Am starting to feel like Rhett butler ‘Frankly my dear I couldn’t give a damn’

122 points shipped in 3 games, glad I didn’t waste my money going, was in Spain but I actually turned the radio off at 24 -4

We’ve lost to Leeds (the only team so far to achieve that ) been annihilated by a distinctively average Cas side. Looks like we are back in free fall again.

For me on the field the fundamental problem we have is the inability to look after the ball, repeated 6 agains, inability to complete sets needless penalties and of course the collander style defence.

The only good news we have on the pitch is that Toulouse are awful and provide we get a win there we will be in Sl next year.

For me we too many of our players have been injured and perhaps we have been unlucky in that regard however Tom Johnson sadly is Mr Biscuit, bill tupo was probably never likely to make a meaningful contribution this season given our desire to sign Langi. Minns was a player we signed for a bit of cover but then succumbed to our injury curse, lineham unlucky, our lack of a quality overseas signing has hurt us hard , Whitbread is ok but hardly the barnstorming prop that we needed. What is surprising is given our pack is made up of hardworking professionals how poor our defence has been and how many unforced errors we have given away

Question is without funds new players etc what’s going to change

Animosity aside.

That’s what’s soo peed me off, Cas turned up on Thursday fearing they would be turned over. They simply couldn’t believe their luck. You could visibly see them gain in confidence and by the end having a right old laugh.

I can’t think of many Trinity teams in the last 30 years who wouldn’t have stepped up and turned Cas over. Worse some of the players on show were once part of one of those teams. Where Cas are concerned we’ve hit a new low.

Tom Johnstone comment is pathetic. He may have had a lot of very genuine injuries but in the games he’s played he’s been a total match winner. Without him we wonder be in SL,. What non entity do you think we should replace him with? get a grip, quality over quantity.

I've had major worries about the pack since day dot and I said this even after the Warrington wins. Our pack has not got on top of a game all season and it's there to see in the stats. That's with ball and without ball. The reason we concede so many six agains is because we can't manage the ruck as well as other teams and our pack are really poor out of yardage and generally making metres. Even at warrington our edge defence was pretty good but at times in the first half of both games our middle defence was awful... we somehow sorted itout enough to get wins. Even the Warrington forwards who are getting slated by their fans were marching us 60 metres down field every set. It was the same against Castleford and Salford. The only forty the pack have turned up was the first half against Wigan in the challenge cup. For some reason or another they managed to actually put a performance in and we had a lot of field position and really took it to Wigan without the ball. We can't just rely on Fifita. Some of them need to step up as it is embarrassing. I almost feel harsh pointing the finger at some of them as half the people we play prop aren't even props by nature. Only ourselves to blame recruitment wise. This is a problem that we've had for seasons not just this season.

The prop debate is an interesting one!

I go back to when Chris Chester first took over..we initially did pretty well then Hull came to Belle Vue with their big strong pack and absolutely steamrolled us and CC went on record saying we were bullied in the forwards.

Slowly and gradually he built a formidable pack (in size)…the likes of Fifita, Pauli, Huby, England, Hirst…we had some good times and the ‘bullying’ of our pack suddenly stopped.

Then….all through the covid times and the rule changes which sped the game up it all of a sudden looked like going with such a big pack wasn’t the best of ideas and teams were looking more at more mobile props able to play more minutes….this is the road we went down.

I still don’t think our pack is the worst…when all are fully fit and firing we’re capable of matching the best and that’s built on quick play the balls and plenty of offloads. Against Cas we did neither of those from minute 1 to 80!

Having a big pack doesn’t automatically make you a better team…I look at Hull and some of the big men they have earning big money and they’re still inconsistent and under performing in my eyes.

The sooner Fifita is back in the better though as he’s not just a very good prop, he seems to lift the others to a higher level too. What’s his issue anyway? In the squad 3 consecutive games…led to believe he’s touch and go…chip shop rumours of him definitely playing then not even in the squad for today?

Until we can somehow get real investment we will be perpetual bottom dwellers, with the odd decent season. Toulouse apart, in the SL era we are the only team to not feature in a major final, which I think speaks volumes. As one of the largest population cities in SL, our attendances are bang average, and rightly so. Who are we going to attract new to watch them play garbage RL consistently. Our recruitment has hardly wetted the appetite for a number of seasons, but we will be at the bottom of the pecking order financially, so hardly surprising we have who we have. It’s a depressing feeling knowing the only consistent thing about Wakefield Trinity is that we will be a bottom 2/3 side until said investment happens.

Sadly I have to agree.
Some of our players are simply not SL standard.
The younger end not included because they have yet to learn.
Take Fifita from our pack and the remainder frighten no other team in SL.
Add to that, when they play without heart the floodgates open.
I take no pleasure from saying that.

Hilarious coming from the poster that has spat his dummy out saying he doesn’t want to watch trinity any more because we lost a match

You are hilarious vastcap

I can not wipe the smile from my face seeing you crumble like the dog I’ve always known you to be

Well every cloud has a silver lining





See you later vastcap

Hmm did I say Johnson wasn’t good ? As usual putting your words in other peoples mouthes you pulsinanimous pustule. I merely made a statement of fact - he doesn’t play very often and is injured more than he plays. Most of the other posters recognise that we have a decent first team squad when everyone plays - sadly some of our top paid stars miss more than they play and that is a massive problem for the club.

Anyway pleased to here you aren’t going to post for a while no one will miss you

I was never a fan of the decision to give Poching a job because we have often seen a "assistant gets the job" resurgence after a sacking, followed by a disastrous season the year after when they have it permanently. This is where I hope Poching proves me wrong.

Every season has a sticky bit. Going into the Cas game, we have been looking good, and even in the first half of the cup game we did. Wigan were just more clinical when they got a sniff. Chester found it impossible to dig us out of a rut when we ended up in one. Webster was the same before him. If Poching can, he's done his job.

What worries me is that Toulouse keep getting almost-wins at home. If they beat us there, they will be close enough to make us panic.

Nest Sunday is the chance for a reboot. For me, this next couple of years is about surviving. After that, the extra income that the ground revamp can provide will hopefully enable us to buy better players.

But the reboot has to come against Salford, or else we'll end up in one of those ruts we can't get out of.

Have you got PopTart's problem with his new phone, or have you made them up

Quote ="chissitt"Have you got PopTart's problem with his new phone, or have you made them up '" think he's trying to call him a pussy Trump style https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=24012

Quote ="chissitt"Have you got PopTart's problem with his new phone, or have you made them up '" think he's trying to call him a pussy Trump style https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=24012

Let's cut out the insults and sniping please (feel free to DM each other to continue it if you wish!)
I will start deleting posts if it continues.

Lots of stuff seems to get made up on here, usually by people using other names, whatever makes them ' happy ' I suppose but like some say MUD STICKS.

Have to laugh at the ( Cas are crap) statements and they expected to lose ,I’d take Evalds,Mcshane,Edwards,Mamo,Watts,and Westerman in a heart beat . Simple fact is they were up for it and we weren’t ,no great analysis needed . Our problems this season are compounded by our new recruits who putting it kindly are underwhelming and that lies squarely at Chester’s feet . They have added nothing to the squad ,so in effect we have gone backwards, and to compound our problems we have a fair few of our stars missing far too regular to get a settled team you only have to look at the Miller/Lino partnership to see that . Poaching will be hurting ,he was a winner in his playing days he knows what the clubs about ,let’s give the lad some slack .Let’s regroup and get some bodies back and throw the kitchen sink at these next two games and see how we go . I’ve seen enough at saints to know that when they have the correct mindset they are a force to be reckoned with and can compete ,get it slightly off cue and we court disaster as we’ve witnessed these last two games . We’ve a long road ahead so buckle up ,did we really expect anything different anyway ,what would we have to moan about .

Quote ="snowie"think he's trying to call him a pussy Trump style https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=24012'" I've seen vasty called a lot of things on here, but never one of them

Quote ="snowie"think he's trying to call him a pussy Trump style https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=24012'" I've seen vasty called a lot of things on here, but never one of them

You know me do you.

The dog I’ve always known you were, seriously you sound so tragic, so obsessed and so lost.

I forgive you.

I actually owe you a sincere apology.

I meant to change ‘pathetic’ to ‘harsh’ which would have I hope you agree have been far less combative. I forgot to send the edit, totally my error.

People would miss me, I have as many fans as enemies. Most actually get what I’m trying to do, provoke debate and question opinion.

It's all relative though isn't it? In relative terms, when you look at the league table, if someone had said after the Easter games, we'd be 3 clear of Leeds, and 2 points behind Warrington, i'd have bitten their hands off. If we are doing badly at recruiting, there's something wrong at the club, etc, etc, then there's something seriously wrong at the 2 clubs I've just mentioned! Also Hull aren't exactly setting the world alight are they........again.

Think we done ok with the players we have got .But why were we buying players that are not up to it .Think it is something that as got to change big time .Apart from Hall the other signings have been poor to say the least .Yet we let a player go who could cover wing ,6 and 7 . and gave 100% for the club and more importantly the fans .At least W Poaching signings are less injury prone .So I suppose that is a start

To confirm……..

Absolutely no one would miss you on here, the fact you think you have actual fans only shows how warped, egotistical and deeply deranged you are

I only deal in facts

You’ve had a tantrum because we lost to Cas and said you weren’t going to post for a while

And yet you’re still posting………

He's spot on, he does what it says on the tin, he stimulates debate which is his intention without provocation, some agree with him some don't but they all have one thing in common, they all respond to him, the difference is most people are adult with they're response

Clearly this thread has run its course.
Picking fights is pointless. Leave it alone