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| Martin Sadler just tweeted that Hock's alleging that other players were guilty of the same as him , but not sent home .
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| It will really upset my plans if Kirmond gets called up.
I'll have to start taking an interest in the competition, get some tickets and, worst of all, want England to do well!
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| Hock is a disgrace and it will hopefully mark the end of his international career, Salford must be worried that they've signed a real unprofessional neandathol.
Macnamara is clueless and should have had Kirmond in the Knights squad! Ferres has performed in a good Giants team but Just imagine how Kirmond would have performed instead of propping up a struggling side!
Hardaker should be in centres with Watkins. Burgess brothers should be in pack with Roby and Graham. Half backs Widdop and Burrow. We'll still get beaten by 30.
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| Hardaker and Watkins as the centres are you having a laugh? Don't know why Darrel Goulding hasn't been selected but he should be in before those two. As for the halves out of the options Sinfield/Widdop should be the pairing as Burrow is too small and Chase hasn't performed for England yet (remember he cost us the game against Aus at Wembley)
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| Listened to Hock on the radio he has clearly missed the point of why he has been sidelined
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Listened to Hock on the radio he has clearly missed the point of why he has been sidelined'"
heard it too and its not hard to see why he missed the point !!!!
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Hock is a disrace to RL . Has ability but is basically a thug. Ferres is nowhere near international standard. ItÅ› a downright insult that DK was not even included in the Knights team. Still cannot see anything but an Aussie win not that it bothers me either way.'"
i echo that DK should have been in the 1st team for me and not getting into the Knights well that just stuns me .Dream team, and man of steel nomination how can he be overlooked,he should at least be included in one of the squads maybe Mcbannana don't like him i don't know but he deserves to be in the knights at least. Im'e sure he would do a better job than Hock or Ferris the form he has been in this season
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| I thought he had been sent hime with a SMACKED bum
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| Total and utter over reaction as a result of silly expectations from the management. Hock is a very good RL player who should be smashing into the Ausies on Saturday. The reported icidents would have been kept in house by a good manager, Hock and the others should have been given a good dressing down infront of their colleagues, fined and made to do extra community work on behalf of the squad. These young men have been in camp for weeks, I would expect them to break a few of the silly rules imposed on them. Rugby players throughout the ages have ` miss behaved`. So they went out for a drink, so Hock missed a meeting, big deal. Punish him yes but in house, not with this stupid look how strong I am management in the media style.
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| Couldn't agree more about keeping things in camp and it's no real shocker that a rugby player may drink and get his wool off now and again...However I would not of picked Hock his form this year has been poor and his game discipline is shocking; this guy can certainly unpin a teams hard work. Glad he's gone.
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| I wish he was a Wakey player.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Total and utter over reaction as a result of silly expectations from the management. Hock is a very good RL player who should be smashing into the Ausies on Saturday. The reported icidents would have been kept in house by a good manager, Hock and the others should have been given a good dressing down infront of their colleagues, fined and made to do extra community work on behalf of the squad. These young men have been in camp for weeks, I would expect them to break a few of the silly rules imposed on them. Rugby players throughout the ages have ` miss behaved`. So they went out for a drink, so Hock missed a meeting, big deal. Punish him yes but in house, not with this stupid look how strong I am management in the media style.'"
Couldn't agree less.
Discipline in camp is important and attending training the most important thing.
He hasn't been binned for having a drink. He's been binned for not taking his role seriously
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"I wish he was a Wakey player.'"
I'm glad he's not.
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| Quote ="Willzay"I'm glad he's not.'"
We must be overloaded with hard hitting props then!
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| Quote ="JINJER"We must be overloaded with hard hitting props then!'"
Or even back rowers.
He has no respect for club,country or even himself.
Waste of a skin.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Or even back rowers.
He has no respect for club,country or even himself.
Waste of a skin.'"
My mistake, but why a waste of skin? He used recreational drugs, not performance enhancing, that in my eyes makes him weak,and as for the moral stance I can think of two bad boys that we've employed whilst under a cloud!
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| Quote ="JINJER"My mistake, but why a waste of skin? He used recreational drugs, not performance enhancing, that in my eyes makes him weak,and as for the moral stance I can think of two bad boys that we've employed whilst under a cloud!'"
Because he's too stupid to learn how to behave, he's a England international and with comes some responsibility, or it would to a normal person.
I don't and have never supported the signings of the players you refer to.
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| Quote ="JINJER"My mistake, but why a waste of skin? He used recreational drugs, not performance enhancing, that in my eyes makes him weak,and as for the moral stance I can think of two bad boys that we've employed whilst under a cloud!'"
Having a responsible position that kids will look up to for guidance? Hock did not give two hoots for this. No one in their right mind would condone the use of any drug including "recreational" ones. Hock may have played some good rugby but as a person he is not fit to represent England
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| What is most depressing, is his singular failure to learn from his past misdemeanours; there are other examples much closer to home, of players who have found themselves in the last chance saloon and as a result, got their heads down and tried to rehabilitate. Hock appears to be incurably stupid - he goes to the last chance saloon and gets bladdered! Thick as a whale omelette.
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| Looks like the other lads who were implicated have been left out by McNammara.
A few notable absentees from the squad, all who were rumoured to be involved in the night out.
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| Quote ="jonh"Looks like the other lads who were implicated have been left out by McNammara.
A few notable absentees from the squad, all who were rumoured to be involved in the night out.'"
Which makes the cries of protest from Dr MarwanK and his cronies even more hollow; everyone has been punished, but Hock has suffered more serious censure due, I would imagine, to a) his past record and b) the fact that he was guilty of several breaches.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Which makes the cries of protest from Dr MarwanK and his cronies even more hollow; everyone has been punished, but Hock has suffered more serious censure due, I would imagine, to a) his past record and b) the fact that he was guilty of several breaches.'"
and c) despite going out n the lash, the rest of them turned up for training on time!
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"and c) despite going out n the lash, the rest of them turned up for training on time!
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and d) they didn't have a go at the coach when he bollocked them for it.
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| We are going to get mullard on Saturday
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| Quote ="snowie"We are going to get mullard on Saturday
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Is he any good? what position does he play?
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