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| Quote ="J.T"Is it 'typical Wakefield' or 'typical Wakefield fans'? Non story for me but some fans are never happier than when they think they've got something to worry/complain about so they can knock themselves out with this one...'"
Agree, a massive over reaction by the usual suspect imo, posts more when it's bad news.
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| I agree. It is saying somethingw hen we have fans from other clubs coming on being the voice of reason too.
Its happened and been solved. No more to say.
No one else cares but the longer we go on about it the more likely it will be picked up again.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"I read it as Elston told Sandal Cat the reasons and he agreed not to air it in public?'"
I have been told the reason and because of the sensitive nature and the bodies involved it cannot be made public. There is nothing underhand or sinister and as I have said previously only time will tell whether the Club's finances are in order or not but at the moment I am content what I have been told.
I think its time to move on and let the matter lie.
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| looking at the need to suport our club first and the need for transparancy ...it is allways a fine dividing line.on what people should know and what is best for the club at this time.
On one hand the drive for membership and for oct ? ( desperate need for cash?)
official version arnt we doing well with all our new members?
The unthought through statement that it was" just a mistake we ended up with a winding up order "
Is it a mistake that the club now has a C.C.J.( County court judgement for £8500 pound as well?)
Which can only have an adverse effect on our credit rating and at the same time if we continue down this path our next application for a super league licence.
Please please Spirit of 1873 sort out.
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| Quote ="factsareus"looking at the need to suport our club first and the need for transparancy ...it is allways a fine dividing line.on what people should know and what is best for the club at this time.
On one hand the drive for membership and for oct ? ( desperate need for cash?)
official version arnt we doing well with all our new members?
The unthought through statement that it was" just a mistake we ended up with a winding up order "
Is it a mistake that the club now has a C.C.J.( County court judgement for £8500 pound as well?)
Which can only have an adverse effect on our credit rating and at the same time if we continue down this path our next application for a super league licence.
Please please Spirit of 1873 sort out.'"
Link?
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| Quote ="factsareus"looking at the need to suport our club first and the need for transparancy ...it is allways a fine dividing line.on what people should know and what is best for the club at this time.
On one hand the drive for membership and for oct ? ( desperate need for cash?)
official version arnt we doing well with all our new members?
The unthought through statement that it was" just a mistake we ended up with a winding up order "
[size=150Is it a mistake that the club now has a C.C.J.( County court judgement for £8500 pound as well?)[/size
Which can only have an adverse effect on our credit rating and at the same time if we continue down this path our next application for a super league licence.
Please please Spirit of 1873 sort out.'"
Oh you've done it now. Big Alf will be on a mission for rest of week searching the appropriate news outlets to uncover this latest bit of negativity. Expect an update on the Cas forum anytime soon.
Unless of course its just a load off old garbage!
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| Its a seperate issue and is not down to being skint, its a dispute thats all.
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| You have to wonder who it is that sits trawling for these bad news stories about us and trying to de rail the good things that are happening at the club. Is it someone with a grudge against the club or someone from a rival club. I hear other clubs are in much worse financial position than ours
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| Quote ="feline"You have to wonder who it is that sits trawling for these bad news stories about us and trying to de rail the good things that are happening at the club. Is it someone with a grudge against the club or someone from a rival club. I hear other clubs are in much worse financial position than ours'"
I don't really mind the stories coming to light. What really upsets me is how the cock-ups happen in the 1st place. If this episode is down to some individual not doing their job then they ought to be disciplined.
Also. The issue was 1st publicised on TotalRL.com by a poster "South Wakefield Sharks". What sort of grudge have they got?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I don't really mind the stories coming to light. What really upsets me is how the cock-ups happen in the 1st place. If this episode is down to some individual not doing their job then they ought to be disciplined.
Also. The issue was 1st publicised on TotalRL.com by a poster "South Wakefield Sharks". What sort of grudge have they got?'"
It was first published on the cas forum by alcasfan/bigalf then put straight on here then spread like wild fire on all RL forums while bigalf sat back with a sticky keyboard. Some cas fans are desperate for us to have negative publicity that's how desperate they are sad but true. Thing is we're in a lot better state than them from what I hear. He who laughs last laughs loudest and all that.
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| Okay, this thread is doing the Club no good at all and continuing it in the way we are is playing straight into the hands of those who do not wish the Club well and wish it to fail and I fear that some of our own fans (if indeed they are fans) fall into that category also.
I've been assured that the HMRC issue was a misunderstanding and has been dealt with. The other issues raised have also been dealt with satisfactorily and that the Club is trading as normal. Anyone who is is business knows that cash flow is always an issue. You need your debtors to pay you in order that you can pay your creditors, that is how it is, its normal business practice.
The Club is sound, it's not going under which will be a disappointment to some, so can we now end this thread and look forward to hearing some good news shortly, whether thats achieving the Membership Target or player news.
As I have said, nothing more to see here, now lets move on.
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| something very fishy here
so the club is saying there is nothing to worry about and they get monthly visits from HMRC because of whats happened before.
if that is the case how come this has been missed, surely if HMRC were coming every month they would of brought this to the clubs attention.
seems the club is telling you what they want you to hear
and why have a go at adeybull, he was merely stating a fact, wasnt trying to be funny about anything, or is it a case of ' we know our club is lying to us so we will go on the attack to anybody that comments'
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| I have to smile. Some folks on here have taken knicker twisting to a whole new level! In the space of three days we've gone from, "Together we are stronger" to, "We're doomed I tell ye. We're all doomed!!"
The club has issued a statement - it was an oversight, a mistake and it's all been dealt with. Nobody else seems too worried about it. It's just been on the news that Salford's winding up hearing has been rearranged but I didn't hear any reports that Trinity are in financial straits. Just let the people who run the club get on with it - they sem to be doing a pretty good job generally. And as for all the posters saying that the mistake should never have been made in the first place - I agree but the self righteous criticism should be the preserve of those on here who have never made a mistake themselves..... mmmh, I thought so.
Right - I'm going online to buy two season tickets for next year.
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| Quote ="roger daly"something very fishy here''"
Fortunately wishing it so doesn't make it so!
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| It truly is amazing what a bit of bad news will do, people who have never posted have popped up to those that very rarely do have reappeared.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"It truly is amazing what a bit of bad news will do, people who have never posted have popped up to those that very rarely do have reappeared.'"
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Fortunately wishing it so doesn't make it so!'"
not wishing it so at all
you have to admit its strange if HMRC are there every month and the club are saying its an oversight, but as adeybull got attacked for merely pointing out a fact, im sure you will struggle to get your head out of the sand and do likewise to me
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| could quite easily be HMRC error rather than the club - they sent the Bailiffs round to a client's premises for late interest payable of £17 last week, however this had already been paid but was lost in their system. Just shows how HMRC apply common sense these days
Unfortunately HMRC tend to take action and ask questions later in the current climate so this situation could have arisen for a number of reasons.
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| Quote ="roger daly"something very fishy here
so the club is saying there is nothing to worry about and they get monthly visits from HMRC because of whats happened before.
if that is the case how come this has been missed, surely if HMRC were coming every month they would of brought this to the clubs attention.'"
“An oversight on the part of the club in relation to the amount of one such payment led to the issuing of the winding up petition. However, once the club was made aware of this it was immediately rectified.
Does this help??
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"could quite easily be HMRC error rather than the club - they sent the Bailiffs round to a client's premises for late interest payable of £17 last week, however this had already been paid but was lost in their system. Just shows how HMRC apply common sense these days
Unfortunately HMRC tend to take action and ask questions later in the current climate so this situation could have arisen for a number of reasons.'"
And its not a wise move to fall out with HMRC, even if they are in the wrong.
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| Quote ="El Rey"I've been reluctant to post on a few things lately due to the fact i'll be shot down, i can see while everthing looks rosey on the outside people will believe all is well, been told many times that behind the scenes the running of the clubs a shambles in most areas.
"Unprofessional" and "playing at it" is the phrase i've heard most to describe this club.
I don't doubt this is nothing to worry about but its very poor.'"
Interesting to hear you saythis El Rey. I have noted a few things that, in spite of my overall +ve feelings, have made me raise an eyebrow. Drinks stand blocking 3/4 of the walkway behind east stand, cock up on my tickets once, mistake on the folks we sit next to season ticket prices, me being rung 3 x to renew my gold membership when I already have, the cas game fiasco and ensuing trouble. Some +ve things like fetching my hospice shirt down from the ridngs for the Leeds game without being asked cos they noticed Id bought a ticket for my daughter and Id called to say I couldnt get to the ridings cos of where I live...and the marketing strategy seems to be working...but this...blimey. I'm gonna say no more and just sit back and watch now, but I am worried to be honest, and I don't think it makes you any less of a fan to ask perfectly reasonable questions and put the club to scrutiny. We have been let down too many times to be taken for a ride again.
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| Quote ="Bluedog Reborn"You & me both.'"
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| Quote ="dull nickname"Supporting Trin is not for the faint harted that's for sure, the AG gang have one/two more go/es until I start panicking.
There is so much room for improvement though it's untrue should be a doddle to get better than we were/are.
I'm not sure about Elston merchandising makes me nervous, it was cack prior to the AG regime and it's cack now. This should be a major money spinner but opening as many shops as Asda without any decent stock isn't a crackin idea.
We should be the only Ticket in the city (and by default are) but don't show it.'"
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| Cant see anything other than an oversight by the club and one thing alone makes me think so thats the signing of Mathers.Cas are finding times hard and would want the money from his transfer asap to help things for them.If we did not have that money to pay them the deal would have been dead in the water.
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| don't think we are paying a transfer fee for him, unless you know something I don't
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