The club will just have to pay up front.

The loan will be repayable from the Sky money up to the end of the 2014 season - that has to be as we may not be in SL beyond that - but we will!

Anyway, on a serious note....was it cleared up who Daddycool who posts on here is...is he who he says he is, i still have my doubts...

Nobody is expecting you to say everythings "brilliant" as you put it because clearly it is not. However the club have recognised that there is an issue with the outsourcing of the catering and are trying to address it so why be so negative?

Having now met Michael Carter and heard him speak with truth and honesty about the situation, I am willing to believe in him and give him a chance. Let's face it, what other choice do we have? I don't believe for one minute he would be looking to bring the catering back in house if he thought that it wasn't the best way forward and if he didn't have a plan in place to make it work.


He laid it bare last night, and told us what we need to know. The club will now be run to a tight budget and will be run so that expenditure is never greater than income.
We know the budget for playing staff next year, and we also know that if WE (as fans) get off our backsides and contribute that that budget will be increased.
The quality of team we can put out depends entirely on the fans backing the club. 3000 season tickets allows us to run with the budget that has already been set (£1.1M), anything more than that allows us to spend more on players. It's not a difficult equation to understand, back the club and we can move forward, give up and we will end up with a team that just can't compete no matter how much spirit they have.

It's now the choice of the Wakefield fans - DO YOU WANT A SUPER LEAGUE CLUB???

Have we settled our last bill with them then?
I also live in the real world!

Have they suddenly started stocking pies, burgers, pasties & confectionary ?

Kudos if they have...

You can have some peanuts

Yes DC is MC.

I'm sure it's possible, but unlikely.

I think the club are capable of negotiating terms with a pie supplier without our input being required!

From what I have read about last night it might sound bleak but is it any bleaker than the situation at other clubs? Of is the new chairman bang on with his figures?

Many clubs end up unable to pay the bill at the end of the season with chairman having to pump in large sums of money, London, Cas HKR, Hudd, Widnes, Hull the list goes on. If he has projected the figures to avoid another mess, fine with me. I have bought my season ticket, I bought it after my favourite player and key play maker went. If they club asks for £200 to avoid admin due to bad management complain at you will. They are asking for the fans to invest but for season tickets.

Ted Richardson slowly got us into trouble, Adam Glover under estimated the complexities of running a club and it's associated costs. Hopefull AG passing over to MC will give him a true picture with no hidden costs.

If it is proven that not enough people want to support and watch the club now the season tickets are more realistically priced we pretty much know a 1.1m budget doesn't keep us in SL. If that mean lower league rugby if what the city deservers so be it. I support WTW and have done for 49 years and went to my first game 42 years ago. I do not support WTW Super league club. If we played in Wakefield park on a cold sunday morning I would still be there.

Tickets £60 now and then £20 per month so are you Wakefield Till I die?

Thought the comments by MC about Wakey express were a bit ott we have had negative press from these guys before and hurt the club badly. I think we need them on side at the moment to spread the word of our plight.

Attended last night’s meeting , I agree most contributions were informative with no punches pulled . just three topics left me with doubts on clarity , 1st don’t understand the £20000 1873expenditure and why a member of the trust was the main speaker relating to it , I am a big  fan/follower of Wakefield own but I can’t see where that amount as been invested , I know Anderson , Day and Lemming WERE on decent contracts but I wouldn’t have thought  to that extent , ( it’s now in its third year) . 2nd  the  poll on redeveloping  Belle Vue or MOVING TO Newmarket  I just wonder if those investing in the project were looking to pay us to stay at Belle Vue as a cheaper option to them. 3rdThe trust representatives presentation on increasing revenue , in my opinion it was the diehards and hardcore supporters who attended and as such will contribute as much as they can ( I have upgraded to platinum). but to me the question is in which form .should it be in ? a  share issue

To all those both last night and on here that are whinging about Agar signing on, who would you rather have?

Do you really think we would have signed the likes of Smith, Poore, Collis, or Aiton without him? He didn't sign Vince Mellars, Elston did. Sure he signed Isaac John and regardless of what he says about the coach, I watched him play in the reserves and nothing he did said he warranted a place ahead of Smith or Sykes at that time. He didn't tell Frankie Mariano to leave, he was offered 20k more at Cas. If Michael Carter tells a packed room that Frankie Mariano wanted to stay, I don't have any reason to doubt him. If a dad of a current u16's player stands up and tells the room that Richard Agar is fully behind the kids, are we to doubt him?

Cast your mind back to the rugby we played under John Kear. It was like watching paint dry. One out dross. The outside backs never got a look in. Who were our top scorers over the past 2 seasons? Without looking I'd guess at Cockayne and Fox. Over his time in charge sure we've had some rough patches, but the players never gave in. I've enjoyed watching the team, we play exciting rugby and score plenty of points. Granted, this last season we might not have won as many games as we would like, but i'd put that down to the naivety of those on the field not the coaching setup.

I hold my hand up, I wasn't enamored with the appointment of Agar in the first place, mainly because of what Hull FC fans had to say about him. But during his time at the club I have come to appreciate what he brings to the table. To make the 8 last season was beyond anybodies expectations and he should have won coach of the year. The fact that even now in our current predicament, we have blokes who were playing State of Origin 3 years ago publicly stating as long as the coach stays he stays is the biggest compliment you could give the bloke.

I really do despair at times. Listening to some of the moronic comments last night coupled with the snide comments on here makes me wonder what on earth people expect from this club. Is it really any wonder why people won't renew their season tickets? It's time to get real.

Well said, great post.

No need to worry about obtaining food, it will all be sorted. Believe me.

Attended last nights meeting, but could not get past the door, was it mentioned how many platinum season tickets we have sold?.
PS The first thing we should buy is a can of WD40 for the toilet doors, we could hear most until someone went to the loo.

Great meeting enjoyed what I heard.

With respect Victar I wasn't speaking about Club 1873 but urging fans to join and the meeting wasn't specifically about Club 1873.

I don't think the poll on redeveloping Belle Vue was anything other than Michael Carter trying to judge the feeling of fans. As much as we all love Belle Vue the old girl has seen better days and our future, certainly as a Super League Club, lies at Newmarket.

Other ways of raising capital was mentioned last night and we are working on these. The sale of shares was mentioned and that is indeed an option being considered but we are not there yet. Hopefully we will be in a better position in a couple of weeks or so and we will make all that known at the appropriate time.

Elston is moving into the kitchen then ?

Have to admit I was amazed at the level of loss the business has been running at under Glovers stewardship. £ 1.2 million in his first year, £ 500,000 in his second year, and £ 500,000 to date in his third year. So the total debt is £ 2.2 million.
I think Glover was in charge for 32 months, so thats a loss of approx £ 70,000 per month which is a quite staggering figure. Last night I thought I heard that of the £ 2.2 million £ 1.6 was covered by directors loans and that we do not owe the bank a penny and the Inland Revenue are paid up. It was reported last night that Glovers loan was £ 600,000, that means that the other directors have put in a cool million, so well done to Glover for finding other people to put money in. It seems that the RL have loaned additional money which is secured against houses of two of the directors. For me it seens that we have simply been paying far to much to players and for me, the addition of Kath Hetherinton will mean that players agents will not be getting away with ripping the club off anymore. Glover is obviously excellent at running WYW but players and their agents must have had a field day. I came away thinking that the new guys will not risk the survival of the club, they will not spend what we have not got, I went into the meeting wanting to know details of how and why the club had been allowed to be run in such a poor way and realised that that was a pointless exercise, we are where we are, we have people in charge who are willing to give it a go, they have done a very good thing in getting Kath H involved. So onwards and .... where ever it takes us.

Great post, sums up my feelings too!

What's this about staying at BV?!? I didn't go last night.

He just wanted to gauge fans feelings. Nothing more than that.

It depends on what redeveloped actually means. If it was something major ala widnes I would prefer to stay at BV, but a patch up job would be pointless.

Unless a Trinity supporter wins the Euromillions when its £30m or above, Newmarket is the only option with regards to modern facilities.

With about £4-500k in potential ST sales , it seems unbelievable that there is no staff to make the phone calls , what exactly are they doing that is more important? What is Elston doing ATM ?

Lets hope kath H has a bit more business sense.