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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Does seem to get injured a lot.'"
I’m not sure tbh. I looked at his career apps and he actually doesn’t seem to miss many over the years. From what some were saying he misses the odd game due to niggles rather than any long term serious ones.
Looking at his career apps it looks about right.
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Quote ="Trojan Horse"No idea tbh. I skimmed across a pre presser with Watson and briefly watched some. Mentioning a few long term injuries to Sezer, Gaskill and O’Brien.
Fair point. It would have been worse had he been injured end of season impacting any pre season with us.'"
Looks like Sezer and McIntosh may have both played their last games for Shudds ??
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/57672146
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Quote ="Trojan Horse"No idea tbh. I skimmed across a pre presser with Watson and briefly watched some. Mentioning a few long term injuries to Sezer, Gaskill and O’Brien.
Fair point. It would have been worse had he been injured end of season impacting any pre season with us.'"
Looks like Sezer and McIntosh may have both played their last games for Shudds ??
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/57672146
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| I don't know how much truth is in the rumour that Cas are after Miller but I wonder if Andy Last has his eyes more on next season than this?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I don't know how much truth is in the rumour that Cas are after Miller but I wonder if Andy Last has his eyes more on next season than this?'"
He’s only here for the season, so yes and no,
I think Last is a fairly peripheral member of staff. As a friend of CC it was I suspect more of a favour to him as anything else. All the same I don’t see how next season has anything to do with owt TBH.
I’m sure he will do his best. Is he signing for Cas next year or are you speculating? I’d have thought he’d was a crack at running a championship team at this point in his career rather than being Radfords assistant but I could be wrong. It’s
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| Last will 100% be at Cas next year, Miller won’t be
But that doesn’t mean he hasn’t signed elsewhere
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| Quote ="vastman"He’s only here for the season, so yes and no,
I think Last is a fairly peripheral member of staff. As a friend of CC it was I suspect more of a favour to him as anything else. All the same I don’t see how next season has anything to do with owt TBH.
I’m sure he will do his best. Is he signing for Cas next year or are you speculating? I’d have thought he’d was a crack at running a championship team at this point in his career rather than being Radfords assistant but I could be wrong. It’s'"
Sorry, I really meant is he tapping up our players? Westy, Miller and whoever else he might unsettle.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Sorry, I really meant is he tapping up our players? Westy, Miller and whoever else he might unsettle.'"
I doubt it to be honest. Westerman wanted to go to Cas and Miller isn't apparently. I don't think his usefulness to the club would be enough for us to keep him if he was being disruptive.
In my experience players go where they want to go.
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| Getting back to Milkie I can't imagine MC allowing us to bring in Gaskell and then let Miller go absolutely ludicrous. IMO Miller is a miles better player than Gaskell younger too has a bigger heart and a lot tougher. If we go down that route no season ticket for me I'm afraid. Might settle for being a tv supporter.
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| Quote ="Teltry"Getting back to Milkie I can't imagine MC allowing us to bring in Gaskell and then let Miller go absolutely ludicrous. IMO Miller is a miles better player than Gaskell younger too has a bigger heart and a lot tougher. If we go down that route no season ticket for me I'm afraid. Might settle for being a tv supporter.'"
Not always in the club's hands. I have no idea as to the truth of the story but if Miller wants out I'm sure he can, may have a contract clause who knows.
I agree regarding Miller but IMHO that's only been the case in the last few seasons. The truth is Miller has been at the club for 7 seasons I think? Maybe he feels he's peaking now and wants to join a club with a more realistic chance of winning something. Remember Miller was a schoolboy international and when he joined Hull great things were expected and maybe now is the time. That said if he joins HKR which is a strong rumour then he's moving IMHO purely for cash. We shall sse.
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| Quote ="vastman"Not always in the club's hands. I have no idea as to the truth of the story but if Miller wants out I'm sure he can, may have a contract clause who knows.
I agree regarding Miller but IMHO that's only been the case in the last few seasons. The truth is Miller has been at the club for 7 seasons I think? Maybe he feels he's peaking now and wants to join a club with a more realistic chance of winning something. Remember Miller was a schoolboy international and when he joined Hull great things were expected and maybe now is the time. That said if he joins HKR which is a strong rumour then he's moving IMHO purely for cash. We shall sse.'"
I can't see him going to Rovers.
I agree if there was a possibility of going to a club with more stability but he hasn't got that there.
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| Quote ="Teltry"Getting back to Milkie I can't imagine MC allowing us to bring in Gaskell and then let Miller go absolutely ludicrous. IMO Miller is a miles better player than Gaskell younger too has a bigger heart and a lot tougher. If we go down that route no season ticket for me I'm afraid. Might settle for being a tv supporter.'"
You’d choose not to get a season ticket based on the transfer of one player?
Be honest with us now, how many posters of Miller do you have up in your bedroom?
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| Nothing to do with worshipping Miller but taking backwards steps as a club is just reverting to what we've done for years. MC has said on numerous occasions we are no longer a selling club and not to long ago he said we were building a team around Miller. Made him captain and now maybe let him go to play against us for another super league club if the rumour is true of course. If we replaced him with a star player then I could understand but Lee Gaskell do me a favour.
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| Love this board at times it swings like a compass on the North Pole it's not long ago that Milkie shouldn't be in the team shouldn't be captain and one rumour without substance that he is on his way and he is basically irreplaceable. See what happens and see what comes down the official line.
At the end of the day players come and players go whatever happens if the rumour turns out to be fact Miller has been excellent for the club
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| HKR are after Coote, they certainly are looking moving up a level in standing
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"HKR are after Coote, they certainly are looking moving up a level in standing'"
Already a done deal apparently Khlav, they were after Austin but I have heard they have just missed out on him as he chose another SL club...
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| Quote ="Teltry"Nothing to do with worshipping Miller but taking backwards steps as a club is just reverting to what we've done for years. MC has said on numerous occasions we are no longer a selling club and not to long ago he said we were building a team around Miller. Made him captain and now maybe let him go to play against us for another super league club if the rumour is true of course. If we replaced him with a star player then I could understand but Lee Gaskell do me a favour.'"
Sorry but that's pure tripe based on pure speculation, just leave it.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"HKR are after Coote, they certainly are looking moving up a level in standing'"
What's happening with Quinlan then because he is one of their stand out players? Bit of a short ar5e but other than that....
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"=#FF0000What's happening with Quinlan then because he is one of their stand out players? =#FF0000Bit of a short ar5e but other than that....'"
They are sticking him in a greenhouse and hoping for the best....
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| Let's be clear - HKR haven't stolen Saints star import - he was told he wouldn't be getting another contract.
He's a lot slower this year and some Saints fans think he's cooked.
I'd have Jowitt over Coote every day of the week.
HKR is an expensive retirement home and they chuck money about in a never-ending, desperate attempt to get out of FCs shadow.
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| Quote ="dboy"Let's be clear - HKR haven't stolen Saints star import - he was told he wouldn't be getting another contract.
He's a lot slower this year and some Saints fans think he's cooked.
I'd have Jowitt over Coote every day of the week.
HKR is an expensive retirement home and they chuck money about in a never-ending, desperate attempt to get out of FCs shadow.
They fail every time.'"
He’s been offered a contract but Hull KR have offered a better one, much like we have done with Gaskell. And he isn’t any slower this season at all, he’s never had any pace!
As for Jowitt over Coote, yes i’d agree given their respective ages. The same goes for Jowitt over Gaskell but if anyone thinks Gaskell will be anything other than a first choice player next year they are deluding themselves. So if Miller stays you know whats going to happen.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"He’s been offered a contract but Hull KR have offered a better one, much like we have done with Gaskell. And he isn’t any slower this season at all, he’s never had any pace!
As for Jowitt over Coote, yes i’d agree given their respective ages. The same goes for Jowitt over Gaskell but if anyone thinks Gaskell will be anything other than a first choice player next year they are deluding themselves. So if Miller stays you know whats going to happen.'"
He was offered a contract - on less than he is on now = Dufty is tipped Saints #1 next year. He's another level.
Coote would be an overseas, frontline signing.
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| Quote ="dboy"He was offered a contract - on less than he is on now = Dufty is tipped Saints #1 next year. He's another level.
Coote would be an overseas, frontline signing.
Gaskell is a UK utility. that's where his value lies.'"
For Hull KR he is an upgrade, replacing the very injury prone and quota player in Quinlan. Gives them a top level goalkicker as well, something they don’t have. It’s a win for them. As for Saints Dufty would be great but as he stated in an interview the other day he doesn’t want to come over here. He’ll take any deal in the NRL first.
In signing Gaskell it likely pushes out Hampshire, another younger British utility. Personally i think the signing is pretty average value wise to be honest but there you go.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"For Hull KR he is an upgrade, replacing the very injury prone and quota player in Quinlan. Gives them a top level goalkicker as well, something they don’t have. It’s a win for them. As for Saints Dufty would be great but as he stated in an interview the other day he doesn’t want to come over here. He’ll take any deal in the NRL first.
In signing Gaskell it likely pushes out Hampshire, another younger British utility. Personally i think the signing is pretty average value wise to be honest but there you go.'"
Got to agree .Haskell will be the wrong side of 30 and gets injured a lot .Hampshire is not perfect but got more to is game
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"He’s been offered a contract but Hull KR have offered a better one, much like we have done with Gaskell. And he isn’t any slower this season at all, he’s never had any pace!
As for Jowitt over Coote, yes i’d agree given their respective ages. The same goes for Jowitt over Gaskell but if anyone thinks Gaskell will be anything other than a first choice player next year they are deluding themselves. So if Miller stays you know whats going to happen.'"
Do you mean first-choice squad player or FB?
If you mean the former I agree, if you mean the latter I don't agree.
As it stands, I can see him at centre to start with depending on Bills recovery but who knows. He covers quite a range.
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| Quote ="alegend"Got to agree .Haskell will be the wrong side of 30 and gets injured a lot .Hampshire is not perfect but got more to is game'"
Seriously, you think Hampshire has more to his game than Gaskell? I think not.
Why though are we again pre-judging a player who hasn't even played a game for us. Will fans never learn? How many times do fans get it wrong on signings, about 90% of the time in my opinion, so why not judge a player on what he actually does rather than some preconceived prejudice?
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