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| Quote ="The Avenger"That’s very gracious of you
Undermine their performance, what are you on!'"
FFS! When you say we won because "they were atrocious", you undermine the efforts of the team!
If HKR were indeed atrocious, then at least some of that must be due to the efforts of the Wakey team.
Radio Leeds said Wakey were good for the win. HKR fans said Wakey were good for the win. Fans who went to the game said Wakey were good for the win. I'll take that.
It's just you!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I’ve attended hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of games over 50 years so I’m not worried what someone thinks about my not attending a particular match. However, I did sit and listen to the whole match commentary on Radio Humberside, from that I formed an opinion, which I believe is quite usual.
Now at no point did I say Wakefield we’re poor or insinuate such. Neither did I say Wakefield were atrocious or that Wakefield only won because HKR were atrocious.
Neither did I spend the last week banging on about performance as you quite wrongly said in an attempt to make me look hypocritical.
I don’t care about you TBH but I do care that people tell lies about what I say and also pretend I said something I didn’t. Especially when said poster is saying stuff on here that they’d never say to my face.'"
Well I'm made up that you've attended "hundreds and hundreds of games"
So have I.
And you weren't there today - which is actually the point.
And I'd happily discuss it and say it to your face.
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| Quote ="dboy"FFS! When you say we won because "they were atrocious", you undermine the efforts of the team!
If HKR were indeed atrocious, then at least some of that must be due to the efforts of the Wakey team.
Radio Leeds said Wakey were good for the win. HKR fans said Wakey were good for the win. Fans who went to the game said Wakey were good for the win. I'll take that.
It's just you!'"
Here we go again, where did I say we won BECAUSE they were atrocious?
Stop seeing things that aren’t there
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Well I'm made up that you've attended "hundreds and hundreds of games"
So have I.
And you weren't there today - which is actually the point.
And I'd happily discuss it and say it to your face.'"
So where are the quotes of me “banging on all week about performance”?
Where is the quote where I said Wakefield were poor?
Are you saying that unless you were there your not entitled to voice an opinion?
The face to face comments weren’t aimed at you!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So where are the quotes of me “banging on all week about performance”?
The face to face comments weren’t aimed at you!'"
But you still weren't there.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"But you still weren't there.'"
So I’m not entitled to voice an opinion?
Again you said I’d been banging on about performance all week, show me the quotes please.
You said I’d branded Wakefield’s performance as poor, please show me the quote.
Or were you just lying about both
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| Never been as nervous about a game in years ,but boy did the team deliver in the second half ,all this huffing and puffing about the team and whilst not perfect it’s a long time since I’ve seen them dominate a game like that. The half’s were busy the forwards were making the meters and our backs looked to have found their mojo again ,then you inject escare into the mix and HKR just had no answers .A fine performance from 1-17 and nice to see Atkins join in the celebrations
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| Am I the only one who thought Hampshire knocked on for his last try? Even on the highlights.
Ref was closer than me so I'm ok with it but if that had been the second try not the last I reckon we'd be hearing more of that.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So where are the quotes of me “banging on all week about performance”?
Where is the quote where I said Wakefield were poor?
Are you saying that unless you were there your not entitled to voice an opinion?
The face to face comments weren’t aimed at you!'"
OK, You were more interested in an opinion from another apparent source.
That said “opinion” doesn’t really hold any water as you weren’t there.
It wouldn’t be as bad if I was the first to point this out to you.
But I’m not.
My issue is you weren’t there.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Am I the only one who thought Hampshire knocked on for his last try? Even on the highlights.
Ref was closer than me so I'm ok with it but if that had been the second try not the last I reckon we'd be hearing more of that.'"
Not for me.
From my view he went to pick it up but due to the bad bounce, kicked it instead.
Defo no knock on for me and TBH none of the KR players or fans at that side complained.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Not for me.
From my view he went to pick it up but due to the bad bounce, kicked it instead.
Defo no knock on for me and TBH none of the KR players or fans at that side complained.'"
Well I guess you are right. Certainly no one complained.
Of course I'm ok with it but just asking.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"OK, You were more interested in an opinion from another apparent source.
That said “opinion” doesn’t really hold any water as you weren’t there.
It wouldn’t be as bad if I was the first to point this out to you.
But I’m not.
My issue is you weren’t there.'"
What sort of warped logic are you using
More interested in another source as opposed to what?
Any other opinions don’t matter because I wasn’t there myself?
What a stupid stance to take!
I formed my own opinion using different sources all of which were there. However, you still seem to be saying that unless you were there your opinion is worthless at best or at worst you’re not allowed to voice your opinion.
Is that correct?
Do you even know what I actually said or are you just blindly waffling?
Are you a liar?
Please provide the quotes, the thread anything to back up your earlier statements about me.
Or just admit you were lying when you made them
Which is it?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I formed my own opinion using different sources but you still seem to be saying that unless you were there your opinion is worthless at best or at worst you’re not allowed to voice your opinion.
Is that correct?
Are you a liar?
Please provide the quotes, the thread anything to back up your earlier statements about me.
Or just admit you were lying when you made them
Which is it?'"
Ok both of you it's getting boring for the rest of us and this is way off topic.
Either PM each other or leave it alone.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Ok both of you it's getting boring for the rest of us and this is way off topic.
Either PM each other or leave it alone.'"
Nah, sorry PT but I’ve been told to F Off, been insulted, been accused of being a hypocrite and had blatant lies levelled at me about what I’ve said. Now you may think it’s OK to do that publicly then hide behind a PM but I don’t.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Nah, sorry PT but I’ve been told to F Off, been insulted, been accused of being a hypocrite and had blatant lies levelled at me about what I’ve said. Now you may think it’s OK to do that publicly then hide behind a PM but I don’t.'"
Well you had your warning. You chose how to proceed.
I've given you plenty of room to reply. Leave it there.
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| FFS lads your happier when you lose.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"FFS lads your happier when you lose.'"
Some individuals are.
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| I listened to it on Radio Humberside too, so I'm not sure if I'm allowed to have an opinion...?
But - the commentators did pretty much characterise the whole game as HKR being so awful, that WT didn't have to do much to beat them; Nick Pinkney ended the commentary by saying "This Wakey team are no great shakes..."
Anyhow - by the sounds of it, despite a lot of errors and indiscipline in the first half, our boys executed much better than we've become used to; obviously I didn't see the subtleties, but it sounds like some changing around made Brough and Miller more effective, and Escare added some real threat.
I was *not* expecting that - but I was very happy indeed to have humble pie for my tea last night. Probably safe now, barring some weird results in the next few weeks.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Some individuals are.'"
Sad isn’t it, a few posters missing on here who can’t stop posting when we lose.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="bren2k"I listened to it on Radio Humberside too, so I'm not sure if I'm allowed to have an opinion...?
But - the commentators did pretty much characterise the whole game as HKR being so awful, that WT didn't have to do much to beat them; Nick Pinkney ended the commentary by saying "This Wakey team are no great shakes..."
Anyhow - by the sounds of it, despite a lot of errors and indiscipline in the first half, our boys executed much better than we've become used to; obviously I didn't see the subtleties, but it sounds like some changing around made Brough and Miller more effective, and Escare added some real threat.
I was *not* expecting that - but I was very happy indeed to have humble pie for my tea last night. Probably safe now, barring some weird results in the next few weeks.'"
Yesterday’s performance I would describe as if we’d have played like that in the last 3 months we’d be top 5 not battling relegation.
HKRs performance was like watching us for the last 3 months.
And hicks was trying his best to keep them in it.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"Yesterday’s performance I would describe as if we’d have played like that in the last 3 months we’d be top 5 not battling relegation.
HKRs performance was like watching us for the last 3 months.
And hicks was trying his best to keep them in it.
Up the Trin'"
This was my point in my rather long-winded thread I posted earlier.
From a fans point of view, it's hard to reconcile. Yes, we hear all the injury stuff but when we see that performance yesterday we just wonder where the hell its been hiding.
When you're capable of being that good why wouldn't you attempt to be so all the time? Yeah, you won't win them all but as you say we'd be nearer 30 points now than 20 even with the injury crisis. Odd.
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| I don't think Pinkney is correct but equally I don't think anyone is saying we are suddenly world beaters.
I'd say the change, with the injuries we still have make so that we should be aiming to be above Leeds.
We can't get higher but mid table obscurity, not being involved in the 5 or the relegation battle is perfectly fine right now.
When we get Tom, Fifita, Ashurst and Arona back with a couple of other possible changes I'll be hoping for the 5 and a challenge cup run again.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"This was my point in my rather long-winded thread I posted earlier.
From a fans point of view, it's hard to reconcile. Yes, we hear all the injury stuff but when we see that performance yesterday we just wonder where the hell its been hiding.
When you're capable of being that good why wouldn't you attempt to be so all the time? Yeah, you won't win them all but as you say we'd be nearer 30 points now than 20 even with the injury crisis. Odd.
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Because life doesn't work like that. You can't be on top of your game every day.
For me that performance would have beaten Leeds and the effort against Hull was comparable but Hull were better than Hull KR. Wigan and Sts would still have beaten us yesterday imho but it would have been a good match.
I don't understand when people equate score line to effort. It's not the only thing that's going on.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's only my opinion but I thought Rovers were dangerous, especially when Garbutt came on. We had a period where we were trying to win it on every play and they took a bit of control.
Mcguire realised Hampshire was outgunned for a high kick but he started going at BJB instead who handled the kicks well. Tupou covered Hampshire much better and plugged the vulnerability.
We also put a lot of pressure on Garbutt too and he tired out quickly.
I thought their tactics early on to play around us was good but the wind was so wild they found the long passes difficult and we managed to run them down.
We played Brough between centre and wing to make him less of a target which worked too.
What I did like was Escare as defensive line manager. He was harassing the team to get off the line quicker and they definitely responded.
We were keener in defense especially the third man in to clamp the legs.
In the first half they got their foot hold with a few indiscipline penalties but in the second half we stepped up the speed and made fewer mistakes which won the game.
I think the speed was driven by Miller taking first receiver more often. He put some big hits in too.
That game has been coming for a month. Hull and Sts managed to still beat us but the attitude has been there for a while, just not the execution.
I think Wigan will be tough but I fancy us against Warrington and London.'"
Great assessment PT that’s just how I saw it too
I thought things we’re fairly even in the first half
Probably down to Garbutt who was excellent but we worked incredibly hard to stop him
Brough showed some confidence on the right edge a few times too when he semi took the line on which was great to see, him and Reece should be a great attacking threat together
I’d give a special mention to danny kirmomd
I’ve never seen a player look more physically drained after a match
If you cut danny open it would be red white n blue, it’s guts me my little boy won’t be old enough to remember seeing his the effort he puts in
At its simplest level
Our forwards went forward successfully and it gave the back room to work
Also agree re your comments that win had being coming for a couple of weeks now
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| Extremely pleased to eat a big slice of humble pie yesterday. I was one of the individuals that just could not see the type of performance based on watching us every game for the last 10 weeks. Good to see us put a good team performance in and really grind them down, down the middle and kill them with field position, thought the kicking game and game management for both halfbacks was great yesterday and then of course we eventually ran away with the game which was good to see and good for the old points difference.
Looking at the table, London, Hull KR and Hudds all need to win 2 games out of 3 and for us to not pick up any more points for us to be in threat of relegation, unless of course we get absolutely trounced by Wigan and Wire. I fancy us to pick up a win against Wire or Wigan.
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