Remember the 'Block of Flats' and erection of said were included in the clubs initial administration meaning they didn't actually cost us owt to begin with. Mind we can always blame Pearman for that can't we !!
The 'toilet block' was a grant so that leaves the 'inflatable pussy' and a 'electronic scoreboard and timer' that has to be switched off with a couple of minutes to go because it's a bit out

I'm not sure why you refer to the 3 stated clubs. What did they do? Widnes, well the council built them a ground; Hfx, well they eventually got a ground built by the council; Barrow, their ground - with all due respect ain't up to much, but they have got Jamie R.

Two words as to what they do look like they have BUSINESS PLAN or if you want BRIGHT FUTURE. Two things we don't appear have at this moment in time
Those 3 clubs seeing how they are the ones vying to take our place in super league. Widnes council may well have done their stadium but the club have come back from the brink has have Halifax. Barrow may have nothing to write home about stadium wise, but they obviously tick the boxes as far as the RFL are concerned.

I have to say TRB that I hold WMDC partly responsible for the grand mess we are in now. To lead us down the garden path into believing they were going to deliver a stadium.

A stadium used by only one club in a district which has three would not have been fair.
A stadium costing 60 million quid paid for by a council which does not have enough money to throw some salt down on the pavements would have been an absolute disgrace.
A feasibility study costing thousands which wasted months and confirmed what anybody with any common sense could have said.
That stadium was never going to get built fact. It was a pipe dream. Just like the pipe dream taken by the club when promised money by Pearman. What I could never understand about the Pearman issue was that a club that had been skint for years could not have waited a little longer (before splashing out on big player contracts and hospitality suites) to see the colour of someones money but hey!
Going back to the council I also blame them for not banging heads together years ago. They should have helped in the planning process and encouraged Cas and Wakefield to come together in a joint stadium (not a merger).

Rant over.

Would you be willing to organise protests against the way the club is run? How much support do you think you would get? I'm just not sure enough people would agree or care enough to get involved.


That paints a very sad picture but one that's hard to disagree with. I dont think the people running the club can be trusted to make those tough decisions.

The stuff regarding Thornes Park is absolute nonsense even a know nothing moron like myself could see that it was a non starter and if the club gave up even a half baked idea for it then they should be hung for that alone. I struggle to believe, looking at their track record, that those running the club will be able to deliver a plan a,b,c,d through to z.

i think at the moment we have our backs to the wall as fans,its just one balls up to the next. imo i dont even think weve hit rock bottom yet. we can only go forward when we do. thing is i think we all know how bad things are so its a waiting game at the moment. if we win a game or two then jk will be the messiah and lord ted another lifeline, if we start getting hammered then discontent will grow. there is only so much you can do within the law for protests, banners and chanting but the bod is stubbon, if the time comes il gladly stand at the front of any protest. every fan cares some are too daft for their own good at times but get involved we will see. i think certain fans and some on here underestimate the depth of bad feeling around the area towards the club.

as for thornes, well we could of gone for ossett, or denby dale and the bod messed them up. at the time WMDC talked us in to the thornes fiasco, we nearly had the power station sorted and the bod pulled out.

the fight will go on and the support is growing

I think we have lacked a truely independant supporters club, who could have taken the fans point of view to the BOD

It is taking longer than it did to get rid of you

I dont know if James Elston has been fibbing but you certainly have been fed some bull poop by your chairman and mr Walker. I hope you get the pp but I think those in charge already know their fate and will just milk the club out of existance. Its the same for Swag, they have been hoodwinked too and thats the real shame cos they were doing it for the love of the club.

Good luck from a cas supporter too scared to gloat cos were not out of the firing line yet

Ooh, guess who's back!

The truth???? b******s!!!

Welcome back!!

back ????? they said you were a strange lot

goodbye

So from the original question the answer is yes! Another one of Teds lap dogs that should resign immediately!

I don't know how you come to that conclusion. Your original statement was with regard to a stadium 'plan B' and as far as I am aware we have a plan B and a back up of C, also we are exploring the possibility of the contingency (would that be D) of staying at Belle Vue a little while longer than first expected.

Not true. You can argue that a deal is not a deal until it's done, but there is and always a plan B and even a plan C - but they cannot be executed until the parameters are known.

Ted / James / a Trust - would all have faced the same situation.

In fairness though TRB, business doesn't work like that; plan B should have been finalised such that, within an hour of the PI being announced, it could be publicised to fans, investors, the governing body etc. That would have steadied the ship and given confidence to everyone with a stake in the club.

Failure to have it ready to roll has, once again, made WTW look like a shambolic and unprofessional outfit; Mr Elston should take responsibility for that. As someone much cleverer than me once said - fail to plan, plan to fail.

surely this debate has been answered, there was only a plan a for the whole club never mind where we play the games, if we do.

Agreed. It appears clear that the club were relying on plan A coming off with no hitches.

The concern about Plan B now surely has to be getting a finalised agreement. If I was Barnsley or whoever else we have been talking to, with the news about our current financial plight, I would have grave reservations about entering into any agreement with us to rent their facilities, as the possibility of owing them money which we end up not being able to pay, would be a real concern.

That's exactly my point; the total failure to have any contingencies in place was a grave and possibly fatal error - someone has to take responsibility for that.

so you agree with everything i have to say then. you just dont want to admit it

I don't see that - the only people upset by events so far are those who are impatient for an answer. We don't need a ground for 12 months; we don't apply for SL for another 2 months and we won't know for another 6 months.

The timescale for having everything in place is the SL licence submission in March. I would hope that any deal would be tied up by then and hopefully some time before - but no-one has died yet so I reckon 'fatal' is a little strong!

TRB
We had no plan B ready financially for when ground got referred, simple and undeniable fact, whether we had anywhere else lined up to play is largely now irrelevant, I know you would do almost anything for the club, and have, but at this moment in time its not just the people impatient for answers who are upset, its those of us who have them staring us right in the face.

quality post