Along with Whitbread, Pitts has been an absolute workhorse this year. Those two are 4th & 5th in the whole league for tackles made with Ashurst in 9th. Can't knock those three's defensive efforts thats for sure.

Jay has been our best player for me with Jai not far behind him.
As for 'Tash yep - apart from that "non-tackle" at Cas.....

As a travelling fan, I'll be glad to see Gaskill in a centre berth in place of the currently toothless Lyne.

The stat that sticks out to me is Proctor. Our highest paid player is robbing the club. No wonder we are skint spending money on burnt out, uninterested rubbish.

Thought he was very unlucky with the knock on as it was an unnecessary forced pass from what I recollect.

In 15 mins his stats wouldn’t be great would they? Maybe he just wasn’t fit which is why he never appeared again in a Trinity shirt but he seemed to do better with his carries than his stats suggest in my opinion.

Either way he had 15 mins how many mins has Atoni had to prove himself?

We’ll agree to disagree on Mason. We certainly do agree on Atoni though.

Can someone give us a link for a website with all the data, tackles, metres etc ?
Cheers

I just did that a few posts ago.

Player stats [urlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player-stats[/url
Club stats [urlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club-stats[/url

Sadly you can't get full individual player stats for each club anymore. It used to be the case that you could but it got knocked on the head a few seasons ago.

If Atoni and Proctor play, may as well throw a towel on the field.
Wasters.

Atoni shouldn’t be anywhere near the 21 never mind 17. Worst over sea’s signing I’ve seen in my time of watching. Genuinely can anyone think of anyone worse.

There's so many different options we could choose from that squad. Unfortunately they're all absolutely abysmal.

The team lacks pace so subject to any injuries I’d go with…

Dagger
Kershaw
Lynne
Langi
Kaye
Milnes
Lino
Whitbread
Bowes
Bowden
Ashurst (cover at 9 when resting Bowes)
Hewitt
Pitts

Subs
Battye
Eseh
Tanginoa
Proctor

Taufua seems unfit and slow so isn’t an attacking threat and Wigans edges would also exploit that lack of pace.

With the pace that Wigan have you can't give our squad a hope. However it may help to reduce the Defecit if we pick a pack that can play without being subbed after 10 minutes ie without Atoni and Proctor.

I know some people will say that the posters on here are not professional coaches but quite a few of us have been watching rugby for 60 years or more and we can spot a player who isn't trying. A hundred percent of posters agree Atoni does not deserve a place even in our weakest squad for years so why is Applegarth continuing to pick him?

To say he is not trying is just an emotional comment to me.
He isn't good enough. That's all.

I feel having the so called frank debates with some players would have been better served not prior to a game like Wigan away, maybe Leigh at home or Cas away. I just don’t get why now when the outcome is a foregone conclusion. It’s not if they win but by how many.

I've never felt us be so far away from the likelihood of a win as we are now. If we actually get somepoints on the board i'll be very surprised

Maybe he’s just trying Tao get enough reaction to avoid being nilled again

It's all about expectation isn't is.

People don't mind Kershaw or Hall making a mistake as they are just starting out and expectations are low.
But Taufua, Atoni and especially Proctor have NRL CVs where you expect more, and I assume are paid accordingly.

Taufua I think is putting 100% effort in but the very fact his highlights reel shows exceptional defense not attack shows he's not going the length.
Atoni I guess is more about his size. He should be able to bounce people around. I'm sure he's targeted because he's so big but he literally hits the floor on first contact. I did wonder whether he's trying for a quick ptb but it isn't working. He needs to get post contact metres and disrupt the line.
Proctor again has played at the highest level but his highlights reel shows immense work rate, great defense and tries getting on the end of a good pass. None breaking tackles though I'm sure he did. Take away his fitness and his NRL team mates and actually he's the same player as Pitts and Pitts is playing better. The only thing in his favour over Atoni is he looks like he's breaking his neck to be better and is ed off when he isn't, but at the moment, he isn't.

I’m sure Proctor was known for his strong runs out wide where he busts tackles….There’s a clip on YouTube showing Proctor hand off one of the biggest (and at the time possibly the best) full backs in the world Greg Inglis and sends him flying as he scores a try.

All in the past unfortunately. The guy is finished and like fools we are paying him a lot and getting nothing in return.

Can't agree PT. His whole attitude and "relaxed" disposition certainly shows a lack of interest and effort. Esah should be starting.