It's ridiculous to even contemplate WTW receiving any sort of sanction for this incident; the club can have no control over the conduct and behaviour of fans in any location other than inside its own stadium - they are a RL club, not the state police.

What the club should be judged on is their actions in trying to identify and deal with the idiots involved - and they seem to be doing a good job in that regard, although I'm less enthusiastic about MC storming the terraces himself.

Whether Cas are spoken to about their admission policy and stewarding is a matter for the RFL - I wasn't searched on the way in and I was free to wander wherever I wanted, with a flask full of polonium tea in my rucksack, together with a nice bun.

You're usually a pretty good poster but this one is complete crap, there can't be many fans of clubs or a clubs owner who are kicking up such a fuss over just a couple of their own speccis, practically everyone has berated these people for their actions. As for playing the "we're always the victims" card, just look on your own forum for that sort of mentality, kettle pan and grimey spring to mind

Hi.

Can I just ask that nobody whacks me in the face on Sunday please?

I have a very good looking face, ridiculously handsome, and I'm hoping to embark on an acting career in Hollywood. At the moment I'd like to play the leading male in romcom's, as I also have natural charm and charisma. A broken nose would end those dreams.

Thanks.

Can't promise, all good lucking guys deserve a slap every now and then. HTH.

Just below head height then?

I might try and evade the mass mayhem behind the sticks and sneek up to the corporate boxes. Where John kear used to tap his pen against the railings - that'd be a great 'vue'.

If that's your request then so be it, but when the Trinity service crew have finished with you you'll need a body double for your first Bond film!

That won't be a problem, I'd be the perfect replacement for him.

More Brooke Bond than James Bond.

I tend to agree, however the precedent is set. Widnes were fined for the behaviour of their supporters at the cup semi-final not held at their ground.
I'd be happy for the club to deal with the matter internally - surely there must be a number of people able to give the names of the culprits to the club? I also thought Carter's reaction was positive, his action gave a clear message that the behaviour was unacceptable. I wish those near the 'bombers' had identified them on the spot and Carter had dragged them out personally.

If the precedent is set then so be it, we'll have to accept our punishment and move on, but let's not forget the Cas fans that taunted then attacked the Wakey speccis (as described by eye witness's') they're Castlefords responsibility.

Did cas get fined for that match? remember video footage of a cas fan running on the pitch punching widnes fans, what happened to him?

Just makes me wonder what type of fans there is out, you only have to see the vile reaction of the cas lady to Washbrook when he scored, why are fans so passionate that they have to react like that

Cheap beer would be the main cause I would imagine.

No, Castleford supporters and players/staff were roundly praised for restraint despite such provocation!
The incident was looked into, but it was found that the Castleford supporter who ended up on the pitch did so after a steward fell on an advertising hoarding, causing it to collapse and the supporter only took evasive action to avoid being crushed as the steward fell into the front row of the crowd.
The supporter then acted completely in self defence when significantly outnumbered by Widnes "supporters" who had marched the full length of the field to incite violence, and returned to the stands as soon as he was able (with some help from a Castleford player).

I've clearly said I don't think Wakefield as a club should be fined, but I do think the individuals needs to have their names given to the club and action taken against them.

I agree it's very disturbing. I was as gutted as anybody to see him waltz through our "defence", but I reserve my abuse for my own team (and James Child).

Blooming heck, he wasn't even reffing and your giving him grief, has he upset you in the past

You're backtracking here....You said......

"I tend to agree, however the precedent is set. Widnes were fined for the behaviour of their supporters at the cup semi-final not held at their ground".
Suggesting we should be fined.

Then you said......

"I've clearly said I don't think Wakefield as a club should be fined, but I do think the individuals needs to have their names given to the club and action taken against them".
Make your mind up.

Hopefully gets sorted and that Castleford fan who ran the pitch should be banned too. I saw it clearly and he wanted trouble big time.Some hooligans from Castleford too and a fine should occur.

I give benefit of doubt to all other referees. As a general rule, I have a number of people who I can blame for anything regardless of their involvement. These are:
James Child.
Ian Millward.
Margaret Thatcher.

That doesn't suggest I think you SHOULD be fined, just that you COULD be.
Somebody made a point that you can't be fined for the behaviour of supporters at an away ground. I just provided an example to show that you can.

There are suggestions on this thread that Cas Tigers are to blame for a) stewards not searching fans for banned items and b) not stopping the Wakey fans from throwing the smoke bombs. I'm defending my club here - we have banned fans for a smoke bomb set off in the seating area at Spotland, a drunken woman running onto the field to confront the ref at Salford, and a fan a Wheldon Road for throwing coffee. The first two instances are at away games but we have still been seen to enforce bans to our own travelling supporters. We are all representing our clubs when going to away games - WTW will ban the culprits (MC has rightly stated that) but to put the blame squarely on a and b above is ludicrous.
Fair comment about my post been unusually crap through.

Are you related to tigerade in any way, because he has a sidestep similar to yours

For some reason I can't underline the salient points but I agree wholeheartedly that blaming on a and b is ludicrous, but then again the vast majority of people aren't.

Regarding stewards searching speccies on entry to the ground - is this something new to this season at Belle Vue ? I have never been searched at any SL game other than the Magic Weekend.

No - not related Chiss - He has a long way to go in learning the true dark art of the ultimate side-step has young master NottsTiger.