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| Quote ="youngcat"Sorry but the bod and nobody else got us into this mess. It isn't the RFL who aren't turning up at Belle Vue - its the fans. It isn't the RFL who have transformed a great ground into the worst in SL. It isn't the RFL who have failed to pay its tax bill 3 times in less than a year. The maximum 6 point penalty depends upon what amount of debt the new owners are prepared to take on. No carried over debt means 6 points.
We are all upset, rightly so with todays events, but we have to look at our selves first.. We got our selves into this mess and nobody else.
Hopefully this is our lowest point, we have got rid off the existing management of the club. We are for the chop, but we can rebuild and come back stronger. We won't be the first or the last team to do this.
We must first though accept we have made huge mistakes and learn from them. it is pointless blaming anybody else for our downfall and it does nothing to help our future survival.'"
No one is arguing its the past managements fault we have ended up in the position we are. The problem is that we do not seem to be treated the same as Crusaders were. I repeat other than Hauraki who else did they have to sell whilst in admin? Answer no-one.
You can't tell me had the administrators made the likes of sammut, witt and withers available clubs would not have been interested. Oh and it was the same administrators and HMRC got shafted - the same HMRC who are now our biggest creditor and are no doubt the ones that players are being sold to appease.
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| TOTALLY agree Tricky - its the way Crusaders and Trinity have been so differently treated -. The RFL should hang their heads in shame!! There is no doubt that Steve Parkin eas intimated this info before he pulled out. Its just like the club is being raped before our very eyes and we cannot do a thing about it. I have watched Wakefield since 1960 and I am heartbroken at what is going on. We, the supporters, can just go to hell as far as the RFL are concerned. Just how can other clubs stand by and say nowt when they see the double standards!!! Remember all clubs helping Bradford Northern out decades ago when they were on the points of going under - now its just a case of I,m alright Jack and stuff you. RFL ANS SL HAVE A LOT TO ANSWER FOR!!!!!
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| Add to that schifcofske as well.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"No one is arguing its the past managements fault we have ended up in the position we are. The problem is that we do not seem to be treated the same as Crusaders were. I repeat other than Hauraki who else did they have to sell whilst in admin? Answer no-one.
You can't tell me had the administrators made the likes of sammut, witt and withers available clubs would not have been interested. Oh and it was the same administrators and HMRC got shafted - the same HMRC who are now our biggest creditor and are no doubt the ones that players are being sold to appease.'"
I do not know if you can compare the situation with hauraki as it was rumoured the Giants offered £50 K and he went to Leeds for a lot more than that.
I would doubt that any of the Wakefield players being signed are going for anywhere near that.
Despite that i would agree with the point that the RFL were more concerned with helping out Crusaders than they have been with helping wakey.
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www.giantsrl.com/news/article/gi ... on-capture
signed a 2 and a half year deal late last night, i would expect more departures in the next couple of days, 2 of our prize assets in 2 days, are we going to have a team to take to France !!!!
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signed a 2 and a half year deal late last night, i would expect more departures in the next couple of days, 2 of our prize assets in 2 days, are we going to have a team to take to France !!!!
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| Quote ="scudley"www.giantsrl.com/news/article/giants-confirm-ferguson-capture
signed a 2 and a half year deal late last night, i would expect more departures in the next couple of days, 2 of our prize assets in 2 days, are we going to have a team to take to France !!!!'"
I really hope we don't. The more damage we do to the credibility of RL from now on the better !!!!!
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| wonder if the murphey rumor is true?
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| terrible news. Shameful ! Screw yourself shudds !
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| As you say, The next 2 days will see at least 2 more go.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"terrible news. Shameful ! Screw yourself shudds !'"
Not Shudds fault, we've done it in the past.
If you can't post sensibly don't bother.
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| Quote ="nicksapheno"wonder if the murphey rumor is true?'"
yes and another !!!!
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"As you say, The next 2 days will see at least 2 more go.'"
2 at least, a shambles at the mo, but we are not the first club it has happened to and we wont be the last im afraid, RL is moving more like football club's once upon a time you had to be a Millionaire to buy a club now you have to be a Billionaire and unless you have money men in the Club you will fall by the wayside as you see at Wakefield....
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| Quote ="nicksapheno"wonder if the murphey rumor is true?'"
Unfortunately it is!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Not Shudds fault, we've done it in the past.
If you can't post sensibly don't bother.'"
Unfortunately, Sense is something this poster seems to have allowed out of his head in the last few days. It seems everyone is to blame but the club itself.
And as said, You got Danny Brough from Cas on the cheap, As we couldnt guarantee him SL after the NL season, And i am sure many more besides. Business is Business, There is no room for sentiment.
Fwiw, I would think Hudds would look at loaning you one of their squad who may not get a game, To replace Dale for a month or so, If i was in charge at Wakey, I would be looking to do that.
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| Quote ="cool4kats"the vermin that is comanly know as administrtor is in the procces of selling fergi to hudesfied along with aron murphy this is the company that is sapous to be helping insted they are tring to sell of as meany of our player to the rl comunaty god help us'" No the vermin as you put it are actually trying to recoup as much money for the poor saps you are going to leave short as possible before you get to pay them 10p in the £.
This is how administration works and this is what most of you wanted so how can you now complain?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"No the vermin as you put it are actually trying to recoup as much money for the poor saps you are going to leave short as possible before you get to pay them 10p in the £.
This is how administration works and this is what most of you wanted so how can you now complain?'"
i agree, many on here thought it was the salvation of the club, we shouldnt complain, it was inevitable, the HMRC wont let go !!!
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Unfortunately, Sense is something this poster seems to have allowed out of his head in the last few days. It seems everyone is to blame but the club itself.
And as said, You got Danny Brough from Cas on the cheap, As we couldnt guarantee him SL after the NL season, And i am sure many more besides. Business is Business, There is no room for sentiment.
Fwiw, I would think Hudds would look at loaning you one of their squad who may not get a game, To replace Dale for a month or so, If i was in charge at Wakey, I would be looking to do that.'"
We will maybe need a coupe of fringe first team players from SL clubs just to cover our fixtures, want fans wouldn't give to have JD back now ??? we need players with hearts like lions now more than ever.....
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| Ouch, I must say this must be gutwtenching especially after good news on Friday and getting season underway!
Interesting comparison with Cru (though yes will have been treated differently) is SKY money? Cru had an advance on there's to help debt and wages etc so although needs covering at the end of year helped during admin process.
Have Wakefield already had SKY money? Has it been used up already?
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| Quote ="wakeytom"But the main creditor was the RFL, and it appears that it was agreed prior to their admin that the new owners would take over their main debt ie RFL so the admin did not have to strip the club bare as the other debts would have been secondary to this I would suspect, it been the largest.'" With the greatest of respect they also had the ground to mortgage to secure the debt you dont have that situation.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"www.ohara.co.uk/news.htm'"
Taken from the above link
This will enable the Club to continue playing in the Super League to the end of the 2011 season, although there is serious doubt as to whether the Club will be granted a Licence to continue after that date, in line with Rugby League regulations.
Which regulations are those then??????
I find it odd that an administrator would pass comment on a process it has no involvement with.
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| This is breaking my heart. How can the rfl allow a founder member to be treated like this. We all know they dont want us in SL but to (seemingly) try and force us into extinction is beyond anything ive ever witnessed. Its like something out of a movie.
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| Isn't one of the aims of the administrators to keep a concern running effectively so that income can be generated. This is rape of a club. Destroying all its main assets. How many people are going to come and watch half a team try to struggle along this season, therefore even less income. RFL hang your bloody heads in shame!!!! You have successfully driven a heartbroken supporter away from a sport I have watched for 50 years _ WELL DONE.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"terrible news. Shameful ! Screw yourself shudds !'"
so you never go shopping in the sales?... you would rather pay full price?
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