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| Does anyone know what time big Ali came on? I didn't spot him until about 60-65 mins in, which given we lost Poore in an incident fairly early on I found perplexing.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"Does anyone know what time big Ali came on? I didn't spot him until about 60-65 mins in, which given we lost Poore in an incident fairly early on I found perplexing.'"
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| I'm starting to be baffled by Agars squads and substitutions (I await the cod head "i told you" replies with gritted teeth.)
Flogging dead horses three games in a week, keeping fresh legs off the pitch either by not selecting players or not playing subs.
My "Agar Out" banner is starting to itch!!
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| Quote ="PHe"61 minutes'"
Thanks, it makes little sense to me to have the most sizeable forward sat bench warming for so long when the other forwards are working so had because of Poore's departure. That is unless he's carrying a significant knock and we're down to the last 16-17 standing.
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| Quote ="Ossett Cat"Ref didn't give the pen for the alleged elbow and Farrell retaliated, the first offence was Farrells punch.'"
Farrell didn't throw a punch FYI.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Farrell didn't throw a punch FYI.'"
Its funny as pretty much everyone I have heard it from aside from you said he did!
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Its funny as pretty much everyone I have heard it from aside from you said he did!'"
Everyone being Wakefield fans and Yorkshire radio commentators you mean?
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| Did the 12 000 ish Wigan fans help the referee with some of the 50:50 decisions?
Did the Wakefield fans try to help the referee from behind the sticks with the same 50:50 decisions?
Next Sunday, will Warrington be invited to stand down the west terrace so the help the referee?
Will Wakefield try to help the referee from behind the sticks?????
Every other club I know make home advantage count.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Everyone being Wakefield fans and Yorkshire radio commentators you mean?'"
Heard it off some wigan fans too (Twitter).
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| Quote ="TRB"Even more reason to control the ball better than we are - especially as our defence is soft this year.
Yes, we can score points and today was a case in point, but we didn't give ourselves a chance right from the kick-off.'"
I agree we dont respect the ball at all. I am all for expansive rugby but we do not respect posession and our defence is not good enough not to respect possession. Its worrying Agar never mentions this after the games. As for using the squad better i am so peeved off with the MAriano thing. Agar has his favourites without doubt.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Heard it off some wigan fans too (Twitter).'"
Think they're wrong then. The video might prove either of us wrong but I saw Farrell put his arm across him and then Poore floored him. Faz is too smart to throw punches, especially at someone like Poore.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Think they're wrong then. The video might prove either of us wrong but I saw Farrell put his arm across him and then Poore floored him. Faz is too smart to throw punches, especially at someone like Poore.'"
At the end of the day, it happens. I'd rather our players not do it but they do. It's the heat of the moment.
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| It killed what was already going to be a very difficult game for Wakefield.It may have been different if Poore just got Sin Binned for 10 mins or maybe played with controlled aggression instead?
Wonder if Farrell was aware of the previous Poore and Ryan Bailey tussle and played for it?
For team spirit but don't think we're anywhere near as good as end of last season and discipline and defence are worrying areas.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Everyone being Wakefield fans and Yorkshire radio commentators you mean?'"
I asked for some detail on the Wigan board and got a couple of replies from Wigan fans, for some reason the threads gone from the board but it told me all i need to know.
He threw the first punch and missed.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Think they're wrong then. [uThe video might prove either of us wrong[/u but I saw Farrell put his arm across him and then Poore floored him. Faz is too smart to throw punches, especially at someone like Poore.'"
It can't, you've already said he didn't throw a punch.
So thats Wakey fans, yorkshire radio and Wigan fans who are all wrong.
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| Daft as it sounds, the way we started the game with 13 on the field, I am not convinced we would have done much better had Poore not being sent off. I also think a lot of fans would have settled for a 20 point losing margin when we were 10 0 down after 10 mins.
Wood did well when he came on and based on today's game, I would probably play him at stand off next week and leave Sykes at FB.
Also thought Mellars played well to say he has been in and out of the team.
Tim Smith seems to still be carrying his calf injury and Washbrook didn't look 100% fit.
Finally Aiton had his best game of the season imo, some great defence and caused problems running from dummy half (something I wish he would do more)
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| Not much to say when you play the form team for most of the game a man down. A team like Wigan will always find those overlaps with some of the class they have playing for them. At least we stuck at it and showed some pride & passion with a few good individual performances from the boys.
I agree with TRB on this, I think we are a better side than what they've shown this season. It's very similar to this stage last season in that we've played really well at times but we haven't put together that solid 80 minute performance. For me we've got to learn when to throw the ball around and when to stick it up the jumper, particularly when we've had leads in games and stop the silly mistakes that kill us at times.
Like someone else said previously the loses to Catalans, Huddersfield, Hull and the draw to Salford are the ones that hurt the most. Said at the time the lost points could come back to bite us and will also put the team under even more pressure. With a little bit more composure and a bounce of a ball here or there we could have been easily in the top 8 but instead we're looking down not up and fans are getting disgruntled.
Over the next month or so we really need to step it up and start looking like the team that finished last season. Start getting some consistency together with some big performances, starting with the likes of Catalans at home, Widnes & HKR, which are all winnable imo.
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| For all those who didn't go Wakey ,in my eyes played good football after going down to 12 men.They showed spirit,guts and kept going to the end.If they play with the same spirit next week and don't have crap decisions from officials 2 points are ours.I'm sick of listening to opinions of people who were not there or just bag Trin with blinkers still on.As regards Poore,his loss is someones gain.All players today deserve a pat on the back.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I agree we dont respect the ball at all. I am all for expansive rugby but we do not respect posession and our defence is not good enough not to respect possession. Its worrying Agar never mentions this after the games. As for using the squad better i am so peeved off with the [uMAriano[/u thing. Agar has his favourites without doubt.'"
I'd be very peeved if I was Mariano, quality player that Agar doesn't seen to like very much for some very strange reason. A bench place at least for this guy every time, when fit.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Not much to say when you play the form team for most of the game a man down. A team like Wigan will always find those overlaps with some of the class they have playing for them. At least we stuck at it and showed some pride & passion with a few good individual performances from the boys.
I agree with TRB on this, I think we are a better side than what they've shown this season. It's very similar to this stage last season in that we've played really well at times but we haven't put together that solid 80 minute performance. For me we've got to learn when to throw the ball around and when to stick it up the jumper, particularly when we've had leads in games and stop the silly mistakes that kill us at times.
Like someone else said previously the loses to Catalans, Huddersfield, Hull and the draw to Salford are the ones that hurt the most. Said at the time the lost points could come back to bite us and will also put the team under even more pressure. With a little bit more composure and a bounce of a ball here or there we could have been easily in the top 8 but instead we're looking down not up and fans are getting disgruntled.
Over the next month or so we need to step it up and start getting some consistency & putting in some performances, starting with good performances against Catalans at home, Widnes & HKR which are all winnable imo.'"
Totally agree with you Shifty.
We have let some points go very easily this season and sure, we are capable of better.
Unfortunately we are at risk of losing too much ground on the top 8 and with this in mind, RA needs to
try and get the team fit and raring to go when the Challenge Cup comes round.
If that means resting a couple of players next week, then so be it.
Lets hope for a friendly draw tomorrow.
Quote ="Shifty Cat"Not much to say when you play the form team for most of the game a man down. A team like Wigan will always find those overlaps with some of the class they have playing for them. At least we stuck at it and showed some pride & passion with a few good individual performances from the boys.
I agree with TRB on this, I think we are a better side than what they've shown this season. It's very similar to this stage last season in that we've played really well at times but we haven't put together that solid 80 minute performance. For me we've got to learn when to throw the ball around and when to stick it up the jumper, particularly when we've had leads in games and stop the silly mistakes that kill us at times.
Like someone else said previously the loses to Catalans, Huddersfield, Hull and the draw to Salford are the ones that hurt the most. Said at the time the lost points could come back to bite us and will also put the team under even more pressure. With a little bit more composure and a bounce of a ball here or there we could have been easily in the top 8 but instead we're looking down not up and fans are getting disgruntled.
Over the next month or so we need to step it up and start getting some consistency & putting in some performances, starting with good performances against Catalans at home, Widnes & HKR which are all winnable imo.'"
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"For all those who didn't go Wakey ,in my eyes played good football after going down to 12 men.They showed spirit,guts and kept going to the end.If they play with the same spirit next week and don't have crap decisions from officials 2 points are ours.I'm sick of listening to opinions of people who were not there or just bag Trin with blinkers still on.As regards Poore,his loss is someones gain.All players today deserve a pat on the back.'"
Well said crig-fev man
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| Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!
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| Quote ="4foxsake"=#FF0000Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!'"
No he didn't and how you could make that judgement from the North Stand is unbelievable. Poore led with the elbow, which is what caused the problem. Farrell got hold him and then Poore threw the punch (a good one) which floored Farrell. How the referee gave the penalty to Wakefield is unreal.
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| Quote ="4foxsake"Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!'"
Best and most correct post for some time,finally someone who watched the same game as me,well done.
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| Quote ="4foxsake"Farrell elbowed and then punched Poore, whats Justin supposed to do, stand there and let Farrell hit him!? You know what your going to get when you go to Wigan in terms of the referee but players have to stand up for themselves. Farrell and Poore should have been sin binned and that should have been the end of the matter.
On a brighter note I thought Lee Smith had one of his best games for us today, looked very dangerous in attack. Mellars and Annakin stood out. Team spirit was great. Bothers me slightly that had we played like we did today against Hull and Salford we'd have three more points on the board!'"
Just watched the replay and not one word of what you said about the Farrell incident is true.
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