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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Sorry Sue, but what are you going to do? If you don't have the cash, what is there to do? Write letters? Save yourself the money for the stamp.
I tell you what there is to do. Support the lads like you do. Make sure that however tough this season is, the poor buggers who have to wear the Wakefield Trinity shirt are supported to the end, that they cop no sh11te, that they give their all, and that we end up in a place above last spot, so that when we're chucked out, no one can ever say we were beaten to it on the field. Heads high, loud and proud.'"
put that post on a t shirt and market the sod
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| Quote ="jack in the box"True supporters shouldn't have money left to afford holiday games'"
Get real. These are the kind of games that will keep supporters interested in fixtures against Dewsbury/Batley, etc.
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ok on marking that answer id give it 1/2
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Sorry Sue, but what are you going to do? If you don't have the cash, what is there to do? Write letters? Save yourself the money for the stamp.
I tell you what there is to do. Support the lads like you do. Make sure that however tough this season is, the poor buggers who have to wear the Wakefield Trinity shirt are supported to the end, that they cop no sh11te, that they give their all, and that we end up in a place above last spot, so that when we're chucked out, no one can ever say we were beaten to it on the field. Heads high, loud and proud.'"
Im impressed... a very sensible post and very poignant of actually where we stand at the moment. And as much as it will probably be a hard pill to swallow (and while your swallowing it TRB will have his fingers down your throat trying to get the pill back out again whilst shouting from his cue card that all is not lost) its one that ultimately we all have to accept and move on.
I actually enjoyed the trips to Rochdale, Oldham, Swinton etc... in the years leading up to our Grand Final win and theres no reason they cant be enjoyed again. SL will be a worse place without us, but the Championship will be a better one. |
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Get real. These are the kind of games that will keep supporters interested in fixtures against Dewsbury/Batley, etc.
How much money have you got left, big shot? The cost of your season ticket would probably pay my flight over to Wakey for one game.'"
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"Im impressed... a very sensible post and very poignant of actually where we stand at the moment. And as much as it will probably be a hard pill to swallow (and while your swallowing it TRB will have his fingers down your throat trying to get the pill back out again whilst shouting from his cue card that all is not lost) its one that ultimately we all have to accept and move on.
I actually enjoyed the trips to Rochdale, Oldham, Swinton etc... in the years leading up to our Grand Final win and theres no reason they cant be enjoyed again. SL will be a worse place without us, but the Championship will be a better one.'"
Don't be a smart. TRB is far closer to what's going on than I am. I'm telling you how it is from where I stand. TRB is entitled to his own opinion, but I know the guy, respect the guy, and have every faith in him. Doesn't force me to agree with him, but that's how grown-ups work.
We should agree to take whatever payment we can to join the Championship. Anything else will cost us more than we have. IMO.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Come on mate, you're not daft. What would they say to him? Show us your stadium and a few million investment and you can have your franchise. Can't deliver the stadium, so no deal. Can't deliver SL, so no takeover. We may end up being a supporters' trust club in the Championship. I can think of worse scenarios.'"
No idea what they said but the point I was making was that he was not put off by debts as some on here are implying. We were told and again you can believe what we are being told or not that he was keen to take over the club but following a meeting with the RFL/SL pulled out.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Don't be a smart. TRB is far closer to what's going on than I am. I'm telling you how it is from where I stand. TRB is entitled to his own opinion, but I know the guy, respect the guy, and have every faith in him. Doesn't force me to agree with him, but that's how grown-ups work.
We should agree to take whatever payment we can to join the Championship. Anything else will cost us more than we have. IMO.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Fair enough. It's been a bit of a tiring evening.'"
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If this is true it seems the game is up in the view of the RFL.
Has this guy kept secret what the RFL said to make him change his mind? or do the BOD know what was said to him and they dare not say?
Didn't the sharehoders question this?'"
The shareholders did question it and I did after the meeting with Ted and all we were told was that he no longer felt that the investment fitted with his portfolio/plans. The BoD seem as puzzled as anyone.
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| Quote ="feline"Having read through many of the posts on here re our current plight the way I see it is that all the Wakey fans care even if they have a strange way of showing it. Many of the fans are upset that it is only the shareholders who attended last nights meeting who have heard the full story. I believe the shareholder meeting last night should have at least been followed by a supporters meeting tonight. Everyone on here could have then gone along listened to what the club had to say and then put their points of view / shown their support or voice their lack of it. In fact it would be great to see the fans on here put their views forward as to how they would get us out of the situation we are in and help OUR club survive. The way I see it we are not doing ourselves any favours by falling out amongst ourselves, what picure must that paint at Red Hall. We have to fight for OUR club , its about Wakefield Trinity Wildcats past present and future , not about personalities who come and go. Come on we have ALL invested lots of money, time, heartache, good times and bad and thats what you do when you LOVE something so much , accept it warts and all. So put your time into writing a letter to Red Hall, the press, MPs , whoever shout loud and proud WE ARE WAKEFIELD, TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER.'"
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"No idea what they said but the point I was making was that he was not put off by debts as some on here are implying. We were told and again you can believe what we are being told or not that he was keen to take over the club but following a meeting with the RFL/SL pulled out.
Apparantly told Crusaders that they are in as well as Widnes - guess we'll see in July.'"
Of course they are. You can add Fax to that list unless Cas really impress. They may just get the chance if the applications are decided before Wakey MDC has to re-allocate the land loans (in which case, Cas would probably get both, as we'd no longer be a SL club).
Add Widnes and Fax to SL and you get another 4 derbies. Demote wakey and Cas to the Championship and you get another 4 derbies. Plus, you get those Championship clubs in the Wakey area contributing young talent to Leeds, Bradford, and particularly Huddersfield, who seem incapable of creating their own. |
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Dear Ted, Elston & Daddy Cool,
UK INTERNATIONAL DRAW HEADQUATERS
NATIONAL LOTTERY TOWER
LIVERPOOL, L70 1NL
UNITED KINGDOM
Ref No: UK/9420X2/68
Batch No: 074/05/ZY369
DEAR LUCKY WINNER,
This is to inform you that your email was selected for a
cash prize in the
UK INTERNATIONAL EMAIL DRAW held 2ND Of JANUARY 2011 in
London Uk.
Your email has won you £1,500,000.00 Great British Pounds.
TO file for Claims, Contact
Claims Agent; Mr Garry White.
Email; mrgarrywhite22@webadictos.net
YOU ARE TO INDICATE THE OPTION SUITABLE FOR YOU IN
RELEASING YOUR FUNDS.
1. BANK TO BANK TRANSFER.
2. DELIVERY BY CERTIFIED CHEQUE
Provide the information below;
1.Full Names:.... 2.Address:.........
3.Sex and Age:............ 4.Country:.............
5.Occupation:.......... 6.Phone no:........
7.Release Option:....
Regards
Mike Vilasma
UK LOTTERY BOARD
 We have been saved !!!! I have forwarded this onto saveourclub@wakefieldwildcats.co.uk
All I can hope is they reply and move on with this matter. |
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Dear Ted, Elston & Daddy Cool,
UK INTERNATIONAL DRAW HEADQUATERS
NATIONAL LOTTERY TOWER
LIVERPOOL, L70 1NL
UNITED KINGDOM
Ref No: UK/9420X2/68
Batch No: 074/05/ZY369
DEAR LUCKY WINNER,
This is to inform you that your email was selected for a
cash prize in the
UK INTERNATIONAL EMAIL DRAW held 2ND Of JANUARY 2011 in
London Uk.
Your email has won you £1,500,000.00 Great British Pounds.
TO file for Claims, Contact
Claims Agent; Mr Garry White.
Email; mrgarrywhite22@webadictos.net
YOU ARE TO INDICATE THE OPTION SUITABLE FOR YOU IN
RELEASING YOUR FUNDS.
1. BANK TO BANK TRANSFER.
2. DELIVERY BY CERTIFIED CHEQUE
Provide the information below;
1.Full Names:.... 2.Address:.........
3.Sex and Age:............ 4.Country:.............
5.Occupation:.......... 6.Phone no:........
7.Release Option:....
Regards
Mike Vilasma
UK LOTTERY BOARD
We have been saved !!!! I have forwarded this onto saveourclub@wakefieldwildcats.co.uk
All I can hope is they reply and move on with this matter. | |
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Of course they are. You can add Fax to that list unless Cas really impress. They may just get the chance if the applications are decided before Wakey MDC has to re-allocate the land loans (in which case, Cas would probably get both, as we'd no longer be a SL club).
Add Widnes and Fax to SL and you get another 4 derbies. Demote wakey and Cas to the Championship and you get another 4 derbies. Plus, you get those Championship clubs in the Wakey area contributing young talent to Leeds, Bradford, and particularly Huddersfield, who seem incapable of creating their own.'"
So our fate has already been determined and even if a Dubai sindicate were to come in with millions and a new Stadium the RFL would no longer want us in SL.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"To try and answer the questions on debts and why investors pulled out based on what I heard last night. If I heard wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.
One of the investors after spending weeks on due dilligence pulled out but was later found to be a former bankrupt Director who was unable to hod office in any event.
The over investor was a multi-millionaire (worth £150m I seem to recall). He examined the books and the Clubs debts did not frighten him off, indeed the debt was "small potatoes" to him. He was keen to take over and the Club requested that the RFL see him so as to see the calibre of investor who was looking to take over the Club. Initially the RFL refused to meet him stating that the process had already started - what process, franchise applications are not to be submitted until March unless they were referring to the process with NL Clubs applications.
They were however persuaded to meet with the Investor and following the meeting with the RFL/SL he said that the investment no longer fitted in with his current portfolio/plans.
This is what I find particularly worrying. He was keen (having seen the books) until he met with the RFL/SL. What did they say to him that made him change his mind ? Did they say anything about who would be getting franchises in 2012 ? Did they say anything at all ? Did he just change his mind ? Who knows ?
If I've got this wrong then please put me straight.'"
I find it very very hard to believe that the RFL would give the cold shoulder to someone like this. It's quite clear that the future direction the game is going towards sugar Daddies and expansion clubs. I would think the problem was close to home, probably Ted's conditions, surely he is not going to miss an opportunity to the milk one last pay day out of someone like this.  |
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"So our fate has already been determined and even if a Dubai sindicate were to come in with millions and a new Stadium the RFL would no longer want us in SL.
There's me thinking applications will be assessed fairly.'"
Yeah, well... what can I say, mate? Maybe the Dubai syndicate could swing it, but they better show up soon. |
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| Quote ="deeHell"I find it very very hard to believe that the RFL would give the cold shoulder to someone like this. It's quite clear that the future direction the game is going towards sugar Daddies and expansion clubs. I would think the problem was close to home, probably Ted's conditions, surely he is not going to miss an opportunity to the milk one last pay day out of someone like this.
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Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, we can only go on what we were told. If he is trying to milk one last pay day (and I personally doubt it) its going to possibly see the end of the Club - not just at SL.
I think there is more to it than meets the eye but having said that I do like conspiracy theories. |
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| Quote ="snowie"one hell of a late day and only just got to come and see the response to last night,
I just can't believe that nothing has been said from the club, surly they must of known that the forum would hit off with truths, rumours and counter rumours.
to me its like burrowing your head in the sand and hoping it will all go away, well it isn't.
I'm now prepared to except championship rugby as I fear our fete has been sealed by,
1. no one will to invest heavily
2 the RFL has forced us into a corner and we end up cowering in it.
Mopsey while you may be right about the outcome, surly your not getting any satisfaction from the clubs plight.
=#BF0040Phil I've asked my question about whether I could afford to stand a grand and its a no, do a value rugby in Wakefield of course I do.
I take my hat off to those that don't mind taking that risk but I'm afraid its a big boys game when you start to invest in something so volatile.
I'm not going to stand and shout for the Bod to go or for John Kears job, for one I wouldn't know where to start running a club/business and JK will take advantage of being sacked and make all worse financially.
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And of course I am aware that you most certainly do - no question. As I said, the issue is 'can I afford to lose this money' - and the same would apply to any share purchase. |
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| Quote ="TRB"And of course I am aware that you most certainly do - no question. As I said, the issue is 'can I afford to lose this money' - and the same would apply to any share purchase.'"
What if I let the company go into administration, like Widnes, and put my grand in after the fire? What then? |
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"What if I let the company go into administration, like Widnes, and put my grand in after the fire? What then?'"
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"What if I let the company go into administration, like Widnes, and put my grand in after the fire? What then?'"
He might be a while in replying.... dont think that sort of question was put on the prompt manuscript given to him by Ted. Might be something like,
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"He might be a while in replying.... dont think that sort of question was put on the prompt manuscript given to him by Ted. Might be something like,
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