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| Quote ="60sCat"My view as well TURFED OUT - after watching Wakefield since 1960 I am absolutely gutted. What is the point of this coming season when the franchise decision is now cut and dried. Despondent!!'"
nail on head we are knacked the Crusaders farce had killed my pig but this tops it just dont see the point anymore gutted 
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Frustration that they have known Belle Vue has not been up to scratch for almost 20 years and have left it until only recently to try do anything seriously about it. Perhaps.'"
There have two very viable schemes occupying their time for much of the last few years, and they have both been vetoed by politicians. The club would have been daft to not back either of them, and I'm not sure there is much else they could have done.
I don't say they are perfect, and I have no idea what could have been done that they didn't, but it seems a shame that people just seem to see today's outcome as an opportunity to bash the board. What else could they have done in the last five or six years to have made the situation any different. The issue has not been funding in either case, but political decisions.
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| Not coming on here gloating at all infact quite the opposite it's a sad state of affairs when we both need new stadiums (in times like these) and plunging ourself into debt to stay in SL. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad bit glad when I heard the news as a Castleford Tiger supporter however when I think about it, it's a sad day for RL.
Anyway without being patronising keep yer chins up and keep fighting.
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| Merry Christmas... war is over.
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| this needs a bigger response now, there will be a shareholders meeting on 4th January 2011 where I bet it will be announce plan B.
if it is at Barnsley then that shouldn't change our position if anything it should enhance it, so we then have to look at playing out from there until the PI has been completed.
our next step is to get that franchise without it were doomed, with it and we have another three years.
the 2012 season traveling to the new stadium should be set up using buses from different parts of Wakefield rather than the two that we use now, and pick up and drop off points on the way.
lack of support away from belle vue will be the death of the club.
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| Quote ="snowie"this needs a bigger response now, there will be a shareholders meeting on 4th January 2011 where I bet it will be announce plan B.
if it is at Barnsley then that shouldn't change our position if anything it should enhance it, so we then have to look at playing out from there until the PI has been completed.
our next step is to get that franchise without it were doomed, with it and we have another three years.
the 2012 season traveling to the new stadium should be set up using buses from different parts of Wakefield rather than the two that we use now, and pick up and drop off points on the way.
lack of support away from belle vue will be the death of the club.'"
Don't you mean a bus and a skateboard at the back ?
Sorry...had to be said 
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| Did hear rumour that plan B was moving in with Fev R at Post Office Road, would certainly attract more supporters than watching NL at Barnsley, dont know if move would be part of a merger or if it eas just on a temp basis. Would we still have investors if playing in NL for another 3 years what would be point of playing in stadium with car park big enough for 25 buses when only playing Batley, Hunslet,(no disrespect) etc. Think it is looking good for Halifax. dont know how much messing about with thornes park has knocked us back. All blinking doom and gloom but will make every effort to make every game home and away.
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| Quote ="snowie"this needs a bigger response now, there will be a shareholders meeting on 4th January 2011 where I bet it will be announce plan B.
if it is at Barnsley then that shouldn't change our position if anything it should enhance it, so we then have to look at playing out from there until the PI has been completed.
our next step is to get that franchise without it were doomed, with it and we have another three years.
the 2012 season traveling to the new stadium should be set up using buses from different parts of Wakefield rather than the two that we use now, and pick up and drop off points on the way.
lack of support away from belle vue will be the death of the club.'"
I agree without the franchise the club is doomed to death or obscurity (in perpetuity)... not sure which is worse?
however I fear that if the move away from Wakefeld is more than one year then that too will prove terminal.
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| Quote ="Ray Price Is God"From the RFL's point of view, would you let either us or Cas in based on any promises we make for the future? They have done that before remember.
While they have said 1 to definately go, i dont see why both us and Cas wont go as I think this news brings Halifax right into the mix for a place.
Im waiting for the M word to be raised again?? Having said that, where would we play? Neither of us seem to be able to sort it.'"
The problem is that you promised ground improvements when you were promoted nearly 10 years ago and nothing has changed. Yes our application has been slow and Richard Wright has taken his time to make annoucements, but slowly but surely the jigsaw is taking shape. The recent news of the lifting of the 'exclusion zone' around Hicksons and today's decision to guarantee the £2 million worth of land from WMDC has made our planning application stronger. The fact that the road network is in place and the land ready to start building on, plus the fact we own our ground gives us a slight advantage.
I really hope that you can find a solution and are in SL from 2012.
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| Reading [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/page.php?id=375this[/url and other information it seems certain Widnes will be accepted into Super League and one club demoted.
I also think it certain that Newmarket wil be constructed,but not for some time.
What needs to happen is for Wakefield Trinity Wildcats to ensure it has more going for it than one other club.
Salford,I think,will remain in Super League.Harlequins have a rock solid benefactor.
The weak link is the club in Wrexham who have possibly lost a good deal of any neutral support the club may have gained at Bridgend.The actions/inactions of the 'people behind them' are not good and they are disliked by the soccer fans and possibly the locals.The youth development of rugby league players is mainly in south Wales.
I do not think the soccer fans would object to any actions which upset the club owners and ends the soccer clubs ties with rugby league.
You could start to garner support at Cardiff,in February,posssibly with Cas and Salford fans also helping,and having followers from other heartlands clubs on your side.
Trying to persuade supporters to boycott attending the Racecourse Ground would certainly hit that club in the pocket and while sending a message to the RFL who appear to waive the rules for some clubs,it would certainly send a message to the 'owners' of the Wrexham club.
To make an omelette you have to break some eggs.
I agree with expansion and would like this country to show an interest in sport but the treatment of the fans in Bridgend,the players,John Dixon, and now Brian Noble,Jon Sharpe etc.and the conduct of the Wrexham club sends out the wrong message.
Don't despair for too long - You have a club to fight for !
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| Quote ="underground"I agree without the franchise the club is doomed to death or obscurity (in perpetuity)... not sure which is worse?
however I fear that if the move away from Wakefeld is more than one year then that too will prove terminal.'" I expect that this was organized ready for this case, but we need to be in the lime light now for the right reasons as the bids go in, after the franchise bids we will know our fete
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| Quote ="New York Bar X111"Did hear rumour that plan B was moving in with Fev R at Post Office Road, would certainly attract more supporters than watching NL at Barnsley, dont know if move would be part of a merger or if it eas just on a temp basis. Would we still have investors if playing in NL for another 3 years what would be point of playing in stadium with car park big enough for 25 buses when only playing Batley, Hunslet,(no disrespect) etc. Think it is looking good for Halifax. dont know how much messing about with thornes park has knocked us back. All blinking doom and gloom but will make every effort to make every game home and away.'" a move to fev is going to bring NL, barnsley at least give us half a chance
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| Quote ="New York Bar X111"Did hear rumour that plan B was moving in with Fev R at Post Office Road, would certainly attract more supporters than watching NL at Barnsley, dont know if move would be part of a merger or if it eas just on a temp basis. Would we still have investors if playing in NL for another 3 years what would be point of playing in stadium with car park big enough for 25 buses when only playing Batley, Hunslet,(no disrespect) etc. Think it is looking good for Halifax. dont know how much messing about with thornes park has knocked us back. All blinking doom and gloom but will make every effort to make every game home and away.'"
but would post office road meet the super league criteria?
i think barnsley is the best option but i reckon your looking at 2 years minimum at oakwell and thats if.
1.the rfl accept your franchise with oakwell has your temporary home.
2.can the club be a viable business while you are at barnsley with expected lower gates and full rent to pay for every home game if you get a franchise.
my money is on the club using oakwell has the franchise bid but if the bid fails and the rfl decide you need to take time out of super league until newmarket is built, then surely the best option to keep the business going would be a groundshare with featherstone or dewsbury which would be far cheaper than oakwell.
at the end of the day you are now at the mercy of the rfl and even a move to oakwell may be a bridge too far with the extra costs and less income.
not here to gloat im just trying to get a fealing of what your next move will be.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"but would post office road meet the super league criteria?
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"There have two very viable schemes occupying their time for much of the last few years, and they have both been vetoed by politicians. The club would have been daft to not back either of them, and I'm not sure there is much else they could have done.
I don't say they are perfect, and I have no idea what could have been done that they didn't, but it seems a shame that people just seem to see today's outcome as an opportunity to bash the board. What else could they have done in the last five or six years to have made the situation any different. The issue has not been funding in either case, but political decisions.'"
Sorry Slugger, but the decision re Newmarket is not political. It is purely down to Local and National Planning Policy. EP really had no choice but to call it in - read the letter for the reasons.
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| losers and winners?
loser - Wakefield Trinity - the delay will force the club from the city and put the continued franchise of the club in serious jeopardy. without the franchise the future of the club itself must be in doubt.
loser - Wakefield City Council - having to pay for a public enquiry when funds are at an all time low, potentially losing a private enterprise development partner, not being able to meet their legal obligations for sustainable development, losing out on privately funded community sporting facilities, and thousands of jobs
loser - the people of Wakefield - the PI will be funded by tax payers, much needed jobs are put at risk, the extended period where there are no sporting facilities for the youth of Wakefield... possibly indefinate.
loser - Trinity fans and the Rugby League - a state of the art satdium built in parkland and environmentally sustainable, built specifically for Rugby League and fully funded seriously at risk.
loser - the developer - massive investment in time and resource and money potentially wasted in a time of deep recession.
loser - local residents - despite the delay, there will be a development on this site in the forseeable future. There are now chances that this could be a complete intustrial development rather than mixed industry and leisure.
winner.... Widnes RL perhaps? Cas RL perhaps (if they can get their act together)?
winner - Leeds city council - who have asserted their authority over the smaller neighbours
winner - for now - the nimbys - who have a few more months before the bulldozers roll in.
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| A move to Fev may be best chance of survival if no SL licence, move to Barnsley is step closer to extinction, do you think Wakefield v Dewsbury will attract neutrals from South Yorkshire?
Even more fed up than i was 10 mins ago.
PS Is it any coincidence that the council have guranteed 2 million pounds worth of land today, seems a bit strange.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Every mp, every councillor, in Wakefield should now be called upon to lobby mr pickles.
Pressure must be applied to maintain proffesional sport in wakefield!!!!'"
Yes my feelings exactly also pressure on the RFL , how can nearly 140 years of sporting history and all the hard work of our community dept etc just get tossed aside by them at Red Hall
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| My earliest memory of being a Trinity fan is as a tearful 9 year-old at Wembley in '68.
It is therefore ironic that Leeds should again feature strongly in my sadness for our great club, given that there objection has no doubt had a major influence in this decision (rather than the NIMBY's), which in turn is almost certainly going to bring down the curtain on Trinity as a force in RL.
Forget Widnes - think Rochdale Hornets. 
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| Quote ="feline"Yes my feelings exactly also pressure on the RFL , how can nearly 140 years of sporting history and all the hard work of our community dept etc just get tossed aside by them at Red Hall'"
Quite easily cos it doesn't fit their agenda. We can lobby all you want but it won't make a blind bit of difference, they've a plan and they'll stick to it. If it kills wakey off, so be it.
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| Don't like being the harbinger of even more doom and gloom as you have had a pretty rough day as it is but I have just been looking on the barnsley fc forum and there fans seem none too pleased with the fact you could be looking for a ground share. Infact after reading the thread, today is the first thing they have heard about it and the brown stuff is hitting the fan big time.
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| Quote ="tigerman1"Don't like being the harbinger of even more doom and gloom .'"
Give over I bet you are loving it
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Give over I bet you are loving it'"
Yes mate your right I am 
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| Quote ="feline"Yes my feelings exactly also pressure on the RFL , how can nearly 140 years of sporting history and all the hard work of our community dept etc just get tossed aside by them at Red Hall'"
Because Red Hall think we should be happy to be a championship club. Don't worry they also will expect people like you to continue putting in all your time and money for things like squad builder so we can raise funds to develop players so Leeds and the rest can pick off the best.
We are being given life as a feeder club and should be thankfull for that.
Also don't worry about all the hours our club put into the local schools I'm sure Leeds and Cas will happily step in to do that work for us.
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| This is great news no more wakefield chavs in super league the best ever
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