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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I'm not convinced that this is the end.
Someone on the council has the dummy spit to end all dummy spits. MC is quiet publicly and the Trust members are quiet on here, other than saying they are fighting for what they've always been promised and are taking legal advice. MC has never been quiet when he feels he has been wronged. I sense some brinksmanship here and the council don't like it.
What I've learned through this whole process is that I trust MC and CB to do what is best for the long term of the club, not just sign the only deal being offered.'"
MC has just gone on holiday which might explain how quiet he is.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Surely these delaying tactics will push back any possible start on site date to the point where the completion deadline for the start of the 2020 season cannot be met, and then the RL will call time on us and they then, as well as WMDC, (Box) will have achieved their ultimate aim - to get rid of Wakefield Trinity RLFC.'"
Well I will support my club no what no matter what division it is in #wakeytillidie
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| And while ever the project is up in the air Manni won't have a return on his investment.
He will also want a positive and swift outcome on this.
There is still nearly a week to the 31 October deadline.
Keep the faith
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Makes you wonder doesn't it.'"
Exactly what i thought. Especially with all the rubbish of a 2nd Trust being created by RW etc.
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| Quote ="Willzay"The article from the Wakefield Express is so disgustingly anti Tri and pro Box. I utterly despise Wakefield Council, =#FF0000and Box deserves a public hanging.'"
The tragedy here is that you'd sell more tickets for that than you would for any home game
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"And while ever the project is up in the air Manni won't have a return on his investment.
He will also want a positive and swift outcome on this.
There is still nearly a week to the 31 October deadline.
Keep the faith'"
I had high hopes that Manni would maybe make a difference to the project, a new perspective to push it on more, than it had been previously and although I don't know the ins and outs like everybody else on here of what's happened, them hopes are disappearing about what he really wants
Although he still states he wants a stadium for Trinity, I think the first part of this quote speaks volumes imo.
Quote “We are without question behind the Council and will work with them to finally resolve this issue. We want to continue to help the club to deliver a new community stadium for the 2019/20 season.” '"
I think because he's gonna have to have the WMDC Planning etc behind him to do any develping of that area, especially to the extent he wants to, it's no surprise he's with the Council tbh.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"And while ever the project is up in the air Manni won't have a return on his investment.
He will also want a positive and swift outcome on this.
There is still nearly a week to the 31 October deadline.
Keep the faith'"
I’m not sure about that. I guess we are locked in to play at Belle Vue next year now so he is going to be earning from the ground for 12 months anyway. After then he has an extra chunk of land to do with what he wishes rather than having a rugby pitch on it not making him any money. Even if we walked now and went to Dewsbury he just gets on with his plans a year earlier. He can’t really lose and probably doesn’t care either way, what works out better in the end for him is no stadium. .
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| Can't be d to read through 18 pages so are you getting a new ground or not
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| It is late, I am tired after just getting back after a few days away with the family in the North East and of course emotional after today's unannounced press release from WMDC.
All I will say is that I am aware that Rodney Walker was on the phone to someone at lunchtime today, several hours prior to the council press release, telling that person what was coming later today and some of the content of the press release. As such, someone at the Council has been giving Rodney a heads up and yet they didn't even have the courtesy to inform the Club or Trust of the release, it was just issued to the press.
What does that tell you!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"It is late, I am tired after just getting back after a few days away with the family in the North East and of course emotional after today's unannounced press release from WMDC.
All I will say is that I am aware that Rodney Walker was on the phone to someone at lunchtime today, several hours prior to the council press release, telling that person what was coming later today and some of the content of the press release. As such, someone at the Council has been giving Rodney a heads up and yet they didn't even have the courtesy to inform the Club or Trust of the release, it was just issued to the press.
What does that tell you!'"
It had the stench of Rodney as soon as the phrase "commercial rent" was used.
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| Does Rodneys alternative trust actually exist as an entity?
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Can't be d to read through 18 pages so are you getting a new ground or not'"
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It had the stench of Rodney as soon as the phrase "commercial rent" was used.'"
I must be a bit thick because how & why does Walker have anything to do with this at all now, he's nothing to do with the Club or Trust anymore. I mean the bloke's also knocking on, he's had plenty of ego boosts over the years with stuff he's been attached to. He's earned plenty of crust along the way, so why get involved at this stage of his life, if he is involved that is. What's in it for him? I thought he's meant to be a Trinity man through and through.
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| Once bumped into RW when I was a youngster and thought he was a great guy, boy would I like to bump into him again, I think I could happily do time for him. Utter scumbags, don't normally wish bad things in anyone but Walker, Box and Mackie all deserve to rot in hell. An absolute disgrace to the city. Sod it, forget the ground now, let's get the action moving and have our day in court, if the evidence is there let's hang them out to dry and ensure that the remaining land is returned to greenbelt and move out of WMDC for good not for a year.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"And while ever the project is up in the air Manni won't have a return on his investment.
He will also want a positive and swift outcome on this.
There is still nearly a week to the 31 October deadline.
Keep the faith'"
That's not the case though you are far to easily hoodwinked.
We can't stay at BV and he knows that. In less than 12 month we'll be off because the RFL simply won't allow us to stay. Twelve month is nothing to a property company. Then he will be able to build whatever he wants.
I've no idea why you have so much faith in this 'honourable' man as you called him. He's just another property developer and they are ALL the same - just look who's in the White House.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I'm not convinced that this is the end.
Someone on the council has the dummy spit to end all dummy spits. MC is quiet publicly and the Trust members are quiet on here, other than saying they are fighting for what they've always been promised and are taking legal advice. MC has never been quiet when he feels he has been wronged. I sense some brinksmanship here and the council don't like it.
What I've learned through this whole process is that I trust MC and CB to do what is best for the long term of the club, not just sign the only deal being offered.'"
Imho it's the end of BV because there never was a beginning - this was an ambush deliberately engineered to make the club look bad. We couldn't win no matter what we did.
The redevelopment of BV as put forward by WMDC was never possible. That's what me and a few others have tried to point out.
It would simply never be allowed to be built as per those plans. They were just a decoy.
I believe the only reason MC didn't reject the ludicrous scheme straight out was to buy time. At least now he can say he's had a good look which should help a little in the media battle to come.
Legal action is our only recourse. So people on here need to prepare to dig deep because it won't be cheap and it won't be quick.
I pledge £100 right now to any fund. If you want to help the club I suggest you let them know right now how much support you can offer.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Can't be d to read through 18 pages so are you getting a new ground or not'"
No can be d to tell you so jog on.
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| Quote ="Willzay"No can be d to tell you so jog on.'"
My thoughts exactly, a tiresome troll and I'm sure there are more to come.
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| Quote ="vastman"Imho it's the end of BV because there never was a beginning - this was an ambush deliberately engineered to make the club look bad. We couldn't win no matter what we did.
The redevelopment of BV as put forward by WMDC was never possible. That's what me and a few others have tried to point out.
It would simply never be allowed to be built as per those plans. They were just a decoy.
I believe the only reason MC didn't reject the ludicrous scheme straight out was to buy time. At least now he can say he's had a good look which should help a little in the media battle to come.
Legal action is our only recourse. So people on here need to prepare to dig deep because it won't be cheap and it won't be quick.
I pledge £100 right now to any fund. If you want to help the club I suggest you let them know right now how much support you can offer.'"
Absolutely spot on.
We have a crowd funding platform who has agreed to host us so you all will be able to make pledges there when we are ready.
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| Oh well. That’s it in my opinion. No way forward. Box has hammered the final nail into the coffin. The legal process will take an age, the RFL’s patience has hit Zero. It’s all a matter of what half decent players will stay WHEN we get relegated. Goodbye SL, it was fun while it lasted.
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| Absolutely fuming like most. You can see how politics work now.
The lying toe rag at the top sets the agenda, tell the minions what is going on (his version) this filters out and is passed via their so called friends (me in this case) to create Chinese whispers.
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MC was never interested in Belle Vue and has every intention of turning everything down as soon as it is offered, allegedly
CB is trying to get out and sell his shares, allegedly
"They" are trying to sell their franchise, allegedly.
There were a few other small not as interesting bits and a few well known names mentioned and I would not trust them an inch.
This has the smell of a fat turd from Woolley all over it.
Is it such a simple game being played as to p~ss us off so much that we throw the towel in.
I suspect their majority will be down at the election let us hope so.
Can we crowd fund for legal fees. Dig in lads, whilst you must be totally fed up, we are behind you.
UP THE TRIN
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| Well, I guess we all had a sense that there was something a bit fishy going on when the re-developed Belle Vue plans not only came out of nowhere but also had us questioning whether you could actually fit all which was proposed into that space. Just a red herring to throw us off the scent of Newmarket a bit longer so York Court can dig their heals deaper into that lovely 'green belt' land? In the mean time the Council can make out us to be the bad guys for not accepting their unrealistic proposals.
The goal posts have already been shifted massively by moving the new stadium to Belle Vue so the developer can make more money from the Newmarket site, provide us with less facilities than was originally promised (no training pitches, also knocked 2k off original proposed capacity?), now they want to change the rental agreement so further profits can be made from the original s106 agreement that got the land took out of green belt in the first place - Scandalous
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| Quote ="Manuel"Absolutely fuming like most. You can see how politics work now.
The lying toe rag at the top sets the agenda, tell the minions what is going on (his version) this filters out and is passed via their so called friends (me in this case) to create Chinese whispers.
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MC was never interested in Belle Vue and has every intention of turning everything down as soon as it is offered, allegedly
CB is trying to get out and sell his shares, allegedly
"They" are trying to sell their franchise, allegedly.
There were a few other small not as interesting bits and a few well known names mentioned and I would not trust them an inch.
This has the smell of a fat turd from Woolley all over it.
Is it such a simple game being played as to p~ss us off so much that we throw the towel in.
I suspect their majority will be down at the election let us hope so.
Can we crowd fund for legal fees. Dig in lads, whilst you must be totally fed up, we are behind you.
UP THE TRIN'"
See my earlier post.
We have had an agreement with a Crowd Funding platform to host us for over 2 years so you could say we have seen this coming for some time.
We will also promote our case through Supporters Direct so will get through to Football Trusts as well as Rugby League and could get support from those who see that we are fighting injustice.
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| I may have been mistaken but wasn't we allowed to stay at Bellevue next season only because of the upgrade to Bellevue was on the cards?
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| Quote ="Manuel"Absolutely fuming like most. You can see how politics work now.
The lying toe rag at the top sets the agenda, tell the minions what is going on (his version) this filters out and is passed via their so called friends (me in this case) to create Chinese whispers.
i.e.
MC was never interested in Belle Vue and has every intention of turning everything down as soon as it is offered, allegedly
CB is trying to get out and sell his shares, allegedly
"They" are trying to sell their franchise, allegedly.
There were a few other small not as interesting bits and a few well known names mentioned and I would not trust them an inch.
This has the smell of a fat turd from Woolley all over it.
Is it such a simple game being played as to p~ss us off so much that we throw the towel in.
I suspect their majority will be down at the election let us hope so.
Can we crowd fund for legal fees. Dig in lads, whilst you must be totally fed up, we are behind you.
UP THE TRIN'"
Well I am glad you are now seeing the true situation and the slimly stunts from the snake that runs this City no longer have any credibility.
Here is another one for you to pick up on. Funny how the press release was made by one of the less senior 'players' in the council and has no quote or reference to Box.
Things in that statement could come back to bite (hopefully) . Box realises that and that is why he has used Wallhead as his Patsy.
Box is such a scheming rat and I don't blame anyone for sometimes thinking he may have the slightest good intention. I will admit ,it took me a while to work him out but now I have done I can assure you that anything he does regards our club is designed to get rid of us.
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