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| Quote ="PopTart"
But more recently, there wouldn't be a stadium without Minnards.
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I see it another way, there would not be the ground in the possession of the club without the council loaning £3.1M which in reality is the money belonging to me and every other tax payer in WMDC.
There would not be the money for Minards to build a stand without WMDC ensuring 106 Payments were made available to do so. Again money indirectly out of the pockets of WMDC tax payers.
(By the way if WMDC had done their job right in the first place we would have had far more than a stand and a slight refurbishment.)
So Technically it all belongs to the club thanks to us Tax payers. Morally I don't think it should benefit Carter and Minards in anyway whatsoever.
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| I suppose wouldn’t have been a stadium without Amazon either.
Be interesting how this pans out from here on in. Because if it comes out in the wash that a deal fell through due to unreasonable obstacles being put in the way by the current incumbents then natives are going to get very restless thats for sure. Lets hope it works itself out.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You can't lump Carter and Minnards together. Or the other two shareholders for that matter.
There wouldn't be a club without Carter but I get some don't like his budgeting
But more recently, there wouldn't be a stadium without Minnards.
Good grief how are you still being taken in by their utter crap, this is the future of our club were talking about but you still peddle he's the messiah line, get a grip of yourself
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| Can i ask who matthew ellis is
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| Quote ="PopTart"You can't lump Carter and Minnards together. Or the other two shareholders for that matter.
There wouldn't be a club without Carter but I get some don't like his budgeting
But more recently, there wouldn't be a stadium without Minnards.
You need to be more accurate with your vitriol.'" I'm lumping them together they need to go the club is a complete shambles
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| I guess these comment are the ideal way so no one wants the club.
Everyone who puts their hand up and hard erned income for trin deserves respect
If a new owner does read all this vitriol dont people think it might put him off putting his hand up to help.
worth a thought folk.
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| It doesn't add up to me, hope it isn't true.
It's never easy, is it?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Can i ask who matthew ellis is'"
CEO / Owner of D.I.Y. Kitchens i think
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I see it another way, there would not be the ground in the possession of the club without the council loaning £3.1M which in reality is the money belonging to me and every other tax payer in WMDC.
There would not be the money for Minards to build a stand without WMDC ensuring 106 Payments were made available to do so. Again money indirectly out of the pockets of WMDC tax payers.
(By the way if WMDC had done their job right in the first place we would have had far more than a stand and a slight refurbishment.)
So Technically it all belongs to the club thanks to us Tax payers. Morally I don't think it should benefit Carter and Minards in anyway whatsoever.'"
It doesn't benefit them.
But even Carter says Minnards is responsible for the negotiations to get all those things you mention.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It doesn't benefit them.
But even Carter says Minnards is responsible for the negotiations to get all those things you mention.'"
Rubbish it was non negotiable if WMDC had done their job from the outset. He just happened to be around in the right place at the right time. I have used this phrase before, " He managed to salvage a few crumbs that was left behind by the rats" WE have something but been drastically short changed big Style.
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| Quote ="suportrclub"I guess these comment are the ideal way so no one wants the club.
Everyone who puts their hand up and hard erned income for trin deserves respect
If a new owner does read all this vitriol dont people think it might put him off putting his hand up to help.
worth a thought folk.'"
What a load of rubbish! If a new owner only wants his ego stroking 24/7 then maybe owning a sports club isn't for them in the first place?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Rubbish it was non negotiable if WMDC had done their job from the outset. He just happened to be around in the right place at the right time. I have used this phrase before, " He managed to salvage a few crumbs that was left behind by the rats" WE have something but been drastically short changed big Style.'"
Exactly. And they didn't do what they should have done, and certainly Yorkcourt didnt.
So he isnt single handedly the one who got the stadium built. A lot of people are on that list. Some are on here. But he got it to bricks and seats rather than an argument about who is to blame.
You can say what you like but that's how I see it.
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| I’m not on FB, can someone explain what’s gone on. Cheers.
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| Have we got any dirt on this Ellis guy yet or are we waiting for him to take over?
If he's got any sense and reads SM he'll steer well clear.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"I’m not on FB, can someone explain what’s gone on. Cheers.'"
Lino's signed for Leeds, Jowitt for Hull KR and a Brazilian (man not a pube cut) and Kitchen Millionaire a fighting over Trinity but MC and JM won't let go because they'll miss the adulation and kudos that comes with running our Toxic club.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"I’m not on FB, can someone explain what’s gone on. Cheers.'"
Matthew Ellis who owns a kitchen company and has a shed load of money is rumoured to be taking over.
But Facebook thinks Carter is now blocking it, even though we asked him to come in.
So who knows.
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| Can't see why the loan from the council wouldn't stand with the club post takeover. Ultimately the directors loans are worth nothing in reality. No takeover and they sit there ever diminishing in value. Minards is a fan at heart so I can't see him blocking anything if it moves the club forward. MC kept the club going back in 2012 to get out what he put in IIRC so that may hold some truth.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Exactly. And they didn't do what they should have done, and certainly Yorkcourt didnt.
So he isnt single handedly the one who got the stadium built. A lot of people are on that list. Some are on here. But he got it to bricks and seats rather than an argument about who is to blame.
You can say what you like but that's how I see it.'"
That's a more accurate assessment. But listening to some people they forget history and make it out its all down to JC and MC. I also agree he steered through the project to its present state. I know we will never know ,but even if Ted or Glover had WMDC on board during their tenure , they would have most likely have delivered too.
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| The ink hasn’t even dried on the documents yet ,and all hell has broken loose …supposedly, storm in a tea cup and nothing more than a few details to be sorted out I’d say ,more that people purposely putting obstacles in the way of any take over . Just like players contract and the like ,all this will be going on behind closed doors and will be private and confidential until such times as said parties are happy to go public . We’ve more than enough to worry about on the pitch without worrying about something out of any of our control,unless of course anyone on here is coming in with a late bid for the club ?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"That's a more accurate assessment. But listening to some people they forget history and make it out its all down to JC and MC. I also agree he steered through the project to its present state. I know we will never know ,but even if Ted or Glover had WMDC on board during their tenure , they would have most likely have delivered too.
Not too sure about that with all the debt the club owed , couldn’t see all the creditors and the inland revenue letting them put a breeze block in place before all debts were payed , maybe and orangery or two !
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| Quote ="Kettykat"The ink hasn’t even dried on the documents yet ,and all hell has broken loose …supposedly, storm in a tea cup and nothing more than a few details to be sorted out I’d say ,more that people purposely putting obstacles in the way of any take over . Just like players contract and the like ,all this will be going on behind closed doors and will be private and confidential until such times as said parties are happy to go public . We’ve more than enough to worry about on the pitch without worrying about something out of any of our control,unless of course anyone on here is coming in with a late bid for the club ?'"
Well Ketty, let's hope it all happens. If so I am sure many of the problems on the pitch will go away. However I am a realist and the way the team has been run down mostly down to lousy recruitment, it could be a big ask for anyone to keep us safe so deep into the season.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Well Ketty, let's hope it all happens. If so I am sure many of the problems on the pitch will go away. However I am a realist and the way the team has been run down mostly down to lousy recruitment, it could be a big ask for anyone to keep us safe so deep into the season.'"
I’ll be honest I think we will have to drop down to have a clear out ,as I can’t see us winning enough games with our current squad and coach .. unless of course things with IMG turn out differently and we qualify to keep up by some other means .
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Lino's signed for Leeds, Jowitt for Hull KR and a Brazilian (man not a pube cut) and Kitchen Millionaire a fighting over Trinity but MC and JM won't let go because they'll miss the adulation and kudos that comes with running our Toxic club.'"
What about a Brazilian Butt lift??
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Yes but who turned us into a toxic club
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"What about a Brazilian Butt lift??'"
A question better posed to Corey Norman, peut-etre?
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