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Oh and sorted - cheers!

Box, Mackie, Walker and Hussain all working against us

How do you know this?

I don't think you need to tell a Wakefield supporter to be patient!


It was a simple request for an update, we'll leave it at that.

He doesn’t.

Whats the saying.. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Box, Mackie and Walker have fooled the public of Wakefield 50 times over the last ten years and now Hussain has joined the party. What on earth makes anyone think that they will deliver anything that is for the benefit of Trinity, that they will deliver on any single one of their recent promises. I fully support The Trust in all their efforts and admire greatly their relentless drive, I value, appreciate, respect and wonder at the unbelievable determination of MC and CB to stick with Trinity and continue to listen to the council despite been let down on every promise made. I have know idea how they summon up the will power to keep listening to the rubbish put forward by Box, you can bet your last dollar that the Box , Mackie, Walker and Hussain will let the Trust, the club and the Trinity fans down again, they want us to fold and go away, then Box gets to give Mackie and Walker the go ahead on planning at Newmarket that Mackie wants, Hussain gets to build what he wants on BV and the council say they tried their best. My guess is that just prior to the deadline Box having had several behind closed doors meetings with Walker, Mackie and Hussain ( by behind closed doors I mean that the club and the Trust will not be invited to attend ) will once again put forward an alternative proposal that will be totally unworkable for the Trust and the club but of great financial benefit to Mackie and Hussain. Lets face it Mackie and Hussain are not interested in the club, it is a pain for them they just want to make money, my beef is not with them but with Box who at every turn grovels to their wishes and uses Walker as the go between. Does anyone really think Walker has moved on, he is still the one who attends the meetings between Box, Jeffries and Mackie. I would 100 % love to be wrong but I agree with a previous poster who said we should be sat with lawyers and starting a judicial revue re Newmarket.

Which is exactly why public meetings and scrutiny panels are essential documented and minuted. Its a hot potato for these people at the moment.

He doesn't but it's a fair guess based on previous. It's fine to be open minded and optimistic but let's not be gullible.

I think as the saying goes we’re hoping for the best, but we need to prepare for the worst.

It would be foolish to go in with blinkers on believing everything being said by stakeholders especially given past experience.

Great thinking, bet MC never gave that a thought.
What a bunch of doom mongers we have become.

Well of course Michael Carter is infallible and obviously has the power to take on and defeat the Mafia, ISIS and little green men from Mars all by himself!

This is now version FOUR (at least). Three times we have been lied to and cheated by more or less the same group of people! People like Belly and Prince Buster have been at the centre of the storm for years so them issuing warnings should be listened to IMO.

If people are doom mongers as you put it they have good reason.

Tell you what you tell us all right know that you know it will happen, no thought not.

What has changed from a few weeks back when everyone on here (Including yourself if i remember rightly) were quite upbeat and positive about the whole thing? As far as i am aware nothing else has come out and we are not over the deadline? Did we expect to hear something 2 weeks before the deadline?

Perhaps there are some on here who have some decent knowledge of what may be going on behind the scenes and perhaps things aren't going to plan

To be honest, through my time on here the poster who seems to have his finger on the pulse more than anyone is Sacred Cow, and according to him things are looking good.

We've had our share of relegation dogfights, but this feels very much like the last chance saloon as far as a ground goes. We have a habit of last minute escapes. All we can do is sit and wait and see what happens, because I'm pretty sure MC will make it clear what's gone wrong if it does.

What reason or proof do the doom and gloom mongers have other than on past experience, to believe that this time won't be any different, you may be right in which case I'm sure you or your mates can give us some good reason other than your dislike and distrust of Box and co.
We're all entitled to an opinion, maybe some of us just aren't as eager as you to turn it into an argument.

For starters Maffy I didn't start the argument the poster I replied to did so cut that nonsense out for starters.

To answer your question I have no specific knowledge hence no proof - so what.

What proof do you have to the contrary other than a doodle on the internet - The word of a dodgy developer - who for christ sake is the same developer who has reneged on NM - HOW OBVIOUS DO YOU NEED IT TO BE!) - A politician who has failed to deliver twice before THAT'S NEWMARKET AND THORNE'S PARK.

Short of it being etched in blood how more obvious do you want the warning signs to be?

I was sceptical from the start if you check back most notably car parking and access - having over the weeks investigated further, talked to people who know about these things it doesn't look good.

That said it's not impossible and I hope with all my heat it actually happens and until we get further info I'll try to keep an open mind - however that goes both way's - which is why I resent the doom monger stuff, it's called realism gained from experience.

I hope that above hasn't shaken your rose tinted world to much.

Nice of you to say so!

I can only go on what i was told a couple of weeks back. Now this is friend of a friend stuff so take it as you will but that friend is an employeee of 88M. To everyone there this seems a genuine attempt and confidence is high of success. Now i admit i have always been in the believe it when i see it camp and i remain there but this seems a lot more encouraging than previous attempt and Manni Hussain will not suffer fools like Box & Mackie gladly. I was told the timescale of the end of the month is restrictive and it may be two or three weeks after that until things are ready but after 30 years of broken promises i'll take that if it means it gets built.

Now it may fall flat on its backside again and we are all being played for fools and we should definately proceed with our eyes open but i for one are willing to give 88M chance to prove themselves as we aren't holding a great hand here and we need it to work. Slagging off the only people right now who can help us is very counter productive. If we are still in the dark and there is a wall of silence in a month or so's time, then i might start getting twitchy but right now i'm cautiously positive.

All I originally asked for was an update!!!!!. Ideally from either Mr C or a member of the trust!!!

Troll.

Not sure where the rose tinted world fits in, I merely asked you to explain other than on past dealings why you think they they'll let us down, because that's the impression your giving out without proof yet in the same breath you admit your clueless over the situation, but your more than happy to give them a chance, very gracious of you indeed.
One thing I don't understand in all this is your aggression towards people what don't agree with you, it's no wonder this board is slowly dying, who needs it.

I never said I was clueless.

Far from being a troll Wollo. just a long-standing Trinity fan of sixty-one years standing who's keenly interested in the future of his club. Does that upset you? Or did you just want to air your seizure inducing heading one more time!!!!!!

Why would you be bothered? You are a Cas fan aren't you?