One win won't be enough now. We need at least two. I don't think we have another win in us though.

Well thats put the cat amongst the pigeons. Hopefully it will give the team the kick up the backside they need.

we are not down yet !

However we are certainly looking odds on favourites.

The problem starts beyond the actual team.

However HKR are in the same position as us, they will also be very mottivated

But will be better prepared and coached and with players who can create something near the opposition line

More so I would suggest after what we have witnessed recently. We been second best on quality and effort for a while now.

Oh jeez we are going to get them all on now.
Let's just see how it goes.

Form clearly shows which way this is going. London, HKR,Leeds, upward trend. Trinity and the Farts, downward.

PT you have supporters like you who hope for the best and those who are in the real world and just look at the way we are playing. I was once like you but the performances have made me realise that currently we are basically rubbish. I expect the coach will see the effort but you need skill and planning neither of which we are exhibiting currently.

Not sure what you mean PT? It is hard to be positive when faced with the overwhelming evidence since the Widnes game and voicing an opinion about it is what these forums are for. I can assure you nothing would give me greater pleasure than us finding a performance and winning tomorrow, but I make no apologies for not joining Chris Chester’s blind faith that it will somehow just happen because he thinks we have a win in us

It could be between us and Huddersfield by the last weekend. Leeds, KR and London look to have further wins in them. Wakefield and Huddersfield not so much.

You've turned a blind eye all season. People have legitimate worries and grievances and this is where it has got us. We are on the verge of relegation. Make no mistake. And you have been happy to defend this tripe all season.

To be fair I'm not worrying any more I've accepted Championships RL next year and anything above this is a bonus. Ironic that we could be finally getting our act together off the field stadium wise and suddenly we lose our major income stream. Sods law I guess.

Yes, but Huddersfield still have an ace up their sleeve, Catalans at home.

Nope not at all happy, and I'm ok with the 'legitimate concerns' mentioned.
It's the "we're all doomed" posts that wind me up.
Some people don't post until there is bad news to revel in.

I'm genuinely worried but we are not done yet and I'm going to support right to the end. Blind or not.

Worst performance I've seen since, well, most of our games.

I think everyone will be supporting right to the end, but for a season which started out with talk from the club of challenging for silverware, to be hanging by a thread of points difference, you can see people's concerns.

For what it's worth, I think 'the end' will involve us, still on 18 league points, needing to beat London, on 20 league points, to stay up on points difference. Leeds and KR will be safe by then. Huddersfield will probably survive on points difference.

Yes but Tomkins and McIlorum will be back in then, London were lucky they were banned this week.

Oh i know the problem is more than just the team, but they are the only ones now who can pull us out of this. The rest is a discussion for another day.

Despite todays result all will be right with the world if we get the win tomorrow. It is unlikely i have to admit but the ability is there if the desire is. And maybe its the holiday beers talking but i’d like to think they give a toss. Tomorrow will tell us an awful lot.

I couldn’t disagree more!
A win tomorrow will bring some relief but even if we survive this relegation threat, all is not right and big changes are required.

The most dangerous talk on here is that which suggests all our problems stemmed from the injury crisis and when everyone’s fit we’ll be top 5 challengers again. No doubt we will be better but there are deeper issues here than the impact of missing a few first choice players. If we fall for that then we’re setting ourselves up for more perilous relegation battles in the future.

Tomorrow won’t tell us much that we don’t already know!

London aren't finished yet with winning they have got Leeds at home next and could possible beat KR away as well, Are only hope would be that london take their feet off the gas for the last game against us for to win and that might not be enough.

This game today is probably more important than the last game now let's hope the lads can handle the pressure and scrap a win.



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You're probably right Avenger.
I clung onto the injury crisis hoping all would be ok when players returned, but despite some returning things have actually got worse.
It's a bit of a puzzle really because, after the initial London debacle, we did play some outstanding rugby and looked a top 3 team .
The team now really bears little resemblance to what we hoped would be on the park for the season, but the players we put out are good enough to give other teams a game but have not played to the required standard. We lack attacking ideas and our defence has been pathetic. Unfortunately these were not the odd one off below level performances but regular.
You could argue there was a little improvement in the last game BUT Hull were woeful really.
I'm not a coach so don't know the answer but there is a lot to support money motivation as has been suggested on here before.

To be honest i was only thinking in the context of this season and survival. Whatever happens the club needs some serious surgery from top to bottom, but that is for later down the line. Right now its purely about avoiding relegation.

But did we play some outstanding rugby though?! I put on here a while back for people to come up with games that we won comfortably, when we really nailed it in both attack and defence.......well I could only come up with 3! Leeds away, even though we let late tries in, Hull away, and Wigan at home. But now, those performances were probably 'helped' by the form of Leeds & Wigan at that time. Chester in his interviews keeps saying he and MC knows the reasons behind the poor form, then never elaborates on this, unless he simply means the injuries we have had, but that ain't gonna wash with most fans, it has to go deeper than that.......

I think we'll try hard today but haven't got the fitness & the guile of Mcguire to win we'll come up short