Not being funny mate, but you are really on the edge of libel there, basically your accusing them of corruption

Its only libellous if not true!

It's libelous unless you have evidence to support your claims. Do you? Or is your perceived evidence the figment of your imagination?

Well feck me he must own nearly half of your club.

Hands up, i cant find it, please explain again,

So it's quite clear what a lot of us have known for a long time is as good as confirmed. The Glasshoughton project is on it's behind without the involvement of us. Lets keep on track with the Stanley project, by the sounds of it Castleford will be the ones to come begging. Even if Stanley is delayed we should have Barnsley as backup until the that time comes.

Bang on mate. Box is bent he has being ruining our City for years

As it happens, I know someone who does!

(Definition of Corruption - lack of integrity or honesty)
(One aspect of integrity is - keeping ones words and agreements)
Se where this going? Don't think we would have much problem in proving this where Mr Box is concerned.

whats going on, cas and wakey fans do not know. I feel sorry for both set of fans. Does any one give a feck a part from the fans. My head is done in with this

Simple solution:Assassinate Box.

Job sorted.

So just supposing that Yorkcourt do get planning permission (When?). They will pay out 15/20million pounds for a Stadium plus infrastructure before they have even sold or let a single industrial unit?. No chance in this economic climate. Yorkcourt's own development at Paragon is only 50% finished after how many years?. There are plenty of Industrail units in the Wakefield area empty now!

The idea is to borrow the money against the land - it's the same for both proposals. That way the debt still belongs to the scheme and has to be re-paid over time - thus costing the tax-payer nothing.

Both schemes will need this land to fulfil any business plans.

I smell a rat here! Alf is it????

Borrow from who - the banks will not lend on the promise of nothing!

Yep Bigalf

Because as I see it its not fully funded by the developer. The developer in return for planning consent for the whole development would put a significant sum into the Community Stadium. The Community Trust would be able to access funding from the Sports Council etc. and with the land placed into the Trust be able to borrow sufficient to be able to build the Stadium. Hence the comments that the Stadium is fully funded and requires no funding from the Council.

On the other hand Glasshoughton is nowhere near having the required funding in place. Wheldon Road cannot be sold because of the blast zone and it is not even zoned for housing yet although that will come. The land is available via Waystone and there is talk of Surfworld contributing to one stand but how definite this is I have no idea. It seems to me that all Castleford have is the ability to borrow money against the land that the Council would put forward which is no where near the £15m or so that will be required.

So we have a Community Stadium proposed for Newmarket that does not have a planning consent but has funding and we have a proposed stadium which will be owned by Castleford Tigers that has outline consent but insufficient funding. Being a private venture it cannot access the same funding that a Community Trust can. It will only work if the funding the developer was to put into Newmarket is chanelled into Glasshoughton.

So bit of a conundrum. Bring both together and you have the answer a Community Stadium at either Newmarket or Glasshoughton and there lies the problem. There is no way on this earth that there will be 2 Stadiums 6 miles appart - there will be one and possibly none.

Where should the Stadium be. Its too late to look at somewhere like Normanton so its Newmarket or Glasshoughton.

Glasshoughton is a great location but only for Castleford. If we groundshare there it will be the death of Wakefield Trinity. How can a business grow when it plays in an area with an already established Club.

Castleford fans wont accept Newmarket as they perceive it to be Wakefield despite it being equidistant from Castleford Town Centre and Wakefield City Centre. The planning issue can be overcome with the support of the Council but only if they give it their full support.

The Council will push for a groundshare and in my opinion that will be at Glasshoughton. Politicians generally do things that please their voters so its an easy political decision. Wakefield will oppose and continue to push Newmarket which without Council support will fail.

So what will be the end result ? I wish I knew but I certainly fear for the future of Wakefield Trinity and possibly Castleford. We could both end up in the NL and some would accept this rather than give in.

There needs to be some serious talking and the M word will undoubtably be mentioned which may be an option although unpalatable for some but it may be the only way to keep Super League in the Wakefield District.

TRB at what point is councillor Box be deemed to have a conflict of interest in any decisions made,

surely he can't be allowed to make a decision on his own or have we now got a dictatorship in Wakefield

Ok its just that some of the posts are indicating that it was fully funded by yorkcourt, which obviously is wrong, thanks for that

After reading all this it sounds to me that Box knows that Trinity only need planning permission and then the ground is a done deal,where as Cas need money to get their stadium built.It looks as if Box is trying to push for trinity to ground share at Glasshoughton,to get his beloved Cas Tigers a stadium,for him to suggest this it would make him look as dodgy as .To be honest Box should be no where near either projects because of his total lack of impartiality.

Ah!! I see who you think I may be, because I mentioned empty industrial units. Sorry, but I'm not the person you suspect, just a Cas fan of many years who tries to look at this whole situtation objectively (as I possibly can) but have to say I believe the Wildcats have been led up the garden path. No disrespect but I do believe Glasshoughton is the answer for Cas, and maybe the Wildcats, if your fans want it.

Glasshoughton is no answer for Wakey - unless the question is 'can we think of a way to a slow painful death for the club'.

Dont think i am against wake and a stadium, but the problem you have got is that the council has to follow these guidelines

Under the Town and Country Planning Acts there is a presumption in favour of development. However within the Green Belt this situation is reversed and there is a general presumption against inappropriate development. Such development should not be approved, except in very special circumstances.

Inappropriate development is by definition harmful to the Green Belt. Very special circumstances will not exist unless the harm by reason of inappropriateness, and any other harm to the Green Belt, is clearly outweighed by other considerations. This is a tough test and it is for the applicant to show why permission should be granted. Whilst it is for the local planning authority to judge the special circumstances being put forward it would be unreasonable to give weight to a matter which national policy is unlikely to view as a very special circumstance. For example the fact that something can or cannot be seen should not be a determining factor. Planning applications for inappropriate development will, therefore, by their very nature, conflict with the development plan and if the Council wishes to grant permission the proposal must be treated as a departure from the development plan and referred to the Secretary of State.

That will cost a small fortune, believe me, and i has to be bourne by the developer in the first instance, they may get recompensed if the enquirery is sucessful, but its not always that way, Ive been involved pesonally with one of these and it is a long drawn out issue,

I know for a fact that Neil has bent Box's ear more than once regarding this issue.

From someone who doesn't live in Wakefield, I just find it unbelievable, and particularly in the wake of the Thornes Park fiasco.

I'm glad I don't pay my council tax to keep that clown in a job, and I would struggle to support Wakefield at Glasshoughton because of the way in which it would have come about. It is starting to stink, and am I right in thinking that the delays are trying to force Wakefield's hand.

i can see where your coming from and i think the same in the opposite direction