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| Quote ="Redscat"Why do you say it's counter intuitive? How do you know it is? Was it Counter intuitive when we brought JK in the first time around when we were in a similar position? The "dynamic" that you mention only appears to be evident for home matches apparently. It would make my day if just once I could log in and read that PT had just added a post stating that, "So and so had a crap game" or "Wasn't the ref rubbish". I would then know that Pop Tart is not a robot
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You need to log in more. I've called plenty of people out. I just don't throw all the toys out of the pram when I do.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You need to log in more. I've called plenty of people out. I just don't throw all the toys out of the pram when I do.'"
I log on every evening, PT. Pity you couldn't answer my questions.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Why do you say it's counter intuitive? How do you know it is?
=#FF0000Intuition is a personal thing. Seems counter to me. Doesn't have to be for you.
Was it Counter intuitive when we brought JK in the first time around when we were in a similar position?
=#FF0000No as we were losing games and on the decline. This time we are winning games and on the rise.
The "dynamic" that you mention only appears to be evident for home matches apparently.
=#FF0000So what? We have 4 home games left. No team is undefeated this year. Its just the way it is.
It would make my day if just once I could log in and read that PT had just added a post stating that, "So and so had a crap game" or "Wasn't the ref rubbish". I would then know that Pop Tart is not a robot
=#FF0000No question here but I have said I wouldn't play Lineham. Explained at length why Hood has a bad game against Leigh and said I'd quite happily ditch Jorge and Atoni.
Clearly 3 of those have turned their form around proving that a bad game or even 15 bad games doesn't mean it will always be the case.
But i dont care if you think I'm a robot. Crack on
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| Quote ="FIL"Out of interest, how long is he contracted for ??'"
I may have missed it because I don’t remember it being mentioned but I would guess just one year.
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I agree entirely that intuition is a personal thing. Please bear that in mind.
"Winning games and on the rise". What? When we win 42-6 one week then lose 42-4 just a week later?
Can't quite see why the fact that "No team is undefeated this " is regarded as "a dynamic".
Never mind. Keep up the good work.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Partially!!!
I agree entirely that intuition is a personal thing. Please bear that in mind.
"Winning games and on the rise". What? When we win 42-6 one week then lose 42-4 just a week later?
Can't quite see why the fact that "No team is undefeated this " is regarded as "a dynamic".
Never mind. Keep up the good work.'"
Unfortunately I can't understand it for you. Only tell you.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Applegarth was not the right man when he was appointed and he still isn't now. Even if he does keep us up he is not the right man for the job.'"
I agree altofts, also we get a few results & lino back in, hull were always gonna snuff out gale which left lino to create, which he's struggled to do in all his games so far when having no direction.But thats a coach who when has plenty of options trys to accomodate all and changes things around.
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| Quote ="TALLYWACKER62"I agree altofts, also we get a few results & lino back in, hull were always gonna snuff out gale which left lino to create, which he's struggled to do in all his games so far when having no direction.But thats a coach who when has plenty of options trys to accomodate all and changes things around.'"
So who plays instead of Lino? Dagger or Kay? Neither of them are creators either.
And he's never going to win if he can't play the same winning team but has to change winning team
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| Well the club obviously saw something in mash long term, why else would you offer him the coaching job. It was a strange appointment when you look at other coaches available at that time.
So who would you go for at this present time,
Both Hudds and Wire thought they had made good solid appointments. But just because a coach has success at one club it doesn't always swap over to another.
I have no idea if Mash is the right fix, but his record ain't great and time is running out.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Well the club obviously saw something in mash long term, why else would you offer him the coaching job. It was a strange appointment when you look at other coaches available at that time.
So who would you go for at this present time,
Both Hudds and Wire thought they had made good solid appointments. But just because a coach has success at one club it doesn't always swap over to another.
I have no idea if Mash is the right fix, but his record ain't great and time is running out.'"
Also shows, a good Academy coach does not always make a good S L coach
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| Quote ="PopTart"So who plays instead of Lino? Dagger or Kay? Neither of them are creators either.'"
I'd go Dagger, I don't unferstand the praise some people give Lino. Three of the four wins were without him in the team, there may be a clue there somewhere...
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| Quote ="18th Man"I'd go Dagger, I don't unferstand the praise some people give Lino. Three of the four wins were without him in the team, there may be a clue there somewhere...'"
That would mean you are not putting Griffin Whitbread or Tanginoa in either.
Saying that I like Dagger a lot. I'd happily play him.
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| Quote ="PopTart"That would mean you are not putting Griffin Whitbread or Tanginoa in either.
Saying that I like Dagger a lot. I'd happily play him.'"
Don’t think it would have mattered who you played at SH against Hull 42-4 was disgusting and unprofessional.
I imagine Lino leaked in about 40 of those points so drop him put Dagger in and all fine - Simples!
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| Quote ="PopTart"That would mean you are not putting Griffin Whitbread or Tanginoa in either.'"
No it wouldn't, I believe they are capable of doing a good job, Lino's still not convinced me.
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| Quote ="PopTart"So who plays instead of Lino? Dagger or Kay? Neither of them are creators either.
And he's never going to win if he can't play the same winning team but has to change winning team'"
Dagger whoes done ok. what i dont get is why everybody loves lino he's average at best,all competative games he's played in he cant create anything, sl coaches are not dumb they put pressure on him (as hull did with gale) to upset his game .Also his defence aint great, he's lowon confidence and he's gonna struggle to find it this season everygames a must win
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| Statistically will go down as the worst coach Wakefield have ever had and the worst in Super League history. Even James Webster got more wins than him.
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| Quote ="18th Man"No it wouldn't, I believe they are capable of doing a good job, Lino's still not convinced me.'"
He has convinced me now... he's simply not good enough! Passes to the floor, dropped balls, missed tackles, too slow. Why does he get picked every week when Dagger is far better and can convert goals too?!
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| Quote ="Willzay"Statistically will go down as the worst coach Wakefield have ever had and the worst in Super League history. Even James Webster got more wins than him.'"
I don’t understand how he is still in a job this morning…..
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| Quote ="asmadasa"I don’t understand how he is still in a job this morning…..'"
The board are rotten and don't care about the future of the club
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| Just wish so called fans would stop going on about Lino, think a lot of you must just use four letter words .After the friendly against Featherstone you could see we were in for a bad season ,we were overloaded with old men so bad and slow in every thing to do with rugby..Applegate as had chance to bring younger players in ,Croft, Kershaw, and a few more .they have gone well ,but the Coach is obsessed with old players and as soon as a old player was fit ,it was young player out,old player in.The spine of the team as been changed so many times by our Coach that Quasimodo as a better spine than we have got This shocking season is not down to one player it is down to a Coach who is a Academy Coach and it shows New Coach came in at Cas who had a good spine to the team and there Coach was good enough to get it to work
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| The biggest weakness is in the centres because the majority of his signings have been forwards. We basically ran with just two experienced centres after swapping one for a full back before adding Croft. The two have both endured injury absences meaning we have been forced into our usual solution of using a forward.
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| We managed to escape relegation last season but no lessons were learnt. Instead of making good signings and strengthening all areas of the squad. We went into this season with an even weaker squad, promoted a young inexperienced coach to manage it. Hey Presto ! here we are. It's far more than this or that player, it's the sum of everything.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"We managed to escape relegation last season but no lessons were learnt. Instead of making good signings and strengthening all areas of the squad. We went into this season with an even weaker squad, promoted a young inexperienced coach to manage it. Hey Presto ! here we are. It's far more than this or that player, it's the sum of everything.'"
Very much so. I think most could see this coming but we're hoping we we're wrong. The pundits could see it, rival fans could see it, the only people who couldn't are the people who hired the coach and then didn't give him a fighting chance by giving him a poor squad to pick from, not that I have seen anything in our play that would suggest having better players would've have changed the outcome of this season.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Well the club obviously saw something in mash long term, why else would you offer him the coaching job. It was a strange appointment when you look at other coaches available at that time.
So who would you go for at this present time,
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I have no idea if Mash is the right fix, but his record ain't great and time is running out.'"
Just like with all things at this club it’s glaringly obvious what this team kept boatd of directors saw in mash. It even rhymes with his nickname! CASH. Cheap awful option and that has been proved time and time again with some of the disgusting performances that have been turned out this season. Going to be a very costly decision in the long run, and, if Ellis walks away it could be one that ultimately sees the total demise of Wakefield Trinity and a fledgling football club is waiting in the wings rubbing their hands ready to take over use of the ground.
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