Just trawled through 15 pages of mainly bitterness from the usual suspects, tempered with quite a few sensible posts' from those not interested in attaching blame but merely trying to put a sensible perspective on the matter, whatever anybodies opinion is on the subject personally I think they would be hard pushed to disagree with this post chose which camp they are in.

So players pick and choose whether they perform ...wonder what the paying public think of that ?

THIS is just how I feel

Like many others I was starting to doubt that BS had the ability to motivate the senior players and he also failed to organise the defence. If you are faced with opponent's that are stronger faster and more skilful as we were on Sunday the only way you can win is to out enthuse them be disciplined organised and as fit as them and you will still lose more times than you win.At times on the first 20 our defensive line just stood and watched and when we conceded did out stand in captain either encourage or chastise the team. I was stood behind the posts and just saw heads go down. Top players and especially up and coming players will not come to Wakefield even if we did have the money because the reputation of the club is of a badly run business. MC May have balanced the books but he treats supporters with contempt time and time again so probably does the same with the players. We chop and change but never get it right. Now already another debacle casts doubt in prospective players minds that this is a suitable place to come .It will take a long time to improve our reputation and I don't think a new coach whowever it is will be able to persuade players of the class of Todd Carney or Dave Taylor to come to this club even if MC won Euromillions.

You ask whether he was all that then go on to say we have improved, he has attracted a higher calibre of player and results have improved. So you've answered your own question, yes he was. And he is a damn sight better than the guy that is getting the job.

absolute b.......s!

I'm a bit miffed by his decision to quit
We all knew it was going to be work in progress , not many of us thought there was going to be a one season miracle and things were just going to fall into place,and even smith himself said it would take time. Though not all the results went our way I thought we were making some progress ...so why quit now..

After keeping us up in the million pound game, he could off walked knowing he had done his job. He decided to come back and committed to a one year deal ..He knew we didn't have a pot to in and that funds would be limited and set about putting his team together.....so if he knew this was all going to take time to come together. Why up sticks 5 games in .when he could of seen his year out putting the structures in place for the clud to move forward, even help point us in the right direction to pick his successor .

So has he fallen out over not being able to bring in players? Well he can't take the hump about that because he knew the score back end of the Middle 8s we had no money!!!
I've also read somewhere that he "didn't have the energy to move that club forward". But surely he knew it was going to be along haul, and like the rest of us ,
tough times lay ahead!!
i think funds will be the root of his decision to go and I doubt we will ever find out wether promises were or were not made .there is a press conference tomorrow so that should be interesting
But if it was funding, I will feel as though he has let us down. He knew before a ball was kicked how tough the job is.and I actually thought he was doing good even if the results were not what we had hoped for..

Just supposing he was promised money for players but it didn't materialise - any different now?

It's possible mate. But why didn't he get those players before the season started..everyone knows trinity have no money..and he surly would of known this!

Don't think we will learn anything at the press conference . MC is hardly going to say BS has gone because I wouldn't give him the money to sign new players. If he did want money to bring in a new stand off why didn't he use the money spent in resigning Miller Arundel Molloy Walker etc in the close season until waiting until now .We all knew Miller wasn't up to the job . Hull told us that .I mentioned in my earlier post why he didn't get a decent 6. No decent 6 would come. Not even a Normanton bred one who preferred a season loan at cas

We have improved because we have better players. Whether or not those players would have come without Brian Smith is a matter of debate. The fact is James Webster won more super league games last season than Brian Smith with 'worse' players. So, I'll ask again, why is it that there is such a reaction he has left when he has won 2 games against super league teams?

For me, a lot has to rest on the players' shoulders. Some of these players have turned from solid super league players to donkeys seemingly overnight last season. If they don't want to be at the club they should have had the stomach to leave in the summer. Naming no names.

He received money for players!
He recruited, He retained and He resigned the players he wanted!
He had a bigger player budget than either Agar or Webster and he had the opportunity to move players on at the end of last year to create even more wriggle room.

If he got his squad decisions wrong and then asked for more, who's fault is that?

If he did ask for more money to spend then I'm 100% sure that Carter would have done all he could to shuffle the furniture and find some money. However, if it wasn't enough and Smiths taken the hump, ultimately taking his bat n ball home then how can Carter be blamed?

Also, agree.

Totally agree with this post.
It's as if he has looked at what's happened and thought... Not panned out as I thought..ADIOS!!

How do you know that the reason for the decision of BS was rugby related?
Could there not have been other reasons for him leaving?
Perhaps we will know a little more after the 'press conference'

I don't. We all seem to be in the dark ..but if it was something else then I think we would be having a joint press conference tomorrow!

I have read all the pages on this thread and other related threads and quite frankly I have no idea who is right or wrong or what to believe but to me its become irrelevant.

Brian Smith has gone. I loved listening to him speak and thought when he was appointed for this season it was the Clubs best appointment of the close season and that under Brian we would kick on. Unfortunately that will not be the case.

I do believe that if Michael Carter had not made the insipred decision to appoint him we would have been relegated and would not be having this debate. For keeping us in Super League Brian Smith will forever have my thanks and gratitude as does John Kear.

But similarly when Andrew Glover left the Club on the verge of administration I sat down with Michael and Chris Brereton and was shown the books, if you could call them that, and saw the extent of the debt we were facing. It would have been easy to just let the Club go into Administration again but the RFL had made that clear that we would be relagated to the Championship - I even wrote to the RFL about it and how they had assisted Bradford and was ridiculed on the Bradford Board and even had my address mentioned.

They were not prepared to accept relegation and Michael and Chris fought to pay all creditors, even putting their houses on the line to ensure that we retain our Super League status and for that they also will forever have my thanks and gratitude.

As I say, I don't know who to believe any more but don't care. All I know that is that Brian Smith has gone and all the best to him, Michael and Chris remain and we need to get behind them and whoever the new Head Coach is and keep on supporting this Club, which, whatever people are saying on here, we all love.

It's not easy being a Wakefield fan, but it never has been in all the 50+ years I have been assocaited with it.

Not a cat in Hell's chance .....

he is rumoured to be commited to the new Canadian job *if reports of his advances on our players & coaching staff (to go to Canada) are to be believed*.

We will never know the real reason but why do we have to fill the void with unsubstantiated theories based on the imagination of some forum members. To type it does not mean it is the truth, if it was I will win the lottery tomorrow.
I am not so supportive of those in charge because they must hold some responsibility for the mess we appear to be in again. I will take great interest in who gets the job permanently because we can then have a better idea if it was to save money by who they appoint. I doubt we will be looking to bring in any further players so we will have to see what impact this will have on the team's performance. To have one coach resign is unusual but now we have three.

Better get used to the idea by the sounds of it.

I agree, I haven't the foggiest one way or the other what's happened, even after reading through all this. As others have said it's a strange one after just a few games and one that i think no one saw coming. It may be rugby related then again it may not.

Hopefully we can find the right man to take us forward, fairly quickly (who i don't know but then again i didn't see BS coming) and looking from a (very) optimistic outlook, hopefully we'll get that new coach effect like we did under Webster when he took charge and win a few games, this time with a better long term outcome though.

Quickest appointment ever. ideally we put the job out there and see who's best and take it from there, no need to rush into anything imo.

I might be being naive here but I imagine as a club we can't afford to be sacking coaches and at least Agar and Webster were gentlemanly enough to accept a severance deal for their resignation, rather than insist on the full contract being paid.

Further it's not really a surprise that we go through coaches, sad to say but it's a fairly thankless task is coaching Wakefield at the moment. Your whole ambition for the season is to survive in SL, with your neighbours picking out anyone who looks decent every year, its a constant rebuilding job. A lot of pressure with very limited opportunity to progress.

Anyone moaning about Cartner needs to give their head a wobble, we are the only club in the league without a rich benefactor who can afford to cover losses each year. We're not in that position and for him to have got the club pretty much wiping it's own face is testament to his acumen.

It's a tough gig being a Wakey fan but it's just another page in the rich tapestry for me, how we'll all laugh about this when we win the treble in 2020

Agree, I've said it for years, anyone that owns Trinity is onto a bit of a hiding for nothing, unless they've got plenty of cash on the hip and for that reason I respect all those who try because I certainly wouldn't gamble my cash and put up with all the headache.

Maybe one day we'll get one of our own mythical loaded blokes who wants to get into owning a RL club.

If we replace him well this is a good thing everybody on here say we have championship players well can you not remember after bradford game how smith had secured 8 or 9 players for this season well alot of these are no way near good enough players like morris,finn,gibson, plus the resigning of arundal walker -just to name a few then we let our best creative player in godinet go.

My worry is that we end up with dickens or chester if we do then we have major problems