This was my point in my rather long-winded thread I posted earlier.

From a fans point of view, it's hard to reconcile. Yes, we hear all the injury stuff but when we see that performance yesterday we just wonder where the hell its been hiding.

When you're capable of being that good why wouldn't you attempt to be so all the time? Yeah, you won't win them all but as you say we'd be nearer 30 points now than 20 even with the injury crisis. Odd.

I don't think Pinkney is correct but equally I don't think anyone is saying we are suddenly world beaters.

I'd say the change, with the injuries we still have make so that we should be aiming to be above Leeds.
We can't get higher but mid table obscurity, not being involved in the 5 or the relegation battle is perfectly fine right now.

When we get Tom, Fifita, Ashurst and Arona back with a couple of other possible changes I'll be hoping for the 5 and a challenge cup run again.

Because life doesn't work like that. You can't be on top of your game every day.
For me that performance would have beaten Leeds and the effort against Hull was comparable but Hull were better than Hull KR. Wigan and Sts would still have beaten us yesterday imho but it would have been a good match.

I don't understand when people equate score line to effort. It's not the only thing that's going on.

Great assessment PT that’s just how I saw it too

I thought things we’re fairly even in the first half
Probably down to Garbutt who was excellent but we worked incredibly hard to stop him

Brough showed some confidence on the right edge a few times too when he semi took the line on which was great to see, him and Reece should be a great attacking threat together

I’d give a special mention to danny kirmomd
I’ve never seen a player look more physically drained after a match
If you cut danny open it would be red white n blue, it’s guts me my little boy won’t be old enough to remember seeing his the effort he puts in

At its simplest level
Our forwards went forward successfully and it gave the back room to work

Also agree re your comments that win had being coming for a couple of weeks now

Extremely pleased to eat a big slice of humble pie yesterday. I was one of the individuals that just could not see the type of performance based on watching us every game for the last 10 weeks. Good to see us put a good team performance in and really grind them down, down the middle and kill them with field position, thought the kicking game and game management for both halfbacks was great yesterday and then of course we eventually ran away with the game which was good to see and good for the old points difference.

Looking at the table, London, Hull KR and Hudds all need to win 2 games out of 3 and for us to not pick up any more points for us to be in threat of relegation, unless of course we get absolutely trounced by Wigan and Wire. I fancy us to pick up a win against Wire or Wigan.

I know it doesn't work like that, that's what makes it odd. I did clearly state that you can't win them all! I'm not trying to explain it as I don't know the ins and outs but it's still frustrating from fans and I assume coaches points of view.

We were never going to be great this season with the injuries, but did we really need to dip so low?

Look how much Warrington have dipped without Austin. It makes a big difference.
Hull had a similar issue to us over past couple of years where injuries took them close to relegation zone.
Both teams have money to just buy another top player.
The difference this tear is the bottom clubs have found wins that wouldn't normally be found.

Saying that Cas have handled Gale missing exceptionally well.

It certainly does - based on their performance this weekend, that's where I'd be looking for the 2 points we need to put this relegation business to bed.

Wigan have done a great job of going back to basics and despite their attack still misfiring, they've shored up their defence and are playing hard and direct, like a Wane team; and London have the hoodoo over us and will be coming to BV full of vim and vigour. But Wire are all over the place - and will be coming off an absolute starching by Saints in the CC Final.

Nothing is a certainty obviously, but I'd like to think we can give them a good go.

All games are a mix of how your own team plays and how well the opposition play. By all accounts, Hull KR were woeful. We weren't. Had we been woeful too, we might have let KR back into it. Had KR played well it would have been a tight and close game. It's always a mix of the two, and it is not slating the winners to say that the losers were poor. KR had a bad day and we were good enough to exploit it. And in a fortnight, no matter how well we play, we'll be wanting Wigan to have an off day.

I don't think many will argue against that 17 being unchanged for the next game.

Will Escare be allowed to play against Wigan ?

Yes.

If they can put another performance together like yesterday, then absolutely, but did Bill pick up a knock towards the end, as he was substituted ??

Well played,how you are in such a position is beyond me,good luck and hope we will be playing you next season,from a disappointed kr fan.

I think a large amount of wakey fans have the same sentiment . hopefully it Shudds that drop

Having watched the game back now i thought we did a lot of the basics right during the game, Good go forward quicker defence structure and escare been the little diamond in the middle, And i also thought KR wasn't as bad has their fans are making out yes a couple of silly errors passing across the line but all in all they came across a determined Wakey side which didn't give them any space.


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I fins it difficult to wish that on anyone - a lot of people are going to lose their livelihood, which is a tough thing to take any pleasure in.

I've now watched the game and I thought it was a tale of two halves, cliche I know.

I actually thought we were poor in the first half and Escare had a mare mixed with a few good bits, under the high ball he is light years behind Jowitt and Hampshire. However not wanting to single him out the rest were not much better, same old issues for us, certainly in attack though the defence was no too bad. However as we failed to against Hull last week, HKR failed to capitalise on our mistakes and the possession and territory that went with them.

Second half we suddenly remembered we were a RL team of some quality and it showed. Very few mistakes in either defence or attack. We were direct, we supported the man with the ball but above all, we took every chance offered.

Massive improvement, but if we are to beat any of the remaining three teams we are yet to face we will need to play as we did in the second half for most if not all of the 80 minutes. It was a great effort, in fact, it was a massive effort and I applaud it, but we are still some way off our best, just my opinion.

The thing you don't get from TV is how strong the wind was.
We won it in that first half.
There was always going to be a difficulty with high ball but we managed and took it forward to the second half.

he made two breaks with no end product glad it didn’t cost us the game rocky outside with a run in and rocky outside and wood inside no pass again.

Same - and I can't help but factor in nerves as at least part of the reason for both teams poor performance in the first half; obviously we got past it and blew them away in the second, but the magnitude of that game and level of expectation can't have been lost on the players?

I think you are right, nerves played a big part in that first half for both teams, but I don`t think Hull KR ever shook those nerves off, they were just forcing play way too much throughout which led to a lot of errors which when you are coming up against a 92% completion rate is not giving yourself much of a chance at all.

One other thing I did pick up on, our players looked a lot more desperate when an opening come up and not in a bad way, Miller springs to mind in that first half, how he literally threw his body at the defence to get over the line - That is the Miller of old, which we haven't seen much of this season but was refreshing to see that.

I wasn't actually mentioning Escare but I was frustrated by that too.
However, the good thing was he didn't lose the ball by throwung a pass he wasn't capable of and put us in a great field position.
It was the same result as Brough kicking a 40-20 so although it was a lost opportunity, it wasn't a disaster.

Yes I agree about the desperation part.
We had 3-4 guys barking constantly. When Rovers were behind their post, no one was talking.

And they spent a lot of time behind their posts



I agree that we were too impatient, trying to score off too many plays, instead of consolidating field position and building pressure.
It all worked out in the end and we have some confidence to take forward into our remaining games.

Although it was "only" Rovers, I thought that our defensive effort was brilliant and that is THE big positive to take from the win, especially conceding 0 in the second half.