Poptart, please stop derailing the thread and take your petty arguements to the VT, or you'll be taking an enforced break.
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It wasnt aimed specifically at you jinjer, more that kind of narrative. I read a lot of posts on all forums and you come across as a decent bloke so apologies if you took offence, it was not intended.
My use of the word 'probably' was incorrect reading it back. I know these lads & others from Eastmoor, Crigg & kettlethorpe; I meant I could probably introduce you should we ever meet & that they wouldn't mind. Apologies again it was vague to say the least!

I love the rugby rivalry that all clubs have, from a sporting perspective, I just find the whole 'poor person baiting' as a sport i.e. Jeremy Kyle etc that is so prevalent in society now really quite sad & shameful. It's a slippery slope and plays right into the hands of those with real power & wealth in this country to attack our neighbour because they act, look, think & aspire differently to ourselves.

I don't believe sporting rivalry was the cause for recent trouble between our respective fans, but this kind of mud slinging that I'm somehow better than someone less fortunate than myself. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. Anyway, I digress; it's been a long, thankless week!

For what it's worth I think you'll do better this year than last & CC has put a better side out - let's not fall out when we should be happy to be the two best clubs in West Yorkshire at the minute!

Absolutely no problem steady, the written word tends to come and slap us all in the face at times, let the rivalry commence.

Exactly! Petty squabbling and point scoring amongst residents of the same district won't make for positive changes for either place and only serves to leave those who can affect this alone to continue to do as they please. It's time they were held to account - let's look in the right direction!

cas don't bother me, I've never needed to go to cas town centre so can't can't comment on what that's like. Some of them seem obsessed by our City club and stadium even opposing the community stadium and rejoicing when it got called in, where as we just wished them luck. Glad I live in the City of Wakefield, proud I live in the City of Wakefield and proud to be a Wakefield Trinity supporter. Our council leader is a prick though and he's from cas.

Had a decent Aussie RL shirt stall in the indoor market a few years back at Cas.

Can't say I've ever shopped in Cas but I've worked most of my life with Cas lads who were Cas supporters,we've had our banter and I've wanted to punch them a few times,but at the end of the day we're still mates and still go out now and again.

Its still there mate, its called "Sporty Stuff" and always seems busy. A little further down the mall is the "Tigers Den" and their gear is even better.

Didn't realise that it was sports stuff, thought they were selling high viz clothing

Bought my first NRL shirt from the shop that was a few doors down from Barclays Bank on the corner.
Penrith Panthers, with Calphos on the front, still got it!

Xscape is cool if you want to go skiing and go to the Cinema and grab a meal but I'm not sure what you can get there (apart from the Ski Slope) that you can't in Wakefield. Unless you're talking about it it being all in one place and Leeds haven't even got anything like Xscape. Saying that Wakefield City isn't that big where you can't got down ings Road to the Cinema than either eat there or go to one of the restaurants in town . The sad thing about the Xcscape is that it's turned the rest of the town into a bit of a ghost town that could do with some regeneration.

I'm surprised you've risen to it - tbh I was really digging at the Cas forum brigade. I was just giving them a taste of there own

Was fun at first the Cas baiting, meanwhile back on track.

In a nutshell really, I think the season ticket salea can be summed up like this.

1. State of Ground
2. Recent poor seasons prior to 2016. Need back to back good seasons to see improvements on the terraces.
3. Pricing of package.
4. Not enough Saturday and Sunday games
5. Marketing of the club.
6. Quality of the beer

But apart from that

With instructions on how to use a stop /go board!

I don't know what number you sold last year but with the signings you've made I'd say that was disappointing

Why.

Total myth I'm afraid.

Not one player we have signed falls into the superstar category that actually makes more people buy SL tickets - that needs to be a Thurstone or a Wally Lewis.

Your theory is even stranger considering you are backing Chester to fail an us being relegation fodder on the VT. Ditto you say Allgood is crap, think you have perception issues.

What it will do is encourage folk to pay on the day and IF we are successful especially at home then it will build season on season - the right way in other words.

I recon we could have doubled that if we'd have gone down the Hudds root but thankfully our Chairman values the product and won't initiate a policy that failed before when we sold 4000 at a loss.

1,200 is where I'd expect to be, I wish it was a lot more but I understand that the signing of players like Williams and Huby though good from a hard core fans POV will hardly set the city alight.
Funny or daftest thing is that the one players who's signing might have excited a few people is Tom Johnstone, but as we already have him and we certainly don't wish to spoil him there isn't much we can do.

If we have an even better season than last year then I think the 2017 season will be a more reliable indicator.

Yes I may well have been picky, but really apart from number 1, I think a bit of thinking, perhaps outside of the box, changes could be made to help remedy the others. Until we either get positive news regardimg Newmarket or a proper renovation for Belle Vue, issue 1 wont get resolved.

Issues 2 and 4 could be resolved with a mini season ticket, to try to entice fans back, especially if we get off to a reasonanle start and also for those with other commitments who cant make all games.

Issue 3 could be eased by reviewing the pricing of the package, but not neccesarily to the realms of the Huddersfield prices. Maybe even to include a shirt.

Issue 4 could be resolved just by a bit of better advertising and also studying if certain areas of the city dont buy into the club. If any areas are identified, get flyers into homes shops etc and get tbe community department to go round to that local school.

Finally, regarding the beer, compare suppliers prices etc. I do know of a very passionate Wakefield supporter who is a member of CAMRA. If you coud get the beer right then potentially Cats bar could be operational 7 days a week.

Off the top of me head I could name you about 40 passionate Trin fans' what are just as passionate about their beer as they are the club, whether that diminishes their entitlement to an opinion because they're not members of camra I don't know.
What I do know or at least imagine I know, is that brewers' don't brew bad beer, they don't brew quality beer for a selected few and rubbish for others. The presentation of the product is the key element here and is purely down to the publican to keep the product up to the required standard, maybe those in charge at Bellevue should look towards this and make a start with the pumps, just a thought.

Good point there Chissitt abouth the pumps.

Maybe even more experienced bar staff. Pulling a decent pint is quite an art and unfortunately a dying one too.

Just thinking back a few years now as to the amount of players ran pubs, Brian Lockwood comes to mind and a lot of the ex Hull KR players of their good 80s era also ran pubs

It's everything to do with the pumps, most landlords/stewards will clean out their lines at least once a week, failure to do so results in a poor pint irrespective of whose pulling it.
Maybe whoever is in charge of the bars are choosing to ignore this because of the cost or maybe just ignorant of the procedure who knows,

Worked a RAF bar for about 3 years and for me it's the cleaning of the pipes, we only opened 2 nights a week so cleaned the pipes in between each opening and we never had complaints. People will not drink from dirty pipes for long, the pain the following day is simply not worth it, that and the fact it is coming in a plastic pot it just will never do well

Come on Vasty, signing Thurston, back to the real world. That even beats my comments regarding Fifita and Graham.

They were out of our price bracket, and if the Zero Tackle website is accurate regarding salary cap values, then Thurstones value is nearly double that of Graham.or Fifita.

I dont think any SL club would have any serious wiggle room without having a detrimental impact of their squad or exceeding the cap.

Overall, with our budget and season ticket sales, I think we have a good squad.

There was never going to be a massive turnover as Chester seems pretty happpy with what he had. We have added speed, size and a bit of depth in the pivotal positions.

IMO, Miller is a good player and is still learning. We have just told the team who finished top to do one when they approached to sign him. He is teaming up with an NRL half back who just cant get regular game time. Hes atbthe prime of his career and probably just wants to kick start it now. I am really looking forward to seeing how this partnership pans out.

Brian still has a pub in Howden, he did have a house close to the Newmarket development but don't know if he still has.