I agree with your sentiments BUT, where would the cash come from to fund any community stadium ?
The whole point of Newmarket was to allow the developer to build on land that was previously off limits as long as they delivered a community stadium.
It should have included "the big white box"(or its equivalent) and in turn this should have triggered the stadium build.

The council allowed the white box to be constructed outside the Newmarket site and therefore the developer was let off the hook.

Without the industrial development, there couldn't be any community stadium.

If we had a pile of cash, there would be no problem but, without Yorkcourt (or whoever they are now) we have nothing, unless someone gets lucky on the Euromillions.

I think you will find we do not have friends with deep enough pockets. A move to Dewsbury will see the end of any hope of having our own ground because Belle Vue will be pulled down and redeveloped and we will have no plans for a permanent new home that anyone is willing to fund.
The state of Belle Vue is entirely down to us because we have spent nothing just allowing it to deteriorate over the last three years. If you think Dewsbury is the answer to our short term future please explain why this is the case and what will we do to ensure it is short term.

Dewsbury would only work short term but it could work but only if the long term goal was a new stadium in Wakefield. We may not have any other option short term & Dewsbury would be best if a bad situation. It's only a few metres out of Wakefield easier to get to than Belle Vue for lots of fans take the hospitality boxes with us and it's better than belle Vue. Keep improving on the pitch, lower rent most of our fans would follow us there but only if it was short term.
I don't believe it's York court or nothing, plenty of opportunities if we look in the right areas with the right people

Your last sentence is what concerns me.
I would be quite willing to go to Dewsbury for a couple of season IF there was DEFINITE progress towards our own ground. If it was Dewsbury with status quo - count me out (after nearly 60 years)

Anyway were getting our name and badge back next season so I'm happy and we will get Stadium sorted. We are the famous Wakefield Trinity.

I know you won't like to hear this but the only ones to benefit from the move would be the board based on the posts on his Twitter account. A move would remove the boards problems with corporate liability resulting from the responsibility of using Belle Vue because it would pass to Dewsbury.
The reverse is that we will be homeless with little chance of finding a permanent stadium and Belle Vue will be gone forever. Those in charge are only in place to try to improve the club during their tenancy, Wakefield Trinity as been going for over 100 years which should be of greater importance than problems we have brought on ourselves with the state of the ground.
I will of course accept that I could be wrong but moving will only benefit those wanting to see the sale of the ground and all the problem that is Wakefield Trinity.

what about the football stadiums around the area surely they would have better facilities and be more fan friendly? I reckon even say play 4 games next year at each of these - Elland RD, Rothermam,Barnsley,Sheifield.

might even get more people to follow wakey that way.

this stadium thing has been going on since I lived over there in 2001 its a disgrace

What makes you think we will get a stadium sorted?

The fans have been hoodwinked, used & abused by Yorkcourt.

The council have overseen the creation of new employment & have additional business rates, they couldn't give two hoots about the club.

How is sloping off to Dewsbury going to help the cause, we'll be out of sight & out of mind.

The money the club receive from Sky now covers the wage bill, then there's the money through the turnstiles plus the corporate stuff, advertising & merchandise.

How about the owners stumping up some cash to make B.V. fit for purpose instead of bleating "woe is me"

Yeah let's have a go at the guy who has already put a significant amount of money into the club, and taken us from odds on relegation to the brink of top 8 and Wembley, for not stumping up the cash to make Belle Vue fit for purpose when we don't even own the ground yet. It's well documented that he along with Yorkcourt and the council have submitted a bid for the ground and that he's been waiting for ages for a decision. Not sure why you expect him to start throwing money at something he might not even own in a few months or even weeks. Even then are you even aware of how much it would cost to make Belle Vue fit for purpose? Maybe he could afford it (I doubt it) but I think he fancies retiring to a nice villa in Portugal as opposed to a bedsit in Wakefield.

Thinking outside the box for a second, maybe we could focus on doing everything we can to make the people who are legally obliged to build a community stadium in Wakefield, you know, build a community stadium in Wakefield?

As for how will sloping off to Dewsbury help, the RFL have said they will no longer give us dispensation to play at Belle Vue unless there's any progress. This roughly translates to a choice between Super League at Dewsbury/Anywhere else or Championship at Belle Vue. Doesn't take a genius to work out which of those is the better option.

Why would you spend a considerable amount of money on a stadium that you don't own. It's not just the stadium but the immediate area around where Super Bowl and the health club was is an absolute dump and an eyesore. I support the team not the ground and don't really want to move away but at the moment it seems like the only viable alternative

Just a question but, assuming that a bid was put in to buy BV (on behalf of the club), who actually put the bid in and was it ever accepted or, have the mosque consortium been successful and nobody wants to tell us.

Also, although BV is now seen as an embarrassment and the RFL no longer want to give us dispensation to play in a "sub standard" stadium.
Would they allow us to play there with some "tarting up" or, are they saying that it will never be fit for purpose ?

The bid to buy BV was submitted by Yorkcourt OR SO THEY SAY !!! because I am lead to believe we only have their word for that, no one has seen it. If you want to believe Yorkcourt its up to you. I would not believe a word they say. The ground is for sale so ask yourself why it has not been bought. Here is my take , there is no money or intention to buy it.

wakefield thornes cricket field and surrounding land - I am being told its being looked at as a possible site!!!!

Well said Jakey. It's hardly 'sloping off ' when we have had the 'gun held to our head'. If people think Carter should invest an enormous sum in renovating the ground , they should put their monies where their mouths are and join him. I could be in for a grand. Anyone else? No I didn't think so.

Nowhere near big enough for a ground & parking etc



And paid for by whom ?

Don't need loads of parking plenty in City centre, best new RL stadium is Warringtons & St. Helens both close to town centre with little on site parking. It would be a good option if true.

And the cost of renting those stadiums (even if they wanted us), would be?

I'm trying to find a way that this could be another gambit by MC - to force the hands of YC; but I can't see how that would work. Instead, it feels like capitulation and a clear indicator that if we move, the fight is over and we've accepted defeat.

I still can't see how WMDC are being allowed to get away with colluding with YCP to renege on the UU; has anyone actually written to the SoS to inform him that his Inspector has been hoodwinked by a tinpot Labour council leader and a small time property developer?!

FWIW this is my take on a ground move.

Dewsbury is by far and away the best option IMHO.

It's virtually the same distance from the town centre than NM.

It's actually nearer to our main supporter base.

It's already built and is modern compared to BV if a little basic.

Who gives a stuff if it's 500 meters away fro being in WMDC they don't deserve us anyway.

It requires very little spending on it in the short term, maybe a floodlight upgrade and some temp seating at the sides of the main stand. We could possibly move our Exec boxes to the ground to give us more hospitality and office space as one end is still free - not sure what state they are in or how easy this is but if Fev fans can rebuild a whole stand!

Long term plenty of room to upgrade to 10,000 plus.

The issue is not the ground the issue is what terms we go on.

If we go as tenants forget about it, as others say we will wither and die - these deals never work and we will eventually be shown the door. Also no one feels connected to the place if we just rent. We will become nomads and end up a basket case like Oldham.

If however we go fully committed and buy a stake in the stadium then it becomes home and it is secure and we could thrive. I'd say 10% was the minimum but 30% would be better, discounted obviously because of what we will bring - SL RL hopefully.

I'm all for it but it may require us all to dig deep into our pockets to achieve - not a Trinity fans strong point I'm afraid.

I've given in, I'm a big fan of TRB and SWAG but I think they have been totally hoodwinked - I don't think anyone on here could have done better but they SWAG are just fans and decent people and as such we have been out of our depth for a while now IMHO - no point fighting now for anything from the NM debacle it's to late for that and I think MC to his credit has come to see things as they really are. We will have to go it alone and that will take all our efforts and I mean ALL of us.

Sadly, I agree; and that's no criticism of the individuals involved - it's business as usual for a property developer to ride roughshod over the wants and expectations of a local community; they do it all the time. When a council leader is on their side, it's no kind of challenge at all.

They had a planning lawyer, planning experts, the planning committee and their own company solicitor at their disposal - together with years of experience of shafting people to get what they want. The ace up our sleeve was meant to be Rodney Walker, but he appears to have been as much use as a chocolate fireguard. We hold no cards, and seem to be paralysed by a total refusal to do or say anything controversial or difficult that could apply pressure to Box and/or Mackie.

It's now left to MC to salvage something from the ashes - and if that's a ground-share at Dewsbury, then so be it.

Thanks for the support guys - appreciated! But when things get tough, we get stubborn!

This ain't going our way, but that doesn't mean we're stepping aside!

TRB has tried his best with all this and if you talk to him he still hasn't given up far from it. However he and the team have been up against individuals that even 'experts' would have difficulty in dealing with. Some people mention what has Sir Rodney Walker done, well from where I view things ,sweet FA, infact he has been more of an hindrance than an help as far I can see.The best thing we can all do is put BV out of our minds, its over, forget it ! If Dewsbury is the best option, at least give it a go and don't give in. If the team threw the towel in like some people we would all be up in arms.
Move to Dewsbury, back the club and keep on fighting.

Anyone know who owns the stadium at Dewsbury?