vastman"You never learn do you. You've been wrong all along and you still are, you're doing more back flip than a Chinese acrobat as you try to recreate the real world to match your personal utopia.
Just accept that there is a very very slight chance that you are wrong and someone else may just know more than you. I know it's hard but it's a lot easier than trying to re justify your position on a weekly basis.
Have to say as I recall how utterly pro AG you were when he arrived that with friends like you he sure can't afford any enemies.
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This is absolutely it in a nutshell and something you just cant see, I'm nobody's friend when it comes to administration of the club is concerned nor should anyone be, I'm all for the guy doing whats best for the club, there is no loyalty to any man - just the club.
Something you didn't see when you were cosying up with ted and something you still can't see now.
When you can come back with something to back up your claims other than empty words feel free to.
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry to burst your bubble but you wanted a new cutting edge business style corporate Trinity and that's what you've got - better the devil you know sometimes
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I'd like that to be true, but it's still a case of jobs for friends and family. Same as it ever was!
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