We'll end up with full quota and then a few that are off quota, no wonder RL is up the spout in this country.

No doubt steading the ship will be a good enough excuse for helping to destroy RL.

As it stands, John, Smith, Morrison or Southern, Collis or Mellars and Lauititti would be more than enough to compliment the squad with the mix of British/French players here also. The additional Tony, the other two either/or’s and potentially Obst will just be taking the space up of home recruits whilst not offering massively more on the pitch.

Exactly, and the sad thing is we had a chance to get away from this sort of signing at the early part of next year. It should have been a watershead. This wonder with imports and packing them in has to change, we need a whole culture change and the first stage is to stop bringing over journeymen, crocks, has beens and never will be's.

And before anybody starts, I don't care if Rangi Chase plays for England, I don't care if Hull KR do it, I'm not bothered that England RU and Cricket bend the rules - this is my club and my game and I think its wrong.

Is our season going to be much worse if we had Mathers instead of Tony or Tongia? Would we finish much lower down the league if we had Moore in the halfs instead of john or smith? We've got rid of some poor imports in hicky, Hendo, Korki and Smith (hopefully Semi too) and we replace them, most likely, more of the same.

Its lazy and I am sick of us taking the easy option, if Obst comes back (as good as he was for us) it speaks volumes about us and our contribution to the game. 6 months ago the board was flooded with posters crowing about how good the local league set up is, how its a hot bed of RL round here and how Wakefield have produced huge amounts of players and how much of a travesty it would have been if Crusaders had been given the gig instead of us.

We had the excuse of no dosh and relegation hanging over us when Ted was in charge, so the young 'uns went elsewhere. I wonder what Glover and Agar's excuse is?

Shame, cos we appear to be making decent strides in plenty of other areas.

I agree with the majority of your post, but I suppose the Chase example is pertinent; if the people running the game at the very top level are prepared to cynically exploit the loopholes that currently exist to crowbar a player like Chase into the national side, it's hardly a surprise that SL clubs will do the same thing. Last season, we even had the unedifying spectacle of the RFL colluding with HKR to cheat Willy Mason into their squad - a pretty low point for RL.

Either way it needs sorting, for all the reasons you've highlighted.

^^^ sums it up really well ^^^

Not at all bud,just as fans on these rlfans forums don`t represent the majority either.

Very true. Which is why I didnt state the word 'majority' anywhere in my post.

Good lad,


Just as an aside I am sorry to see Obst leave us.

I personally don't want him back.

Really?,I thought he was a grafter,and personaly I thought he did a job for us.
Is it because he left,or you don`t rate him?

i'd have him back under normal circumstances personally as i thought he was one of our most consistent performers but the problem is there does not seem to be place for him in the current squad given our recent recruits and the younger players we have in the half/hooker positions.

I personally wasnt happy he left in the first place and also I think he's past his best. He was a good player for us
but I'd like to think we have moved on now.

A position he found himself in ironicly at Hull.

Fair enough mate,I am sure he will give 100% wherever he ends up.

i heard that he's applied for residency and a british passport which means he'll be none quota. Just waiting for the paperwork to come through and signing for wakey in next couple of weeks contract agreed awaiting the residency to complete the deal

I was under the impression he came over here with no secured contract and the chance to win one. I've scoured our official website for info about him and any offer of a contract and come up with a blank.

I'm not claiming you're wrong, but where does it say that Tongia is our player for next year?

Doesn't say it anywhere rr, I've also heard he signed a year deal before ra came but ra not too impressed by this. Seems to be plenty of smoke re this but at the moment no fire

Why can’t the guy just roll with it and give them a chance. The club has signed these players for a reason and Agar knew this when he decided to come. Agar should consider himself lucky to have a new 3 year SL coaching contract, I would take a guess that no other SL club would of offered him such a contract. First Howarth goes now he wants to off load Tongia and Moore, does he have a problem with young players that have shown potential? I’m trying to keep the faith and give him the full benefit of the doubt but I’m already finding myself questioning his decisions!

to br fair Mr Agars record with young players is bloody lousy

dont like these loop holes on overseas players its high time the RL/SL put a stop to them

Look on the brightside though Al once these overseas players have been over here for a few years we can stick them in the England team, happy days.

We will have an England team full of hybrid players, just the ticket

This was one of the criticisms we Hull fans had.For some reason he seemed to have a mental block as far as giving our youngsters a chance.Maybe he will be different at Wakey.

Not a chance mate......

Look what's just happened - www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1ni37.html I wonder if he will get a visa? Didn't Mick Crocker get a visa rejected for a drink drive conviction? If so, I bet Hull wish they'd kept hold of Sam

Look what's just happened - www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 1ni37.html I wonder if he will get a visa? Didn't Mick Crocker get a visa rejected for a drink drive conviction? If so, I bet Hull wish they'd kept hold of Sam