How can Westerman be Cas through and through? He stated he wanted to leave, so do the club let him leave for free or take the 175K offer from Hull and sign a player who wants to play for the team.

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I'd estimate anywhere in the region of 6 weeks to 12 months depending on how urgent BB seem to think creating a plan and getting permission is to them and their own agenda- which has nothing to do with RL or SL or any of our time constraints.

If BB are using the option (which only cost the £200,000) to "land bank" until the future of the Hicksons site is known that could be potentially devastating for Cas.

Correct.

I agree and it's very poor business by Hull when you consider he was on their books as a junior!

I think it is very good business to be honest. He didnt want to play for us, we need th money obviously, Hull were willing to pay over the odds IMO.

Westy is a good player but has been nowhere near the player he should be by now, maybe thats Mattersons fault or maybe its a players desire?? who knows.

Its not such a big blow to the team dynamics as he was playing the same sort of game that Ferres plays only Ferres is playing better IMO.

Theres no denying the stadium is the hot topic at the moment, i cant see the stadium not being built at GH but im not so sure it will be for 2012 TBH, same for Wakefield, i believe it will get called in and eventually granted (i thoroughly hope so as a Wakefield resident), but with the news that you have a solid (and very good) plan B, i think you will be in SL for a very long time, i just hope we are aswel.

I think Westerman got too big for his boots and his performances suffered.

A new start is what he needs and he will get that at Hull.

I personally believe they have paid well over the odds for him and i am not sure if he is ever going to fulfill his undoubted potential.

Very good post Steve, all the best for GH too (just don't tell Amber....)

It's not Castlefords business savvy I'm questioning TBH.

Not sure if this is a wind up or not but for me Westerman isnt the shining light that we should build around, that player is Chase. Westy went stale and was known for his drinking through the week and turning upto training half drunk. I think it is decent business for us. He wont have improved under Matterson and obviously did not want to stick around so Cas took the money for him now rather than let him leave on a free next season. Why keep an unhappy player in the team that would have done more harm than good? My only worry out of all this is he is very good friends with Chase and may try to tempt him away.

No point tarnishing fallen idol Westerman as a booze hound and then bigging up Chase. Who was Westy on the lash with?

I think he is a big loss for Cas, symbolically, if nothing else. But we all need money to pay our way. You got a decent price, at least.

That is true, i know for a fact Chase is a boozer along with Westy, but at least Chase played well last season unlike Westy. Along with the fact we have got money for him i think it's a decent deal all round.

The biggest worry for Cas is the stadium financing 1st, 2nd and 3rd!

Joe will be missed but the team will adapt, the biggest worry for me if I were a Castleford supporter would be the loss of Joe Westerman so soon after Michael Shenton and to a lesser extent Matthew Dawson, Ben Gledhill and Liam Watts.

A lot of what you say would be sensible if it wasn't riddled with such erroneous information. We don't have to find £11m.

And that press release is badly worded IMO. The money isn't to pay for PP - that was going to be done anyway. However, it recovers some of those costs for the benefit of us, which is surely a good thing, no? As for the planning permission for The Jungle, that is currently being worked on.

how much do you need then

The future of the Hicksons site is already known. It is going to be developed over one way or another. In the meanwhile, that has nothing do with The Jungle as the restrictions have been lifted and planning permission obtained anyway.

Well, I need a new car..........

your fans smashed another up

Yep, can't fault it.



Surprised Ambers not been on ruining a decent post by a Cas fan, she's good at making false accusations and
showing up decent Cas fans.

Cue trollface any moment.

Nah, it's just getting on a bit. As they said on the Fast Show: "Driving a car is like making love to a beautiful woman."

Except this one is the equivalent of a woman with saggy breasts and wrinkles.

Thought that was your taste, Snowie?

gutted for Cas... know what it feels like not to be able to keep your best young players!

That's not a proper answer; yes it will be developed, but what sort of a development will it be, industrial or commercial or housing?



Not exactly true. Ben Bailey may well be holding out (per their agreement until Oct 2011) to see what sort of a development goes up across the water. The houses wouldn't be worth as much if there are industrial units across they way, so there may be less profit, so little point in building with profit margins being so fine at the moment.

However I feel that the planning application you should be looking for is the housing planning permission for WR, that will show commitment from your developer and will ensure you get the funds released on time- which I honestly proves to be the case. However without that application I would be getting nervous if I were in your position.
That's not to say I don't have concerns of my own about my own teams project. Although I grow in confidence everyday!!!!

You'll get the money I have no doubt, in time... Not so sure.