Haha, no it seems to be endemic in the sport - look at the VT.

Seriously can't believe all the negativity on here recently, crowds are up, won the last 2, better position than we were last year, which in turn was a better position than the year before. Could have had more points but for that forward pass call vs Hudds, as others have mentioned.

Seriously, lighten up people - it's really not all that bad, yes things aren't ideal but they are far from the bleak, black picture some are keen to paint.

PS I notice people very vocal in criticising the club have been very quiet in supporting them by getting involved with club 1873 initiative that they posted on here recently.

here here!!

I'm a realist, I accept that all's not perfect, but we have enough negative posts/ posters without turning positive threads into negative one's.

Not the best time to be asking for people to go door to door asking people to join 1873 when the collector would be the one having to explain to disgruntled members why the cheque for the winnings bounced?

I've done with this negative thread, stand by every word i've said but won't continue with it.

Normally I'd agree but when Big Al and few others are saying it I worry. I also worry a little that neither TRB or IA are commenting on this thread.

Yep you'd think 8,000 v London would be a massive upper for people but the messages seem mixed.

I actually know nothing about the current club, I'm out of the loop and happy to be so - but I still hear stuff and it's not all positive sadly.

Sadly there is far too much mud being slung this time. I hope I'm wrong but I have got a feeling it's going to stick!

Everybody want to here good news don't they? the club has tried to build itself on good news.
We have the biggest increase in gate numbers watching the club? if true why are we in the position of getting C.C.Js?

The truth is its is a very difficult thing to run a rugby club everyone knows that and yet when people want to help. Then see the comments that Richardson had to endure and now looking like glover has to is there any wonder local business men don't get involved?
Newmarket is the saviour and yet there is still a big black hole of finance that has to be found a most difficult task with the country in such a position.

the game is spilt from multimillionaires wanting to inject cash into their teams! and the rest of the league who cannot support what they already have !

Once the first years accounts were posted (2nd year due soon) writing had to be on the wall yet we were told by management and supported oh this is fine .

What is the answer? the only answer is more support from fans councils and probably the most likely avenue new investment if this can be attracted.

Well his latest tweet put some to shame
"Andrew Glover ‏@AndrewGlover1 1h sometimes I wish fans would spend more time in the shop than starting rumours! It's tough out there, but we are battling through!"

People need to get behind the club

I spend what I can afford in the shop and support the club home and away (including Hull last night). Fans can only give so much, we've not got bottomless pockets!

Agreed FT.
Too many comments on quitting the 1873 and generally taking their bat & ball home.
The reality is that a club of our size does need every penny it can raise. So, instead of moaning about stuff, realise just how good a deal we all got on S/T and get some cash spent in the shop (s) and while we're at it, get behind the boys against Widnes and lets see if we can rattle some of the big boys higher up the table !

Come on Trin !

That's not really the point he is making is it.

So with this can we put to bed the Administration rumours?

Then he's not really talking to you is he.
Even then you are taking his tweet a bit too literally.

Lets see if the weekend brings the 2nd Mayan Apocalypse or just a home game v Widnes.

Personally i think his tweet is right and wrong.
The supporters of this club have every right to speculate over its future, we've been doing it for decades and for very good reason.
If AG thinks the supporters right to ask questions is wrong he is arrogant or completely missing the point of what being a wakey fan is and has been for a number of years.
I agree more money needs to come into the club, i've been saying for ages that ST prices should be more realistic but sadly many supporters have got used to the discounted prices and to put them up too quickly the club would be at risk of being a victim of the discounted success and losing support it has worked hard to build up - a catch 22.
I like almost every wakey fan am very grateful to AG and also very grateful of the ammount of his own money and time he has put into the club, but do not think we will not question decisions we think are not in the best interest of the club or put the club in peril.
Supporters do not like to be taken for mugs and from time to time rumour turns out to be true...time will tell on this one, but god knows i hope there isn't any factual base to it and it is just speculation.
I hope AG realises we have as big an investment in this club as him and i hope he knows generally he has our support, i also hope he has a good handle on everything that is going on at the club and with his and our money.
Generations upon generations of family support and investment in this club means everything to a club like ours, tere would be no club without the supporters and there would be no club without AG.
May i suggest a new motto?
Together we are all in it balls deep - like it or like it not.

There is a right and wrong way to ask though so no I don't really agree with you and I don't see how voicing his opinion is in any way arrogant.

When speculation actually puts the clubs ability to trade at risk it's both morally and legally wrong.

Speculate in my opinion is just a posh word for gossip.

We must be the only fans who spend 90% of our time speculating on non playing issues and frankly it's making following Trinity a joyless task.

I'm not in the least bit dismissing the speculation by the way, no smoke and all that but I'm in no rush to fan the flames as this will not help.

Remember this you more than most pushed AG as a demi god and I warned you at the time - he is a one man band and he is WTRLFC and owns ALL the shares unlike Ted or previous Boards, As such he has no obligation whatsoever to let the fans know anything he doesn't want them to and if anyone is being arrogant on that issue it's you.

I suggeste AG was arrogant for presuming wakey fans shouldn't ask questions/start rumours - that is arrogant or misunderstanding the psyche of the wakefield fan.
I never suggested AG was a demi god he was however the only serious guy looking at saving the club and therefore deserving of our support and rescuing the club from the catastrophic mess Ted got us into so again therfore deserving of our support. Weather or not he is continuing to take the club on Teds previous collision course is a serarate issue and can only be merged by someone patiently waiting to say "i told you so" in some vein attempt of whitewashing the past.
I agree with everything else by the way but this attempt at shoe horning your agenda on top of what is only (at the moment) speculation says pretty much everything about you.
Everybody knows a club like ours in a league like this needs eithe a very strong fan base or a Jonny Dollars at the helm - we have neither.
If there are things going wrong fans have a duty to ask questions, thats what we did under Ted (well you didn't) and thats what we will continue to do - its called consistency and wanting the greater good for the club.

We do have one or two fans that, in there efforts to show how "in the know" they are, act a bit like Moodys or Standard and Poore and actually create crises.
Personally, until I win the Euro Lottery, I'll throw as much money as I can afford at the club and look as far forward as the next game. This ethos has served me well since the 60's.

We need to be carefull that we don't cross the line between a supporters independent forum and the clubs second twitter outlet.

This board is for fans to ask questions good or bad, within reason.

Maybe if posters didn't jump on every word said on twitter/facebook and come running on here we'd all be better off.


Just a thought.

The 140 character limit on twitter does not lend itself to making concise informative club statements, i wish they (AG and JE) would pack it in, it just does not help the club or the supporters the way they use it.
The club has a face book page and a website that more people can use than twitter anyway and is more useful, twitter is just a cock measuring contest for them and at times it backfires - badly.
Stick to keeping us informed by the standard methods and regular meetings with the supporters trust who also have a facebook page.
I know the ST have asked for a place on the board and it was refused but i really do think that it would be a good idea as at times the club do not seem to understand what its like being a fan and equally at times we do not appreciate what has to be done to keep the club viable and functioning.
Maybe then there would be less need to rely on pub gossip and rumour.

What i said yesterday is not half as bad at whats been posted on this thred, i got blasted for saying i have and could, no more will i post about what i hear regarding the club

See this is where you fall down and this is where you are arrogant, and believe me when I say I do think you are 100% a committed if naive fan.

Of course I and others had plenty to say as we were well aware of the clubs pending demise well before it happened. But you tell me how airing the clubs dirty washing on here would have helped? For a start we would have lost even more players and staff had the vultures got wind of it earlier - ditto in this case (may well have started even if it's untrue). I also believe AG may not have got the deal he did had it been earlier whilst Parkin would have run a mile. The club retained it's integrity just long enough to limit the damage.

You need to accept that this is not a members club - it's not even a shareholders club it's a private business. In realistic terms the only genuine issue you can really raise is whether your season ticket will be honoured as you have paid in advance for that - all the rest is non of our business in strictly corporate terms. Because of the nature of RL I do believe it benefits a club to be more open with it's customers than other businesses but it's not obligatory. All the moral posturing in the world won't make AG tell you what he doesn't want or need you to know.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you wanted a new cutting edge business style corporate Trinity and that's what you've got - better the devil you know sometimes

Are you a spin doctor, how you have twisted that to back up the stupid post you placed yesterday is beyond me - but hey credit for trying.

Total tosh "better the devil you know" the club was a dieing & lieing embarrasment and on a one way ticket out of SL and possibly out of existance before the trigger was pulled and well you know.
Fate may well have saved us in the guise of Crusaders troubles and you only have to look at what has happened around Sl to relaise we are not alone in any financial problems.
As supporters we have a voice, otherwise what point the ST and the various supporters groups we had in the past (some of which you were involved in (I think??)) are they/were they pointless??
We all have views and if we can get the club to buy in thats good, of course its a privately owned consern but supporters are allowed to have an opinion.
If we are ignored we drift away, thats what happened before and that hastens the owner and the clubs demise, surely an active support is a good thing for any sensible owner.

They better find a new company strap line then. Maybe 'Together When It Suits Us'.