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| it wouldn't surprise me that the screen will go blank too, get ready to use the old aerial
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"If you have a hard drive plug it in and record via Freeview simple'"
Tight bugger
But can it be set to record in advance if you are not in ?
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| Quote ="vastman"I no longer have an anti Union bias, in fact these days I admire them. Not on the pitch so much but certainly off it. Union in the last 30 years has got almost everything right in a way that RL has got almost everything wrong.
Forget about the 5 nations myth, when RU went pro international RL was still on a high, we blew it not them.
I love RL to my core but when I see those running the game I can’t help but lament the limited gene pool our game pulls from. Being a working class sport is both Leagues greatest strength and it’s greatest weakness. Like it or not the cooler heads, those with long term visions and the abilities to match don’t generally come from or live in the working class North of England. That includes me, I have ideas, some of them good but I’m not educated enough or worldly wise enough to ever know how to put them in action. I typify the northern working man, well meaning but a man who thinks he knows the answers but does very little about it, mainly because I don’t know how or have the self confidence to try. In the end I defer far to often to the big lad who shouts a lot.
I really like both MC and JM but not because they are visionary or brilliant but purely because they are competent, something that should be a given but isn’t They may well, given the chance, one day to prove themselves as such but the tragedy is that by being nothing more than sensible they are head and shoulders above those running most clubs and certainly those allegedly running the game.
Sad but true, RU draws its leaders from the professional and monied classes and it shows. There are people running some well known RL clubs who I wouldn’t trust with running a circus ride.
Of course not everyone in RU is fit to do there job nor is everyone in RL a clown and that applies to the top and bottom of both sports. Where sadly it differs is in ratio and in that RL is the loser.
It’s worst at amateur level, lots of petty small minded people building their own little empires based mainly on who as already stated can shout the loadest.
My lad played both League and Union for nearly 20 years. We both loved League far more but time and time again we were better treated and better looked after by the Union clubs. Far more friendly and far more open and above all well run.
Why any kid who wasn’t steeped in RL would chose it over Union is beyond me and thus the limited gene pool continues.
I confess it’s got better and the input of people like MC and JM is helping but they remain marginalised. You only have to look at the way the real ale drinking intelligencia on Total RL vilify MC for stating the obvious that the game is held back by these tribal nobodies. They call him moaning Mike, so grown up.
The demise of RL has been predicted for decades but if those running the game don’t get a grip in the next few years it will be a self fulfilling prophecy.
So no I don’t have an issue with Union any more I have it with RL (off the pitch).'"
Interesting viewpoint some of which I agree, others I don’t... but non of which contain my reasons for hating Rugby Union
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| Quote ="Spookisback"Interesting viewpoint some of which I agree, others I don’t... but non of which contain my reasons for hating Rugby Union'"
No I’m certain it runs deep with some.
Growing up in Australia in the 70’s I don’t even remember Union being a thing, I’d never heard of it until I returned to the U.K.
Me I just it boring and overrated.
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| Quote ="vastman"No I’m certain it runs deep with some.
Growing up in Australia in the 70’s I don’t even remember Union being a thing, I’d never heard of it until I returned to the U.K.
[uMe I just it boring and overrated[/u.'"
The rules are too complex for me which doesn't help.
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| Quote ="FIL"Tight bugger
But can it be set to record in advance if you are not in ?'"
If you have a new TV with Freeview record job sorted
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| Quote ="chissitt"The rules are too complex for me which doesn't help.'"
Plus the fact there are too many and very subjective. Twats like Child and Hicks would have a field day against Wakefield.
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| Watch most of the Ireland v Wales game whilst visiting mum yesterday , would say wales skill levels and game management were on level with the top amateur clubs ,not a clue how to break down the Irish, forward passes and knock ons a plenty ,they slung the ball around like a hot potato at times ,and if Ireland had gone to the wings more often instead of trying to batter their way up the middle it would have been a cricket score ,shocking performance .Still can’t get my head around those kicks up field when the attacking team has possession ,complete madness in my eye ,am I missing something?
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Watch most of the Ireland v Wales game whilst visiting mum yesterday , would say wales skill levels and game management were on level with the top amateur clubs ,not a clue how to break down the Irish, forward passes and knock ons a plenty ,they slung the ball around like a hot potato at times ,and if Ireland had gone to the wings more often instead of trying to batter their way up the middle it would have been a cricket score ,shocking performance .Still can’t get my head around those kicks up field when the attacking team has possession ,complete madness in my eye ,am I missing something?'"
I can recall it in RL, Harcombe?? I think used to employ it on the first tackle occasionally but even then it was well on the way out.
I assume it’s because in a Union scrum or line out you have a good chance of getting the ball back from a kick so the yardage is worth it. Chuffing boring to watch though.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Watch most of the Ireland v Wales game whilst visiting mum yesterday , would say wales skill levels and game management were on level with the top amateur clubs ,not a clue how to break down the Irish, forward passes and knock ons a plenty ,they slung the ball around like a hot potato at times ,and if Ireland had gone to the wings more often instead of trying to batter their way up the middle it would have been a cricket score ,shocking performance .Still can’t get my head around those kicks up field when the attacking team has possession ,complete madness in my eye ,am I missing something?'"
Because of the key difference between rugby league and rugby union.
If they run the ball from deep, they risk losing it in the ruck. If they kick for position, the opposition have that risk and if your forwards are good you get a chance to attack in their quarter.
It's no different to what we do on the 6th tackle.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Because of the key difference between rugby league and rugby union.
If they run the ball from deep, they risk losing it in the ruck. If they kick for position, the opposition have that risk and if your forwards are good you get a chance to attack in their quarter.
It's no different to what we do on the 6th tackle.'"
But it is’nt poptart as they haven’t got to turn possession over, From what my untrained eye saw the opposition are expecting just that ,and far two often have huge gaps to exploit if a running option was order of the day . Why they turn the ball back inside is also beyond me when outside backs are looking at a clear run to the line . You can see from Ireland’s attack and defence structures that a RL brain is at the helm, Wales had no answers
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| Quote ="chissitt"The rules are too complex for me which doesn't help.'"
We started watching yesterday and I genuinely wanted it to be entertaining (mainly 'cos there was bugger-all else on TV worth watching), but after 10 minutes both me and the missus just got so frustrated with all the un-fathomable penalties that we gave it up as a bad job and switched channels anyway
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| I gave up watching the Ireland game the rec played advantage for the Irish then did it again calling further advantage next it will be a further advantage until a team scores and the other side just kicks off the game is a joke. To cap it off today I watched an Italian defender go up for a high ball early on only to get a forearm from a French player nothing said.
I just cannot bide watching it. I played it at school but never been a fan watching it
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| Quote ="vastman"I can recall it in RL, Harcombe?? I think used to employ it on the first tackle occasionally but even then it was well on the way out.
I assume it’s because in a Union scrum or line out you have a good chance of getting the ball back from a kick so the yardage is worth it. Chuffing boring to watch though.'"
Remember at Bradford some years ago now we kicked straight from the scrum for Paul Sampson (think that was his name) to hare down the field and touch down Unopposed ,and can’t remember the Team doing that again in that season .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Remember at Bradford some years ago now we kicked straight from the scrum for Paul Sampson (think that was his name) to hare down the field and touch down Unopposed ,and can’t remember the Team doing that again in that season .'"
Bobby Goulding providing the kick if I remember rightly?
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| I don't intend to be patronising but I feel that a lot if the comments come from not understanding the (union) game.
The sad thing is, they are learning from our game and we are still bitter about their game and just block it out.
I get the bitterness. Union have a lot to answer for in keeping League down, with banning it in public schools, university and forces. Not to mention demonising players going north.
But they are now learning and passing it off as their own. It bugs me, but we should do the same.
Kicking alone. Brough would be a standard kicker in Union. Just think if we trained like their kickers do. Our game has changed and kicking is much more valuable to us.
I find Rugby League far better to watch, but you can't knock the 6 nations experience. They beat all other sports with effectively International local derbies.
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| I spent time attending RU matches over the last 20 years and the games virtually unrecognisable from my early days. I'm not sure but I think it was Sale who started to play RL in the backs and continued with RU in the forwards.
Like it or not they have taken over the Rugby title while providing employment for players who would have been put out to graze in our came.
Its not that long ago that the grounds were half full and a match day experience non event, all clubs have worked hard to turn things round and have received full support from the RFU.
I doubt very much that anyone withing the organisation can take the game to the next level
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| I spent time attending RU matches over the last 20 years and the games virtually unrecognisable from my early days. I'm not sure but I think it was Sale who started to play RL in the backs and continued with RU in the forwards.
Like it or not they have taken over the Rugby title while providing employment for players who would have been put out to graze in our came.
Its not that long ago that the grounds were half full and a match day experience non event, all clubs have worked hard to turn things round and have received full support from the RFU.
I doubt very much that anyone withing the organisation can take the game to the next level
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| Quote ="lampyboy"I spent time attending RU matches over the last 20 years and the games virtually unrecognisable from my early days. [uI'm not sure but I think it was Sale who started to play RL in the backs and continued with RU in the forwards.[/u
Like it or not they have taken over the Rugby title while providing employment for players who would have been put out to graze in our came.
Its not that long ago that the grounds were half full and a match day experience non event, all clubs have worked hard to turn things round and have received full support from the RFU.
I doubt very much that anyone within the organisation can take the game to the next level'"
You might be right but I think Bath and Leicester and maybe Gosforth were possibly the fore runners in expanding that part of they're game.
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| Managed to set my Q box to record the Channel 4 game. Anybody else?
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| Quote ="Two Points"Managed to set my Q box to record the Channel 4 game. Anybody else?'"
Sky have supposedly sorted the fault so everyone should now have no problems setting record.
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| Any one know who will be presenting the games on 4
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Any one know who will be presenting the games on 4'"
Good question, don't know sorry.
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