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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Just watched the replay and not one word of what you said about the Farrell incident is true.'"
How did you watch the replay?
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| Well I watched it too and Farrell clearly does punch him.
It's a pretty pansy punch but he does hit him. He squares up with a cocked first too.
Poore reaction was probably over the top but you shouldn't be treated worse just because he is abetter puncher.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"How did you watch the replay?'"
This magical thing called T.V mate.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well I watched it too and Farrell clearly does punch him.
It's a pretty pansy punch but he does hit him. He squares up with a cocked first too.
Poore reaction was probably over the top but you shouldn't be treated worse just because he is abetter puncher.'"
Totally agree, punching is punching, you can't penalise a player more severely based on the results of the punch.
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"Just watched the replay and not one word of what you said about the Farrell incident is true.'"
Must be made out of marshmallow in Wigan,rest wrapped in cotton wool bunch of girls. If you give it you've got to take it.
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Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?
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Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?
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| The elbow occurred in the tackle, which isn't shown. Farrell's "punch" isn't as bad as what I thought it was but still he does raise a fist and make contact with Poore. Bet he won't be messing around with Poore in the return fixture!
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| Farrell went to push Poore away after Poore went after him, it looks like to me. Daft reaction, but I presume something happened in the tackle which started it, because Poore was going for him as soon as he was on his feet.
If a prop is going to be an enforcer and cop a ban, at least hit someone we don't like (Bailey, Tomkins, etc).
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| Quote ="4foxsake"The elbow occurred in the tackle, which isn't shown. Farrell's "punch" isn't as bad as what I thought it was but still he does raise a fist and make contact with Poore. Bet he won't be messing around with Poore in the return fixture!'"
I think plenty will mess with Poore, he looks like something of a loose cannon. The beneficiaries were Wigan, and let's not forget Laim Farrell, who was announced as Man of the Match on the Tannoy.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?'"
He hardly connected with anything. Certainly not worthy of retaliating with a punch anyway. If Poore is going to get riled up by a little shove in the face, then he's probably going to get sent off in the majority of the matches he plays.
Fwiw, he did 2 runs in the game. The first run I commented at the time on his raised forearm as he took the ball in. He did the same in the tackle previous to his sending off, and something must've been said on the floor.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Sorry my friend, but Farrell clearly thrusts towards Poore's face with his hand/fist, what Poore did let his team mates down, but was understandable in the circumstances.
If he didn't "give" him anything, please explain the thrusting arm. What was the purpose of if?'"
He thrusts 'towards' Poore with his hand but that's very different to a punch. It's just a bit of a push with a handful of shirt. It's not really an aggressive motion which is why Poore got the straight red. Good punch though.
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| I'd rather see our players standing up for themselves, rather than letting people push them around! Oh and just to point out your 26 also went in throwing punches.....
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"He hardly connected with anything. Certainly not worthy of retaliating with a punch anyway. If Poore is going to get riled up by a little shove in the face, then he's probably going to get sent off in the majority of the matches he plays.
Fwiw, he did 2 runs in the game. The first run I commented at the time on his raised forearm as he took the ball in. He did the same in the tackle previous to his sending off, and something must've been said on the floor.'"
You're right he didn't connect, but there's no guarantee that hs wouldn't follow it up with one that might is there in the heat of battle etc. These things take fractions of seconds, and there's no prize for standing there and taking a risk that the second one either won't come, or be a pathetic as the first.
I bet the Australian national side a bricking themselves now they've seen how tough guy Farrell hit the deck. He looks like he couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding.
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| Just to follow up. I have no issue if Poore gets a ban for this, personally I think having seen it again he's in a no win situation, he's struck first and wasn't hanging around for the second. However just because his shot was clean and quick shouldn't mean that he gets treated more harshly than Farrell and Crosby.
I remember Dallas Hood getting done for his part in a big brawl at Belle Vue. He was guilty but no more guilty than about 12 other players, but he was particularly effective during the scrap. Intent is intent.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"You're right he didn't connect, but there's no guarantee that hs wouldn't follow it up with one that might is there in the heat of battle etc. These things take fractions of seconds, and there's no prize for standing there and taking a risk that the second one either won't come, or be a pathetic as the first.
I bet the Australian national side a bricking themselves now they've seen how tough guy Farrell hit the deck. He looks like he couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding.'"
Except he wasn't even punched in the first place, and the guy he was squaring up to is smaller than most outside backs.
And to be honest, unless we're taking on the Aussies in a fight, I wouldn't worry too much about how well he can take a punch. He's quite good at playing rugby if you hadn't noticed.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Just to follow up. I have no issue if Poore gets a ban for this, personally I think having seen it again he's in a no win situation, he's struck first and wasn't hanging around for the second. However just because his shot was clean and quick shouldn't mean that he gets treated more harshly than Farrell and Crosby.
I remember Dallas Hood getting done for his part in a big brawl at Belle Vue. He was guilty but no more guilty than about 12 other players, but he was particularly effective during the scrap. Intent is intent.'"
Exactly, he is provoked and then pushed - he was left no option but to establish bruise control. As you say, no issue if he gets a ban, but needs to reign in his temper or he will get targeted more and more.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Except he wasn't even punched in the first place, and the guy he was squaring up to is smaller than most outside backs.'"
I didn't realise that players were supposed to consult a height/weight chart before deciding whether to respond when under a physical attack. You clearly did not have the pleasure of seeing the diminutive Billy Conway in action, I know that Andy Dannett at the Boulevard didn't see him either.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"And to be honest, unless we're taking on the Aussies in a fight, I wouldn't worry too much about how well he can take a punch. He's quite good at playing rugby if you hadn't noticed.
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You're kidding right? Physical intimidation and threat is a massive part of the game, Justin Poore could've used a waft from his mum's pinny and cleaned him out.
I'm not a fan of what Poore did, I don't think rugby league us about that. However there has to be a threat there, Farrell has none, and much as my instinct is to admonish Poore for letting his side down I think his actions were 100% understandable.
As for Crosby, he got stuck in and threw punches at people on the floor. That's cowardice in my book.
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| Apart from the right and wrongs of the Poore/Farrell issue.
Wakefield were a shambles until Poore was sent off. Following that every Wakefield player upped his game. They were never going to win as Wigan scored by going wide all match, as they did when Trin had 13 out there.
Nine tries to four was a fair reflection I thought but Wakefield scored some good tries.
It was a scrappy game and a decisions lottery with Mr Hicks in charge.
Wigan's missed conversions kept the score below 50 which was fair enough.
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| If you hold play on your Sky remote it goes into slow motion. Farrell gives Poore a face rub as part of the tackle, then a knee towards the head/shoulder followed by marking his ground by putting his foot forward aggressively. That is then followed up by the attempt to strike Poore, then summary justice is served up.
No win situation for Poore, but better to just take it rather than let your team mates down this week, and no doubt in subsequent weeks. Wilkes is not in good form, Raleigh is on his way back from a fair layoff and isn't there yet, so even more reason for Poore to control himself better.
The Mellars hit looks worse than it was, it's a shoulder contact on a player that could quite easily have got the ball and probably would have had Mellars not been pressuring. I don't expect any further action on that one.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Apart from the right and wrongs of the Poore/Farrell issue.
Wakefield were a shambles until Poore was sent off. Following that every Wakefield player upped his game. They were never going to win as Wigan scored by going wide all match, as they did when Trin had 13 out there.
Nine tries to four was a fair reflection I thought but Wakefield scored some good tries.
It was a scrappy game and a decisions lottery with Mr Hicks in charge.
Wigan's missed conversions kept the score below 50 which was fair enough.'"
Fair comment I'd say. Wigan had to be off their game and Wakey on their best form. Tomkins was brilliant.
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| Farrell was trying to be niggly and aggressive on the floor, unfortunately for him he messed with the wrong bloke. Absolutely lovely knockout punch, pity thats a red card these days imo.
There was no need for Farrell to be that aggressive on the floor, pulling, putting extra weight on etc.. opefully he learns from it.
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| RFL disciplinary will decide that Poore had some dirt on his shirt and Farrel clearly tried to brush it off, at this point Poore punches him for no reason.
Followed by Crosby having a nervous twitch in his right arm while trying to help Poore back to his feet.
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| It's a pity he will get a ban but in a team that needs a tough rough front rower I'm happy for Pooreto keep playing the same way.
One day someone ewill try to take Smith out late.Hull tried a few. We need to know someone will protect him.
The others need to get in a cool him down when it's not needed.
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