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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I was thinking mainly of the forwards.
England (never recovered from injury)
Huby (ditto)
Hirst (I liked him but was borderline SL at best)
Anakin (local fave but never quite made it)
None of these would get a look in this year.
We have not really replaced Pauli in that we have two NRL spots left rather than in terms of his ability or lack of.
In terms of size and power we nudged down a bit but as far as I can see in terms of work rate and durability we've gone up quite a lot. As I say its a bit early but we look a younger, fitter more resilient outfit than last year. We got no breaks against Cas in terms of two serious injuries and one very dubious sin bin but we bounced back a week later which we weren't doing last year.'"
Yeah agree with all that but I think though that Tanginoa is the direct upgrade to Pauli - probably the area we've made most improvement tbh!
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Some of the signings we made this season came with some reservations.
Most notable was Westerman who I feared may have been after a final pay. So far more than so good, added some real class, not totally on the same wave length as the rest of the team just yet but getting closer every game.
Ryan Atkins looked the most committed player on the park on Sunday, lost his pace but he’s still strong and clearly wants to play.
Naveretta??? He looked far too small when I first saw him but has a big heart and despite his size always seems to beat the first man, I like him far more than I thought I would.
Along with Green, Tangata, Pitts, Walker and Tanganoa there doesn’t look a poor signing amongst them, well not so far anyway. Sorry if I forgot anyone.
We’ve missed Fifita and Arona but nowhere near as much as I expected. Some real competition in that pack when they are fit.'"
I actually thought Naverette was poor in the first three games so hopefully we’ll now see some of the potential he showed at Catalans. I prefer Tanginoa in the back row, but he’s also been our best prop forward recently as well. Tough call who to drop for Arona this week.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"I actually thought Naverette was poor in the first three games so hopefully we’ll now see some of the potential he showed at Catalans. I prefer Tanginoa in the back row, but he’s also been our best prop forward recently as well. Tough call who to drop for Arona this week.'"
He was our best forward on Sunday.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"He was our best forward on Sunday.'"
That’s good to hear. How did Crowther go? My guess is that he’ll be the one who makes way for Arona.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"That’s good to hear. How did Crowther go? My guess is that he’ll be the one who makes way for Arona.'"
Crowther went ok, got through his tackling. Took a knock and went off for a head test IIRC.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"That’s good to hear. How did Crowther go? My guess is that he’ll be the one who makes way for Arona.'"
Never went ok. Crowther is your ultimate steady developer. He’s not an automatic choice just yer imho but I reckon he will be one day.
Comparing players isn’t generally fair but in this case it is. A few years ago Crowther was totally eclipsed by Batchelor who looked a world beater. Now Crowther looks the better prospect. There is time for Batchelor to kick on but he needs to because there is a lot of competition in that back row and my money is now on Crowther.
For now though a fit Arona trumps both of them.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Yeah I was a bit "meh" when we signed J Wood but he's been great. Ferocious tackler and like a trufflepig when he goes for the line. From what Ive seen so far, definite upgrade on Randell'"
Harsh on Randall I’d say, took the brunt of the attack in the first half of games so woody could exploit the tiring defences .Thought as a team we were at our most productive with this combo, now we have woody up first and so far not as affective with big men running at him in the first half’s.No getting away from his defence so far, would like to see Them swap around and him out in first half were his defence would be an advantage and see if it helps woody’s game.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Harsh on Randall I’d say, took the brunt of the attack in the first half of games so woody could exploit the tiring defences .Thought as a team we were at our most productive with this combo, now we have woody up first and so far not as affective with big men running at him in the first half’s.No getting away from his defence so far, would like to see Them swap around and him out in first half were his defence would be an advantage and see if it helps woody’s game.'"
Think Randell got quite a bit of unfair flack by some. Granted, I dont think we quite got the best out of him. I think having such a good debut, and early games, couldn't maintain it. Also had rotten luck with injuries during his time with us. These weren't little niggles, these were serious ones.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Think Randell got quite a bit of unfair flack by some. Granted, I dont think we quite got the best out of him. I think having such a good debut, and early games, couldn't maintain it. Also had rotten luck with injuries during his time with us. These weren't little niggles, these were serious ones.'"
My only criticism of Randell was the needless penalties he gave away that put us on the back foot. Just two that spring to mind where the opposition scored off the next set were a spear tackle at Cas just after Fifita had opened the scoring giving them the yards and then similar at London in that opening game when we were something to nil up. Having him and Kirmond on the pitch at the same time was frustrating as hell.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Harsh on Randall I’d say, took the brunt of the attack in the first half of games so woody could exploit the tiring defences .Thought as a team we were at our most productive with this combo, now we have woody up first and so far not as affective with big men running at him in the first half’s.No getting away from his defence so far, would like to see Them swap around and him out in first half were his defence would be an advantage and see if it helps woody’s game.'"
Oh yeah I dont think Randell was bad for us and appreciate what he did in terms of the hard work, but I just think so far JW is better at it, hits harder and more of a threat near the line.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Harsh on Randall I’d say, took the brunt of the attack in the first half of games so woody could exploit the tiring defences .Thought as a team we were at our most productive with this combo, now we have woody up first and so far not as affective with big men running at him in the first half’s.No getting away from his defence so far, would like to see Them swap around and him out in first half were his defence would be an advantage and see if it helps woody’s game.'"
Must agree with that Kettykat.
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| Woods no way as good as Randel . He could play 80 mins if asked .So allowing forwards to have better rest . And faster of the mark
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| Quote ="alegend"Woods no way as good as Randel . He could play 80 mins if asked .So allowing forwards to have better rest . And faster of the mark'"
Couldn’t agree less, Woody is the more talented player imo. Wood is as tough as old boots even though his boy band appearance states the opposite. Funny how Randell, now that he has left is gaining reputation he never had whilst at the club.
Truth is that after a stunning start Randell was fairly ordinary. He’d have been referred to as a ‘journeyman, had he been British.
Very Trinity that he is now being used to beat down players who have offered the club far far more over the year, one of those being Wood.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Couldn’t agree less, Woody is the more talented player imo. Wood is as tough as old boots even though his boy band appearance states the opposite. Funny how Randell, now that he has left is gaining reputation he never had whilst at the club.
Truth is that after a stunning start Randell was fairly ordinary. He’d have been referred to as a ‘journeyman, had he been British.
Very Trinity that he is now being used to beat down players who have offered the club far far more over the year, one of those being Wood.'"
Thought that Randall and Wood complimented each other really well.
Yes, Randall suffered from having such a great debut, those 2 try's at Salford were superb. However, before his first injury, he was offering plenty but, never really seemed to recover his form when he came back.
Maybe this was just his own form suffering or, maybe it was the majority of the side that had dropped off a bit in form.
Having said that, Wood is Mr Consistency and has been for a number of seasons.
I thing that Josh Wood is an excellent player too, just as it is with some of our other forwards, he seems to be an improvement on what we had and he seems to hit really hard in defence. He doesn't look to have the same "scoot" as Kyle Wood but, he's doing pretty well so far.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Couldn’t agree less, Woody is the more talented player imo. Wood is as tough as old boots even though his boy band appearance states the opposite. Funny how Randell, now that he has left is gaining reputation he never had whilst at the club.
Truth is that after a stunning start Randell was fairly ordinary. He’d have been referred to as a ‘journeyman, had he been British.
Very Trinity that he is now being used to beat down players who have offered the club far far more over the year, one of those being Wood.'"
I think you are both mixing up your Woods.
The only problem with Randall for me was when he wasn't on the field. He clearly played with injuries too when we needed him.
When he played injury free he was a significant impact on the game. Big in defence and had a lot of speed in his game too.
Josh Wood will be good I think but he has development in him yet.
Kyle Wood I like a lot and is under rated he's just a different style to the other two. He can do the defence but when he does it takes something away from the rest of his game so better to have someone taking the heat first.
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| Just like to add that I cant ever remember Our squad looking so strong right the way through, with no disrespect to people who have gone before and put their bodies on the line ,this is the most complete squad I think I’ve ever seen.
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| Always thought Randell was a very good hooker for us, he just seemed to miss too many games for a quota player.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Always thought Randell was a very good hooker for us, he just seemed to miss too many games for a quota player.'"
I didn't really rate him, he was ok but crocked a lot of the time. He was ok on both side of the ball, with the occasional great performance. So far I think J Wood looks better in defence and more of a threat near the line, but time will tell.
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| Personally an improvement on randall who started well got niggly injuries but then gave away too many pens no ideas on 5th play and passing from acting half woeful pleased to free up his quota spot pity we havent yet
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| Quote ="Alchemist1"Personally an improvement on randall who started well got niggly injuries but then gave away too many pens [uno ideas on 5th play [/uand passing from acting half woeful pleased to free up his quota spot pity we havent yet'"
No change there then.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Think Randell got quite a bit of unfair flack by some. Granted, I dont think we quite got the best out of him. I think having such a good debut, and early games, couldn't maintain it. Also had rotten luck with injuries during his time with us. These weren't little niggles, these were serious ones.'"
Randall was absolutely under rated. Worst thing Tyler did was have a worldy debut, and it was all uphill from there.
Tyler starting and then Woody following worked really well for us, and I think we miss it for sure.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I didn't really rate him, he was ok but crocked a lot of the time. He was ok on both side of the ball, with the occasional great performance. So far I think J Wood looks better in defence and more of a threat near the line, but time will tell.'"
The other way round for me at the moment, but Josh has only played four games where Randell was here two and a half years. And I’d say Kyle is ahead of both.
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| Think randall didnt play more than 4 games in his last year really
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"Randall was absolutely under rated. Worst thing Tyler did was have a worldy debut, and it was all uphill from there.
Tyler starting and then Woody following worked really well for us, and I think we miss it for sure.'"
Personally think there is a lot of wishful thinking there but each to their own
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"The other way round for me at the moment, but Josh has only played four games where Randell was here two and a half years. And I’d say Kyle is ahead of both.'"
Yeah Kyle is a different animal to both to be fair, horses for courses I guess!
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