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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Sorry but I just don't see it. Too many times the first receiver has to jump or crouch for the ball. He makes a couple of good runs from dummy half and everything else is forgotten. Seriously, I'm sure some fans think he's the next Cameron Smith. It's a toss up between him and Crowther, and Crowther isn't a hooker either. Even Toulouse have got four better hookers than Kay. If we go with the same again then we're asking for trouble.'"
Well all i can say is, if Toulouse have got four better hookers, it hasn't done them much good, has it?!
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| I'm thinking he means 'far' better hookers
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"He made a couple of goods runs, but his distribution is woeful and he's an easy target in defence. We need to invest in another 9 just as much as we need props.'"
Not sure about any of that tbh...
But, we are all entitled to our opinion...........
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm thinking he means 'far' better hookers'"
Ahh i see, is that like the two ronnies fork handles/four candles thing?!!
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| We 100% need a new 9, no question. No offence to Hood as he gives 100% but he's not got the running game the modern game needs from a hooker. It's probably the most important position on the pitch from an attacking perspective, whether that's a running game or distribution. If that first pass is slightly behind, above, in front of Miller / Lino the whole move falls apart. I know Crowther isn't a natural 9 so I'm not blaming him but our distribution / passing yesterday when attacking the Hull line was woeful for a professional SL side.
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| Quote ="wakefield1990"We 100% need a new 9, no question. No offence to Hood as he gives 100% but he's not got the running game the modern game needs from a hooker. It's probably the most important position on the pitch from an attacking perspective, whether that's a running game or distribution. If that first pass is slightly behind, above, in front of Miller / Lino the whole move falls apart. I know Crowther isn't a natural 9 so I'm not blaming him but our distribution / passing yesterday when attacking the Hull line was woeful for a professional SL side.'"
Well there is actually, because no we don't.
We 100% need a new 9 Even I'm not that bombastic, Try 'In my opinion' as a caveat in future, softens the blow a bit.
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| Quote ="vastman"Well there is actually, because no we don't.
We 100% need a new 9
Even I'm not that bombastic, Try 'In my opinion' as a caveat in future, softens the blow a bit.'"
It really makes me chuckle when you say things like 'even I'm not'. Self awareness training could be handy after your diversity training.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It really makes me chuckle when you say things like 'even I'm not'. Self awareness training could be handy after your diversity training.
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No PT that's total self awareness. You've never got Vastman have you. I the author knows exactly what Vastman is and why he does what he does, he's a construct or a character, you chose, not a real person. It's the oldest trick in the book, most newspapers have these creations, Black Dog in the Mail as an example, though clearly I'm not suggesting old Vasty is that exulted.
If I were posting as me I'd be far more reasonable but extremely boring and ineffectual I can assure you. Though you'd probably like the tweedy me
On that recent conversation, I'm nearly ready, just suddenly hotted up a bit so postponed slightly. Your carefree future is nearly here
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| Quote ="vastman"
On that recent conversation, I'm nearly ready, just suddenly hotted up a bit so postponed slightly. Your carefree future is nearly here
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I get Vastman. I don't understand it though.
If you meet me somewhere I'm exactly Poptart. But it's a choice I do like a lot of what you say (just not always how you say it)
As for the last bit. If only you could solve all my other irritations on here to give me a carefree future.
Fun fact: only the Wigan board has more permanently banned users than us.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm thinking he means 'far' better hookers'"
I definitely meant four.
Nathan Peats
Elvis Pellisier
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I definitely meant four.
Nathan Peats
Elvis Pellisier
James Cunningham
Lloyd White'"
Apologies
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I definitely meant four.
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White has retired through injury I think I read somewhere.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"White has retired through injury I think I read somewhere.'"
I didn't know that, I thought he was still there. I assumed he'd been injured as four hookers did seem excessive.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I definitely meant four.
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=#FF0000Elvis Pellisier
James Cunningham
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Aaaha, Aaaha.....
It's Elois
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| Going into next season with Hood and Kaye wouldn't be the worst scenario. That been said I think both are replaceable. I like both Cunningham and Pellisier at Toulouse and would happily swap one of them for 1 of Hood or Kaye.
But there probably there or there abouts with all of them having strengths and weaknesses.
We are far weaker in other positions. So probably quite far down the priority list.
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| Quote ="vastman"No PT that's total self awareness. You've never got Vastman have you. I the author knows exactly what Vastman is and why he does what he does, he's a construct or a character, you chose, not a real person. It's the oldest trick in the book, most newspapers have these creations, Black Dog in the Mail as an example, though clearly I'm not suggesting old Vasty is that exulted.
If I were posting as me I'd be far more reasonable but extremely boring and ineffectual I can assure you. Though you'd probably like the tweedy me
On that recent conversation, I'm nearly ready, just suddenly hotted up a bit so postponed slightly. Your carefree future is nearly here
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| It’s beyond me why leeds have let Dwyer go ,they obviously didn’t see the value of him , personally I’d have locked the lad into a decent term contact, as I don’t think I’ve seen him have a bad game . Speed is essential for me in the hooking role and whilst Hood can barge himself over when near the line he’s definitely not the fastest in the game ,and scoots from dummy half aren’t high in his priority for obvious reasons . With youngBowes he’s still learning his trade and hopefully will be a valuable member of the squad in time ,as I’ve not seen him let the side down when given the chance ,but is work in progress for me and needs to brought in steadily , or dare I say loaned out to get him the game time . I don’t get hung up on this home grown thing , I want what’s best for the club , homegrown or not , but I do think the times I’ve seen him he’s certainly got it , obviously time will tell .
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| Re talk of TO players, anybody got any idea what the lad at fullback will be doing next season?
Played ok when we had him,Asholl-Bott, I think.Looks a good prospect.
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| More full backs, next thing will be suggestions of bringing Hampshire back
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| Quote ="FOREVERTRIN"Re talk of TO players, anybody got any idea what the lad at fullback will be doing next season?
Played ok when we had him,Asholl-Bott, I think.Looks a good prospect.'"
His partner plays soccer in Germany? now she is a superstar he may stay with TO to be within EU for proximity
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| Quote ="1873"His partner plays soccer in Germany? now she is a superstar he may stay with TO to be within EU for proximity'"
She also plays for England and is a Euro 2022 winner!
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| Thanks 1873,you've jogged my memory, and I remember her being highlighted in the crowd at a match.
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| Manuel,I think it will be more like a clamour than a suggestion to bring back Rocky.Not from me though, that ship's sailed I'm afraid.
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| INOUT Quote ="Manuel"More full backs, next thing will be suggestions of bringing Hampshire back
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Did it ever stop?
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