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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are uniquely paying for two full time coaches (with only one working at the club) which will be included in our expenditure unless this is now not the case. If so in some respects we could be putting ourselves in a worse financial position than others who are not expending money in such a way.'"
Once again, simply untrue
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"When CC, Made that statement you have quoted, MC quoted £280k, now it's £ 480k, it's well known we pre pandemic spent £1.2m
So it's not far of 50℅, - however, if you have heard of a regressive tax sum, that cut of 280k hurts us more than clubs of much higher revenue, so any loss affects us greater !'"
If you are meaning player spend, £1.2million is correct, or would have been in 2011!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="vastman"You are just full of it. One you’ve been told that it’s coming out of MC’s pocket and two CC now has a job and even to your lame brain that means he will no longer be getting paid by anyone other than Leigh.
So he got paid after his statutory notice approx two month wages, WOW! That is about the cost of two games from a top player, how will we manage.
[uNow give it a chuffin rest or do us all a favour and go support someone else, maybe Cas (if you don’t already) as they could do with a ray of sunshine like you[/u.'"
If he won the lottery he'd moan because it wasn't a roll over.
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| Its the central funding that is being reduced by £480k not our player budget, that means the amount of cash the club (and other SL Clubs) has been reduced from £1.72m to £1.24m, so we still have more central funding coming in than the £1.2m stated. Obviously this will have an impact on the player budget, but not to the degree of 50% (even if all the £480k came off the £1.2m that's only 40%) the biggest impact will be outside of the first team budgets and that will have an obvious impact on the club as a whole. But as stated, all SL clubs face this reduction in central funding, what is more obscene is that the bigger clubs already in £1m's of debt, will still keep spending more than wakey, and those of the same ilk, which in the long run is extremely bad for the game.
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| I did say if still the case and i don’t remember reading that MC is paying his salary but if so then good for him.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I did say if still the case and i don’t remember reading that MC is paying his salary but if so then good for him.'"
It's been mentioned loads of times and even if it hadn't why wouldn't you assume that might be the case rather than making a huge issue out of very little.
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"When CC, Made that statement you have quoted, MC quoted £280k, now it's £ 480k, it's well known we pre pandemic spent £1.2m
So it's not far of 50℅, - however, if you have heard of a regressive tax sum, that cut of 280k hurts us more than clubs of much higher revenue, so any loss affects us greater !'"
Said before ,Mr Carter as said all clubs will struggle with the loss ,and we are in a better place than a lot .Some clubs are millions in det Do you think getting rid of some clubs from S L is for the good of the game .No it that the big clubs want more cash to help with there det
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| Quote ="vastman"It's been mentioned loads of times and even if it hadn't why wouldn't you assume that might be the case rather than making a huge issue out of very little.'"
Why would anyone believe that a sacked club employee would have his salary paid for by the chief executive. I don’t know what type of business you work for but tell me how many times you have come across this scenario.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Why would anyone believe that a sacked club employee would have his salary paid for by the chief executive. I don’t know what type of business you work for but tell me how many times you have come across this scenario.'"
Yeah well, this is as ever where you are wrong. Chester wasn't sacked he had his contract terminated and there is a huge difference. Sacked is a cheap journo term but you can't be sacked from a contract in the way you mean unless it's for gross misconduct. Depending on the type of contract it is you are obliged to pay it up to its completion or whatever the legal print states.
We don't know when CC's old contract ended or when the verbally agreed one was due to begin. We don't know the terms and conditions. With MC being as far as I'm aware the main shareholder in the club he may well have decided to protect his business asset by paying CC himself or at least in the short term.
Seeing how quickly CC secured new employment he won't be greatly out of pocket and it will be money he can pay himself back at a more suitable time.
Of course, I'm speculating but at least I admit it, but I'm choosing to speculate in a more reasoned and less paranoid way than you do, sometimes the most simple answer is the obvious one. Your anti-club agenda is just too obvious at times.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Why would anyone believe that a sacked club employee would have his salary paid for by the chief executive. I don’t know what type of business you work for but tell me how many times you have come across this scenario.'"
Seems to be getting at you big time SP!
MC has proved time and again he knows the finances of the club inside out - why would he do anything that would financially hurt the club? Why don't you let it drop - surely it's the business of the employer and the employee and nothing to do with anyone else.
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| It is obvious to everyone that Scarlet Pimpernell has an agenda and his posts should be seen as such
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| Can say the same about TrinTrin
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| I guess Vastman does not have any other example of a Chief Executive paying the salary of a former employee and where did you get the idea that his contract was terminated. I know you are family but probably the black sheep so doubt you would be kept in the know.
If MC wants to pay him that’s fine what I did not think would be right is for the club to pay it thereby reducing the money available especially when we are already flagging a difficult financial year.
I shall now return the forum to the bunch of sycophants in the hope that not all independent thinkers have been forced off because let’s face it the forum is slowly dying. I wonder how many contributors the WT forum has lost. I guess because most of the clubs no longer contribute to their forums poor old Vastman cannot go onto their section to enlighten them with his opinions. The club did not help him either by losing so many games under the Chester period.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess Vastman does not have any other example of a Chief Executive paying the salary of a former employee and where did you get the idea that his contract was terminated. I know you are family but probably the black sheep so doubt you would be kept in the know.
If MC wants to pay him that’s fine what I did not think would be right is for the club to pay it thereby reducing the money available especially when we are already flagging a difficult financial year.
I shall now return the forum to the bunch of sycophants in the hope that not all independent thinkers have been forced off because let’s face it the forum is slowly dying. I wonder how many contributors the WT forum has lost. I guess because most of the clubs no longer contribute to their forums poor old Vastman cannot go onto their section to enlighten them with his opinions. The club did not help him either by losing so many games under the Chester period.'"
Or you could just say you've got this one a bit wrong, we probably all have.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess Vastman does not have any other example of a Chief Executive paying the salary of a former employee and where did you get the idea that his contract was terminated. I know you are family but probably the black sheep so doubt you would be kept in the know.
If MC wants to pay him that’s fine what I did not think would be right is for the club to pay it thereby reducing the money available especially when we are already flagging a difficult financial year.
I shall now return the forum to the bunch of sycophants in the hope that not all independent thinkers have been forced off because let’s face it the forum is slowly dying. I wonder how many contributors the WT forum has lost. I guess because most of the clubs no longer contribute to their forums poor old Vastman cannot go onto their section to enlighten them with his opinions. The club did not help him either by losing so many games under the Chester period.'"
Without knowing Chester,s contract details which, unless you are either Chester of MC why would you, this is just speculation on your part.
MC clearly believed that his actions were good and proper and that should be enough for anyone.
For a bloke that has lumped plenty of his own cash and copious amounts of time into the club, I dont understand your "beef".
I mentioned in previous post that plenty of club managers are paid off and plenty of those remain "out of action" for the most of their contracted period. After all if an employer pays you for another 12 months it can prevent you taking on a new job.
The fact that Chester is now head coach at Leigh, there may be less to pay him - equally, there may not.
Frankly, it's none of our business and should stay that way.
Let's move on. Get your season ticket bought and support the club and it's new coach.
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| Why the big concerns over CC payment and for how long.
It was a mistake for M C to make the matter public, maybe his attempt to let people know what a great guy he is.
I would much rather he announced justho much he will back the new coach and in conjunction with WP set some targets that show some intention and ambition
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Without knowing Chester,s contract details which, unless you are either Chester of MC why would you, this is just speculation on your part.
MC clearly believed that his actions were good and proper and that should be enough for anyone.
For a bloke that has lumped plenty of his own cash and copious amounts of time into the club, I dont understand your "beef".
I mentioned in previous post that plenty of club managers are paid off and plenty of those remain "out of action" for the most of their contracted period. After all if an employer pays you for another 12 months it can prevent you taking on a new job.
The fact that Chester is now head coach at Leigh, there may be less to pay him - equally, there may not.
Frankly, it's none of our business and should stay that way.
Let's move on. Get your season ticket bought and support the club and it's new coach.'"
Well said ! last line is what it's all about for TRUE Trinity supporters!
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| I never come from the position that I am right ALL the time as per all the put downs, I do however love debate that breeds clarity !
However, on a slight tangent, has anyone seen the comments of Tony Smith, re - selfish few bigger clubs wanting change by way of taking smaller clubs out of SL, in order to preserve their position & status this quote, " Little clubs getting littleler " ?
Throw in Sky, they were saviours of Rugby league, now we ALL jump to the pay masters, there is no where else to go !
Sad days to come probably down the line ? Any thoughts ?
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"I never come from the position that I am right ALL the time as per all the put downs, I do however love debate that breeds clarity !
However, on a slight tangent, has anyone seen the comments of Tony Smith, re - selfish few bigger clubs wanting change by way of taking smaller clubs out of SL, in order to preserve their position & status this quote, " Little clubs getting littleler " ?
Throw in Sky, they were saviours of Rugby league, now we ALL jump to the pay masters, there is no where else to go !
Sad days to come probably down the line ? Any thoughts ?
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No, just watch the game instead of worrying about stuff tha fans like us can do very little to alter.
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Well, announced by MC, picked up by Google media, wakey, shortfall of £ 480 k, that's 4, or 5 good players we cannot pay for !
So I am in full support of WP, I also feel sorry for him already, he is in a week position, agreed he is aware but that does not change facts of new players & quality players. I will still buy season tickets next season but reality is less players & quality, we are up against it, I will not blame Willie if all goes wrong especially with inevitable injuries !
You can only motivate so far & in so few games, however, up the Trin.'"
Michael Carter has said that £480,000 is actually 9 players for you guys.
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| Best to be 9 Players down and play with 28 ish than millions in det
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"Michael Carter has said that £480,000 is actually 9 players for you guys.'"
Then that will be the same for your team as well won’t it
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| Quote ="djcool"It is obvious to everyone that Scarlet Pimpernell has an agenda and his posts should be seen as such'"
Think he's only happy when he's whingeing ,very strange character
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| Quote ="djcool"It is obvious to everyone that Scarlet Pimpernell has an agenda and his posts should be seen as such'"
Sorry double post
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| Quote ="JONNYGIANT"Sorry double post'"
Are you lost ?
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