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| John Kear's loyalty should be to John Kear. As soon as anyone does something for a living, they have to look after themselves, and people who think otherwise are putting their own self-interest first. I doubt it is anything about being money mad, but simply doing what we would all do in his situation, and provide himself with some security and a new challenge. What do people expect him to do, not bother about himself and just find himself on the dole in a years time if we don't get a franchise?
He would not have applied for the job if he didn't want it, and if he is mad at the club for not letting him go, then you can hardly blame him, but on the other hand, he is also a professional rugby league coach, and I would expect that regardless of the Catalan job, he will do his utmost to carry on his coaching at Wakefield. As far as I know, he hasn't thrown his teddies out of the cot, and now that this has been resolved, I'm sure he'll go back to drumming his fingers and barking into his headset at Belle Vue. Maybe this will even spark an upturn in the season.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Kear not at all happy with the situation. 'Fuming' was the word used.'"
Complete Tosh was the word used, and this ain't made up.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"John Kear's loyalty should be to John Kear. As soon as anyone does something for a living, they have to look after themselves, and people who think otherwise are putting their own self-interest first. I doubt it is anything about being money mad, but simply doing what we would all do in his situation, and provide himself with some security and a new challenge. What do people expect him to do, not bother about himself and just find himself on the dole in a years time if we don't get a franchise?
He would not have applied for the job if he didn't want it, and if he is mad at the club for not letting him go, then you can hardly blame him, but on the other hand, he is also a professional rugby league coach, and I would expect that regardless of the Catalan job, he will do his utmost to carry on his coaching at Wakefield. As far as I know, he hasn't thrown his teddies out of the cot, and now that this has been resolved, I'm sure he'll go back to drumming his fingers and barking into his headset at Belle Vue. Maybe this will even spark an upturn in the season.'" I can't help but feel that he has to come public and say that he was interested but feels he has to complete what he has started and get us to newmarket/stanley
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| Quote ="snowie"I can't help but feel that he has to come public and say that he was interested but feels he has to complete what he has started and get us to newmarket/stanley'"
I'd rather he didn't do that, since it would be a big fat lie.
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| Quote ="snowie"I can't help but feel that he has to come public and say that he was interested but feels he has to complete what he has started and get us to newmarket/stanley'"
I can't help but feel he should get the team playing decent rugby and focus on winning the next game. That's what we pay him for.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"We gave you the chuffin mods job, what more do you want??? Pay????'"
better pension and holidays
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Between you and me, I support Cas, but don't let any of these buggers know, or they'll kill me. OK?'"
and you would of got away with it if it wasn't for that pesky forum
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Between you and me, I support Cas, but don't let any of these buggers know, or they'll kill me. OK?'"
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| Quote ="mwildcats"=#BF0000Complete Tosh was =#BF0000the word used, and this ain't made up.
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| Would be nice to see the club now seek to resolve the issue by offering a better contract to him to entice him to stay. Put the issue to bed, and announce a new beginning from here onwards.
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| Quote ="Richie_L"Would be nice to see the club now seek to resolve the issue by offering a better contract to him to entice him to stay. Put the issue to bed, and announce a new beginning from here onwards.'"
Hard to do without a secure future.
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| I'm sorry, he's shown his true colours now and the only option is to split.
The club will always owe him a debt of gratitude for staving off relegation four years ago but 10 defeats in the last 11 suggest the magic is no longer working. And that the players no longer listen.
Knowing he wants to leave should bring about a swift parting of the ways.
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| I do think that it could go either way for JK now, the ones that want him out, there mind is already made up, his supporters though may see this as a attempted jumping of ship, and he could well lose some support.
The thing is who in their right mind would not want to jump ship at the moment, if anyone on here was looking at an uncertain future at work, they would also be looking for another job, the fact that he is one of the top coaches also means other clubs will be trying to get him.
Personally I think he did the right thing, it didn't come off, basically because the club forced the contractual compensation angle, and he will have to get his head back down.
He still wants to go, he is still wanted elewhere, but the club won in the end, as they should have done with tronc and brough!!
Maybe he wouldn't have been so ready to leave then?!?!
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| Quote ="miscreant"I'm sorry, he's shown his true colours now and the only option is to split.
The club will always owe him a debt of gratitude for staving off relegation four years ago but 10 defeats in the last 11 suggest the magic is no longer working. And that the players no longer listen.
Knowing he wants to leave should bring about a swift parting of the ways.'"
It also makes recruitment for 2011 that little bit more difficult, especially if working with Kear was the draw for any potential signing.
The issue with regards to showing him the door is financial. The club can not afford to pay him off.
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| Message for Mospey Lives On - I have signed up only to show my frustrations at you! Why only come on here to slag John off? And more to the point, why did you apply for the Head of Youth job at Wakefield last year, if you hate John, Ted, Johns family etc so much?? Is it bitterness because you was unsuccessful? The Club doesn't need fans like you. You even turn positives into negatives. More to the point, we never see your face at the Audience With nights. It's alright coming on here and slating John, Ted etc but would you seriously say it to them, no you wouldn't! Hope you have a fantastic life RH!!
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| Quote ="trinalltheway"Message for Mospey Lives On - I have signed up only to show my frustrations at you! Why only come on here to slag John off? And more to the point, why did you apply for the Head of Youth job at Wakefield last year, if you hate John, Ted, Johns family etc so much?? Is it bitterness because you was unsuccessful? The Club doesn't need fans like you. You even turn positives into negatives. More to the point, we never see your face at the Audience With nights. It's alright coming on here and slating John, Ted etc but would you seriously say it to them, no you wouldn't! Hope you have a fantastic life RH!!'"
Welcome aboard.
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| Quote ="trinalltheway"Message for Mospey Lives On - I have signed up only to show my frustrations at you! Why only come on here to slag John off? And more to the point, why did you apply for the Head of Youth job at Wakefield last year, if you hate John, Ted, Johns family etc so much?? Is it bitterness because you was unsuccessful? The Club doesn't need fans like you. You even turn positives into negatives. More to the point, we never see your face at the Audience With nights. It's alright coming on here and slating John, Ted etc but would you seriously say it to them, no you wouldn't! Hope you have a fantastic life RH!!'"
I think the club is in any position to pick and chose what kind of fans it needs at all, and any fan who contributes financially in any way should be welcome with open arms (obvious behavior scenarios exempted).
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| I agree that fans are entitled to their opinions, but is a fan seriously someone who slates coaching staff and directors and never has anything positive to say, sorry but that's not a fan. And if you want to air your opinion that badly, go to an Audience with night, which is an opportunity to air frustrations / comments. It's not so much the Club that gets targeted it's John, family and Ted which was why I asked why apply for a job at the Club in the first place if you have so much hatred towards John and Ted? And more to the point why comment on John not being loyal and being in talks with his agent to go. 100% load of crap and I know that for a fact. So why post lies to give a false impression
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| [url=http://wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2010/06/john-kear-and-wakefield-trinity-wildcats-statement/Club Website Statement[/url
For those that wanted to see it.
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| The statement sems to have omitted whether or not he was interviewed or how Catalans identified him or how he learned of their future plans.
The future should be interesting.
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| Seems perfectly clear to me that he did not apply for the job according to that article.
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| What about his agent though ? Did he on his behalf ?
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| Quote ="trinalltheway"Message for Mospey Lives On - I have signed up only to show my frustrations at you! Why only come on here to slag John off? And more to the point, why did you apply for the Head of Youth job at Wakefield last year, if you hate John, Ted, Johns family etc so much?? Is it bitterness because you was unsuccessful? The Club doesn't need fans like you. You even turn positives into negatives. More to the point, we never see your face at the Audience With nights. It's alright coming on here and slating John, Ted etc but would you seriously say it to them, no you wouldn't! Hope you have a fantastic life RH!!'"
after such a vitriolic comment, im concerned for your health i suggest you go lay down and count to 10. when you have calmed down i would phone the doctors and book in at the well persons clinic and get your blood pressure checked out you will end up ill. MOPSEY LIVES ON is my name on here,i dont post under any other name or any alias but then i dont hide behind a screen. im willing to meet you at any game and discuss your concerns old boy.
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| So where do we go from here now then.... ?
Cats want Kear, Kear talks to Cats but Cats don't want to pay fee to Wakey for JK so drop interest...
We now have a coach at the club who obviously WAS interested in speaking to Les Cats otherwise he would have said thanks but no thanks immediately.
That said, in JK's defence the club ALLOWED him to talk to Les Cats.
So where do we go from here?
Club prepared to let coach go and coach who was prepared to go?
Interesting times ahead AGAIN!!!
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| Quote ="Come On The Trin"So where do we go from here now then.... ?
Cats want Kear, Kear talks to Cats but Cats don't want to pay fee to Wakey for JK so drop interest...
We now have a coach at the club who obviously WAS interested in speaking to Les Cats otherwise he would have said thanks but no thanks immediately.
That said, in JK's defence the club ALLOWED him to talk to Les Cats.
So where do we go from here?
Club prepared to let coach go and coach who was prepared to go?
Interesting times ahead AGAIN!!!
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now jk says he new nothing, what a load of rubbish weve a coach who doesnt want to be there
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