Interesting to hear you saythis El Rey. I have noted a few things that, in spite of my overall +ve feelings, have made me raise an eyebrow. Drinks stand blocking 3/4 of the walkway behind east stand, cock up on my tickets once, mistake on the folks we sit next to season ticket prices, me being rung 3 x to renew my gold membership when I already have, the cas game fiasco and ensuing trouble. Some +ve things like fetching my hospice shirt down from the ridngs for the Leeds game without being asked cos they noticed Id bought a ticket for my daughter and Id called to say I couldnt get to the ridings cos of where I live...and the marketing strategy seems to be working...but this...blimey. I'm gonna say no more and just sit back and watch now, but I am worried to be honest, and I don't think it makes you any less of a fan to ask perfectly reasonable questions and put the club to scrutiny. We have been let down too many times to be taken for a ride again.

And me

The stock is almost non existent and vastly worse than under th previous regime. Maybe they had too many lines they couldnt sell by the samt token but this side of things is average at best

Cant see anything other than an oversight by the club and one thing alone makes me think so thats the signing of Mathers.Cas are finding times hard and would want the money from his transfer asap to help things for them.If we did not have that money to pay them the deal would have been dead in the water.

don't think we are paying a transfer fee for him, unless you know something I don't

On a similar note, I received my invoice for my season ticket yesterday via email, and it said 'Amount: £125.00 (Includes VAT of £0.00) shouldn't we pay VAT on season tickets?

i think they should have VAT on them

VAT on season tickets, not on memberships as I seem to recall.
I am a gold member.

How can they get away with that?!? Is it common with all clubs?

Oh dear we really are nit picking now. I'm worried too but what next soap dispenser run out of soap. This club is work in progress all down there will admit that.

Bit dramatic that wasn't it Jason?

All I asked was a simple question keeping on topic with the HMRC issue.

This was rumoured to have been contributing part of the downfall of Bradford. Hopefully its all above board.

It's amazing how this situation has led some WTW supporters to the point of attempting to dob the club in for tax evasion!

I'm pretty certain that membership fees are zero rated for VAT, hence VAT is shown on your invoice, but at a rate of £0.00.

All perfectly above board I'm afraid, so those of you peddling prophecies of doom will need to look elsewhere.

God we are all jumpy lol, least rumour or slight mistake and the whole world is going to collapse, there are thousands of people that have had no problems what so ever With the club or season tickets or any other thing or even scare mongering, why is it 1% of people hear a bad rumours and take it for gospel, then spread it like a washer women with out facts, stop being so naive people if you a have facts name names or show the links to stories, until then stop moaning and back the club, we have nearly hit 4,000 gold members in the first stage of promotion, lets not stop there lets get 5,000 put our efforts into that, as for stock there will be new stock in store soon

Bloody hell, some right defensive pansies on here!

Why does asking a simple question relating to the thread topic suddenly brand me as 'peddling prophecies of doom' and 'attempting to dob the club in for tax evasion' Get a grip Bren!

A lot of things in life is based on confidence. Business more so. Rightly or wrongly winding up petitions/orders damage people's confidence in a business. Seeds of doubt have been planted by last weeks news, and with this clubs history that is understandable. Hopefully the club can put it behind them and regain the confidence some supporters have lost in it.

I'm with those who give the club a pass on this one, it's been a baptism of fire right from the very beggining when a skeleton staff took over, in at the deep end with vertical learning curve.

By and large what's been achieved in 20 months is admirable and I'm only surprised that bigger mistakes haven't been made along the way so credit to the staff and those running the club. If we've sorted this and plugged the gap that caused it then I for one am happy with that. I understand the anxiety, I felt it myself, but if it's an isolated incident as explained then we should put it behind us and move on.

Other clubs might not suffer hiccups like this but that's because they've got established systems and personnel in place and probably aren't suffering the same scrutiny from HMRC that Wakefield Trinity are, like it or not we've been in administration twice in 10 years and HMRC have a long unforgiving memory.

My only concern as I stated earlier in the thread was the management of the news itself, IMO it could have been done better and that might have helped avoid the ongoing speculation that's followed.

I think this issue has overshadowed the original point. The cover up, closing of ranks and "we can't reveal" stance has caused the situation to drag on and even escalate.

This is not the old club it is a new club a new owner, It is a blip a mistake the club (new one) as put it behind them and so as the majority of the fans, just the odd few that feed on doom and gloom that can not let go of the past, put it behind you move on go on just give it a try...

Currently under investigation by Big Alf and co on the Cas Forum. How desperate can you get

I think that this issue is down to incompetence and certain individuals at the Club being "out of their depth". Nobody has done this on purpose, somebody has just dropped a monumental testicle due to being incompetent in their role and in the application of their responsibilities. I believe that the hearts of the people involved in the management of the Club, are in the right place and always will be, however, the facts speak for themselves.

If this would have happened in any other form of business, someone would be dismissed or asked to resign. Andrew Glover is far from being a mug, what he has done is leave the day to day running of a business, in the hands of someone out of their depth. He has trusted certain individuals with being competent in their roles, when obviously they are not and unfortunately, never will be. The job is too big and the stakes are too high to carry on like this any more, we need an injection of experienced people who know how to run a Club/Business, professionally , from top to bottom.

Did that puddle ever get sorted in the car park

Is it just me that hankers for things being the way they were before the internet? I read somewhere that lives were being handed out at ASDA this week. Maybe we should all go and get one!

are you in the know or have you come to this conclusion just from the fact that there has been an issue with HMRC?

Nah - it would have just been on Ceefax.