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| It is a tough one to call here.
I think overall in the season he has gone ok, but in the second half of the season there had been errors creeping into his game.
I do tbink he has had plenty of chances and would like to see Max get a run.
Sometimes when a player makes an error, it is a mental thing, and it depends whether Chessie thinks he needs a break or him getting back on the horse, especially with another big game next week.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"It is a tough one to call here.
I think overall in the season he has gone ok, but in the second half of the season there had been errors creeping into his game.
I do tbink he has had plenty of chances and would like to see Max get a run.
Sometimes when a player makes an error, it is a mental thing, and it depends whether Chessie thinks he needs a break or him getting back on the horse, especially with another big game next week.'"
I think Grix with a point to prove is better than a full back who hasn't played often enough.
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| Well Grix played well throughout the game but made one hell of a mistake there at the end....
....it wasn't a great kick and his hand on top of the ball would have killed the game but not to be. Not sure what he was trying to do. Seemed caught between kicking and touching the ball down then slipped at the crucial bit?
Did not look like scoring most of second half..
Cannot see a victory at Hull or against Wigan so will be the end of season. Hope I am wrong.
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| Yes, I blame Grix for that last Saint's try, but he also created what was one of the best trys seen at Belle Vue since TJ's against Huddersfield. His catching of the high balls was spot on. Bad mistake, but that the way it goes and we are still fourth.
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| How short is your memory? He left grix out the other week and look what happened! This is the business end of the season no time to experiment, stick with whats got you in this posistion,cant hear anyone saying we should drop hadley for young crowther coz he's a wakey lad, no because chester picks the best team he thinks not what us know alls think.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Well Grix played well throughout the game but made one hell of a mistake there at the end....
....it wasn't a great kick and his hand on top of the ball would have killed the game but not to be. Not sure what he was trying to do. Seemed caught between kicking and touching the ball down then slipped at the crucial bit?
Did not look like scoring most of second half..
Cannot see a victory at Hull or against Wigan so will be the end of season. Hope I am wrong.
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| Grix for me next week and to say he will be over his mistake with a pat on the back just shows how some of our fans are so blinkered. Game next week too crucial to just put Max on the spot
Bet the team are behind Grix 100 per cent
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"How short is your memory? He left grix out the other week and look what happened! This is the business end of the season no time to experiment, stick with whats got you in this posistion,cant hear anyone saying we should drop hadley for young crowther coz he's a wakey lad, no because chester picks the best team he thinks not what us know alls think.'"
Spot on Cheshire.
Everyone is gutted and probably no one more than Grix.
We were poor in the second half, maybe down to having to cover for Hadley being in the bin but, that was just agonising.
Whether to go for the penalty, instead of finding touch, was a massive call and somehow, you just knew that they would score.
Strangely, we are still pretty much where we were, win our next 2 games and we make the semis but, it's a real tough ask, tonight was probably the "easiest" game of the 3.
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| Quote ="trin77"As the title says. Get this wage stealer out now. Total has been. Crap in 2009 worse now. Absolutely criminal error unforgivable.'"
Sorry I'm not having that. I was sat in East stand in line with the line of the kick. It arced cruelly away from the line of his run...that's bloody rugby balls and our luck.
We played nearly a perfect game BUT...two decisions for me cost us the match. Not taking 2 before half time. I KNEW that would come back to bite us on the bum in such a tight game. Then going for 2, 45 metres out under pressure on a bit of breezy night...I didn't llike that decision and wanted us to keep the ball in our hands and push for a repeat set or 2. We are DREADFUL at making these penalty decisions. I think that's the 3rd game it has ended up costing us the match. So frustrating to play so well but lose with schoolboy decisions when you have the ball and time to think.
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| Absolutely astounded by some of the OTT comments posted on here tonight about Grix.
It was only a few weeks ago many were commenting on his excellent performance against Leeds.
The guy made a mistake at a crucial part of a game,a game that lasts eighty minutes and within that eighty minutes many things done by individuals contribute to the final outcome.
Weve had a successful season to date and Grix has played his part in contributing significantly towards that success.
Im sure young Jowitts time will come,but i also think Grix has been overall very good this season.
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| For me, going for the two there near the end is the right call every time in that situation. Yes it was far out, but it wasnt much of an angle, and a goalkicker of Finns capability, was confident it would go over.
I was stood directly behind the posts and when he initally struck it, the kick looked good, think the wind caused it to drift.
What we didnt do was back up the kick. Anyone remember on how Ray Price used to watch penalties, and the Leeds try at Cardiff, in 2007, rebounds leading to tries does happen.
What they SHOULD have done was take the 2 on offer before half time, and shouldnt have been trying to defend an 8 point lead for about 25 minutes.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I think he was caught between two stools. Not quite near enough to boot out but he couldn't get his body right to fall on it.
I hope he scores the winner at Hull.'"
Let's not talk rubbish. There's not a fullback in the league who wouldnt have dealt with that first time, or at least grounded it or put it dead at the second time of asking.
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| Told u months ago grix a liability he made a error a 8 year old would make hes let the club and ths city down tonight. Was a minute to go ffs not ten mins just pat it dead u plonker unforgivable... Sack him
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"For me, going for the two there near the end is the right call every time in that situation. Yes it was far out, but it wasnt much of an angle, and a goalkicker of Finns capability, was confident it would go over.
I was stood directly behind the posts and when he initally struck it, the kick looked good, think the wind caused it to drift.
What we didnt do was back up the kick. Anyone remember on how Ray Price used to watch penalties, and the Leeds try at Cardiff, in 2007, rebounds leading to tries does happen.
What they SHOULD have done was take the 2 on offer before half time, and shouldnt have been trying to defend an 8 point lead for about 25 minutes.'"
Well it was a tough call but "then the wind caused it to drift" was exactly one of the reasons I though don't go for goal, not that I possess clairvoyant powers and foresaw the post hit. I was more worried he would fluff it under pressure and give them possession...the last thing you do with Saints in that position. They are world famous harlem globetrotter game stealers in such situations. Distance isn't Finn's strong suit in goal kicking. The one to take 2 was before half time. I suspected that would bite us on the bum and, as in some other games this season, it did again. Hey ho. I was spitting feathers coming away but the insane comments of some, dragging our team and Grix down, have picked me up. I think we can still do this. As I live in Beverley I shall be attending one of my home games to cheer us on..I hope the team realise the true fans are 100% behind them and Grix plays for me. He might just come good big time if we all GET BEHIND HIM!
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"For me, going for the two there near the end is the right call every time in that situation. Yes it was far out, but it wasnt much of an angle, and a goalkicker of Finns capability, was confident it would go over.
I was stood directly behind the posts and when he initally struck it, the kick looked good, think the wind caused it to drift.
What we didnt do was back up the kick. Anyone remember on how Ray Price used to watch penalties, and the Leeds try at Cardiff, in 2007, rebounds leading to tries does happen.
What they SHOULD have done was take the 2 on offer before half time, and shouldnt have been trying to defend an 8 point lead for about 25 minutes.'"
And the latter point...yes it probably was the wrong call to defend an 8 pt lead for 25 mins...mind you, did you note Reece Lyne played the whole half injured as did Miller...maybe this influenced matters
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| Is there some kind of emperors new clothes thing going on with Grix? He's crap end of. Didn't even want to play fullback was reason he left if I remember rightly. Ignoring bombs, joining the line with 100mph grubbers to nobody. Awesome. That error was criminal at a professional standard, he had an eternity to deal with that kick but has probably blown our season. Other than the other no balls Mathers he's the worse full back I've seen down here Blaymire and Holland weren't awesome but did there jobs unlike this clown. Don't allow a young lad to leave to keep this has been please.
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| Quote ="trin77"Is there some kind of emperors new clothes thing going on with Grix? He's crap end of. Didn't even want to play fullback was reason he left if I remember rightly. Ignoring bombs, joining the line with 100mph grubbers to nobody. Awesome. That error was criminal at a professional standard, he had an eternity to deal with that kick but has probably blown our season. Other than the other no balls Mathers he's the worse full back I've seen down here Blaymire and Holland weren't awesome but did there jobs unlike this clown. Don't allow a young lad to leave to keep this has been please.'"
The line I watched the last kick on, he was going to kick it and it curved away from him right at the last second. He tried to get a hand on it and lost his footing, probably because he was about to kick it when it curved away. I like Max too. At Cas he fielded a really hard bomb that Grix might not have...then in 2nd half he dropped a little chip I could have caught. It led to a try that made no difference. I thnik you need to get a bit of balance here fellow supporter. Grix has made some great runs, run some great lines, given us loads of attacking options and has also been defensively good sometimes...but does have some dodgy moments I will concede. He was damn unlucky at the end from the angle I saw it at
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| Quote ="trin77"Is there some kind of emperors new clothes thing going on with Grix? He's crap end of. Didn't even want to play fullback was reason he left if I remember rightly. Ignoring bombs, joining the line with 100mph grubbers to nobody. Awesome. That error was criminal at a professional standard, he had an eternity to deal with that kick but has probably blown our season. Other than the other no balls Mathers he's the worse full back I've seen down here Blaymire and Holland weren't awesome but did there jobs unlike this clown. Don't allow a young lad to leave to keep this has been please.'"
Most of that is utter horse crap.
He left us in 2010 because he was a free agent.
He went to Huddersfield as a utility back in the season after when Brett Hodgson left for Warrington he established himself as first choice full back.
Our destiny is in our own hands still,you can pick out many occasions over the season that an individuals error has contributed to us not getting a win.Overall his contribution to a relatively successful season has been very good,Im sure young Jowitts time will come,but i also doubt we would still have our destiny in our own hands if Jowitt had been first choice this season rather than Grix and the people that are paid to make those decisions have a hell of a lot more knowledge of the game than you or me.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Overall his contribution to a relatively successful season has been very good,Im sure young Jowitts time will come,but i also doubt we would still have our destiny in our own hands if Jowitt had been first choice this season rather than Grix and the people that are paid to make those decisions have a hell of a lot more knowledge of the game than you or me.'"
This
If Grixy had of handled that ball last night correctly we would have won the match and we'd pretty much be in the semis (oh how I have dreamed of seeing us get there)!
But without grix we'd not be in the great position we are in either, make no mistake the majority of the time he's being excellent for us, unfortunately the defensive mistakes he has made seem to be magnified some how
The droppped bombs at Salford springs to mind
Hopefully we'll get some luck in the coming weeks and it will be forgotten about
God knows we all deserve some luck
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| I did notice that they were struggling, so yes, it could have done.
That then brings the debate back in, why are we having a bench full of forwards. Could have played Brown, with Arundel dropping to bench, or put Williams on the bench
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"No doubt Grix should have booted the ball but he didn't and the rest is history.
Thought he was having a good game up till then. Took every high ball and set up Bill's try.
Starts next game for me.'"
This.
Some very poor comments on twitter last night considering after Tupou I thought Scott was the best player on the field until that crucial error.
Brilliant performance to be proud of as a fan last night which made the result so much harder to take. Don't know if anyone saw Martyn Sadler 's comment but I thought it was very disrespectful.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Told u months ago grix a liability he made a error a 8 year old would make hes let the club and ths city down tonight. Was a minute to go ffs not ten mins just pat it dead u plonker unforgivable... Sack him'"
You are a cretin!
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| Terrible thread - utterly shameful.
4th in SL - having an amazing season and certain cretins want a player sacked?
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| I'm pleased that apart from a couple of posters most realise how good Grix is and how valuable to the team he is.
It happened. Thats big important games or you. We live with it and move on.
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