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| Quote ="try scorer"Many moons ago I described mathers as a showman threw is arms about to impress the crowd I questioned his heart said he was the master of self preservation I was lambasted on here for my views,now for some strange reason folk are beginning to see the same'"
Completely agree with you. How it's taken people this long to realise I don't know. The man is gutless. Not only gutless but slower than a prop. Not to mention his handling is questionable for a full-back.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"Completely agree with you. How it's taken people this long to realise I don't know. The man is gutless. Not only gutless but slower than a prop. Not to mention his handling is questionable for a full-back.'"
It's not that people haven't noticed, more so the alternatives are even worse. Still think the club should've gone for Greyston when he came back from Aus. Hopefully the young lad Jowett will get a chance in the championship next season, once Agar has left of course.
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| And who do you think will want him Fergus he'll have to drop at least two divisions could possibly make a new start in national conference ,you talk as if he's a pensioner sorry if I don't show him respect or sympathy in my opinion he's pinched money for the last two season all his other clubs taken in by his early days at Leeds soon saw his failings and got rid alas his time at Wakefield as been cushy ,picked after poor displays defended by folk on here with cries who could we afford better suddenly were trying different fullbacks I despair that the man in charge couldn't see it coming
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| I am too polite and generous try scorer - yep maybe you are right, where else would he go in Super League???
Wouldn't it be nice to see a fullback who 'buzzed' everytime the ball came his way. Cockayne had his faults but he was always up for it when he had the ball in his hands - shame he didn't stay and Mathers go. Ah well.....onwards and upwards???
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| Going to go with a different slant on Mathers.
He was signed by RA, given the VC, so that puts him in the domestic signing untouchable bracket along with Lyne and Washbrook.
Maybe he has used his role as VC to question the coaching ability of our coach after progress was being made?
For that he has been banished!
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| I just don't get the problem people have with Mathers, its bordering on obsession with some folk
I'm not aware of any better FBs we've had in the SL era?!?
He's our VC, get behind the man for goodness sake!!!! getting sick of hearing it
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| Quote ="musson"I just don't get the problem people have with Mathers, its bordering on obsession with some folk
I'm not aware of any better FBs we've had in the SL era?!?
He's our VC, get behind the man for goodness sake!!!! getting sick of hearing it'"
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Prescott
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Holland,
Blaymire in his first season at the club.
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| If that's your view musson old lad I'm sorry but I for one can't respect it
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| IMO Mathers has always been a "pillar to post" player, never thrilling or enthusiastic rugby from him whether at Leeds, Castleford or any other of the 7 or so teams hes played for.
I say good riddance if rumors are true.
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| Denis Betts must be off his rocker.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Denis Betts must be off his rocker.'"
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| Think he is talking about a Mathers to Widnes rumour that is going round. It would surprise me greatly as Hanbury is a much better fullback than Mathers. And Richies love for the plastic pitch is well known.
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| Yes - I thought that myself when I heard the rumour. I would imagine Halifax as the more likely destination.
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| Do some of you actually believe what you write or are you so obsessed that you allow your personal feelings to cloud reality. If we released Mathers who would we play in his place. Sykes no you don't like him, Sammut no you think he is wasted at full back so who, some teenager out of the under 19's. I wait your usual rabid and ill thought opinions.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Do some of you actually believe what you write or are you so obsessed that you allow your personal feelings to cloud reality. If we released Mathers who would we play in his place. Sykes no you don't like him, Sammut no you think he is wasted at full back so who, some teenager out of the under 19's. I wait your usual rabid and ill thought opinions.'"
This is why, I find it all a little boring about Mathers. He's under contract, we've no money and we have no other specialist fullback on the books who is up to it!
Mathers has his faults but he is not the reason for our poor showing so far. OK, I know defensively he is not the best but often he is exposed because those in front of him have failed.
He's the best we've got so live with it!
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| Why not try Sykes at full back and Mathers at centre for his attacking abilities as he seems to like coming up into the line.
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| Quote ="BRIGGY"Why not try Sykes at full back and Mathers at centre for his attacking abilities as he seems to like coming up into the line.'"
Sykes is a worse option than Mathers at FB and Mathers aint a centre
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| Sykes shouldn't be in any position where is extreme lack of pace and poor tackling technique can be exposed. Best position is on the terracing as a spectator these days.
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| Mathers actually might do well at centre his best attribute is his attacking ability and he would at least look to feed his wing man and his defence is no worse than Lynes but who then plays full back.
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| Quote ="les-goose"Mathers actually might do well at centre his best attribute is his attacking ability and he would at least look to feed his wing man and his defence is no worse than Lynes but who then plays full back.'"
Washbrook? His defence is apparently awesome - that's why he gets picked every week.
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| Hasn't Riley played some games at full back before? I wud give him a go with lynne on the wing and kleinhorst if he ever gets fit in the centres
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| This anti Mathers stuff is doing my head in. What about all the other crap defence before the opposition get to full back. To my mind he does a good job, joining in attack when possible. There is a creeping anti Mathers campaign which seems to be spreading. Wakefield supporters always seem to want a scapegoat. For God sakes get behind the team (I know it's hard at the moment) but they need some positive support not this constant backbiting. Rant over.
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| and he always seems to have a particularly good match against Cas!!
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| Ive said it before, but i would try Mathers in the Centre. He played there for Cas on a few occasions, once against us at Belle Vue and im sure he walked away with the MOM. Put him there and he isnt so isolated and also his replacement would hopefully offer more when returning the ball.
I just dont see him as a full back anymore. The pace isnt there for starters.
Riley would be a far better option. Sykes for me is in much the same boat as Mathers, maybe one year too long at the top level.
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