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| No mudslinging here my friend, we're clean, friendly, peaceful people over here.
If no bid can be accepted or rejected why would one have disappeared from existence when it was public knowledge that there were 2 bids on the table last weekend.
Nothing can happen until Friday, please read before posting 2nd/3rd hand info, you might find it to be false by cross examining it with what other people said/heard/can link.
To reiterate I don't want to get into any kind of debate with CT fans, this has no relevance to them in anyway. So IMO have no place to speak. This is too much of an emotive subject.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"i dont want a mud slinging match just posting what ive been told.
thats the last im posting until after a deal has been done and im more than happy to say i was wrong if it turns out to be someone else.
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but nobody knows who has really made bids apart from the administrator
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| It's all rumours at the moment but got told today it's Steve Parkin heading the takeover which will be brilliant for Trinity and also the RFL will look at us very favourably with him at the helm. Also he is wanting a pro football team to be based in the biggest City without pro football so Newmarket can be utilised all year round. I His take over at Trinity will be confirmed on Friday. I hope this true not just for Trinity but for Wakefield.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"It's all rumours at the moment but got told today it's Steve Parkin heading the takeover which will be brilliant for Trinity and also the RFL will look at us very favourably with him at the helm. Also he is wanting a pro football team to be based in the biggest City without pro football so Newmarket can be utilised all year round. I His take over at Trinity will be confirmed on Friday. I hope this true not just for Trinity but for Wakefield.'"
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"The Millenium magic weekend is still possible with 15 teams.
How about the centre piece game being the World Club Challenge.
This means that the derbies stay, all the teams are playing and the added bonus that teams will each have a buy week thus giving them a little break at some stage of the season (just to shut Jamie Peacock up)!
I know it makes too much sense for the RFL to even consider it!!!!'"
So, say Leeds are in next year's WCC on Magic weekend, how will they get their extra game of SL bearing in mind that Magic is an additional round which would give 29 fixtures in your 15 team league? If Magic became one of the normal 28 rounds then home and away fixtures would be unequal.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"icon_lol.gif Steve Parkin is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind Caddick in the money stakes..... and why on earth would any Leeds player want to go and play in the Co op Championship?'"
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assets of £55.2m. Led by Caddick, 58, the family owns more than 90% of the firm and has other assets.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"a little bird tells me that the only bidder isnt steve parkin and that its andy glover who is fronting the spirit of 1873 syndicate.
not quite the knight you wanted but better than nobody.'"
Little bird has told you a fib.
Whatever the outcome, Stave Parkin has put his bid in!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Not any more!
RESULTS FOR 2009
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assets of £55.2m. Led by Caddick, 58, the family owns more than 90% of the firm and has other assets.
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Ranking: 366=
Worth: £220m
Source of wealth: Construction'"
Yes Mr Caddicks major losses came with the Trinity Shopping Arcade Development in Leeds. Another developer that was guilty of over-reaching and becoming over exposed with the downturn.
Lost the money and the development.
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| Steve Parkin taking over the club has been a strong rumour for the last few weeks. But it remains just that until we hear anything official IMHO. I'd like to think he just didn't want to shout it out yet. We'll find out as soon as the administrator as been appointed, I hope.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Little bird has told you a fib.
Whatever the outcome, Stave Parkin has put his bid in!'"
Thank you Clan.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"i dont want a mud slinging match just posting what ive been told.
thats the last im posting until after a deal has been done and im more than happy to say i was wrong if it turns out to be someone else.
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Problem is in your case is that everything you have ever been told and posted on here has been totally wrong. You are unreliable at best. Obst for Whitehaven anyone.
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| Quote ="braytontiger"i dont want a mud slinging match just posting what ive been told.
thats the last im posting until after a deal has been done and im more than happy to say i was wrong if it turns out to be someone else.
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Quote ="vastman"Problem is in your case is that everything you have ever been told and posted on here has been totally wrong. You are unreliable at best. Obst for Whitehaven anyone.'"
THat's the problems living in Brayton these days. It's been bypassed!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Not any more!
RESULTS FOR 2009
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assets of £55.2m. Led by Caddick, 58, the family owns more than 90% of the firm and has other assets.
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Worth: £220m
Source of wealth: Construction'"
The Clan is on fire this week, throwing out zingers all over the place!
I have to say though, considering that this is an internet forum and all, that using facts to refute spurious and unfounded arguments is rather poor form; this is the second thread you've shut down in as many days.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Not any more!
RESULTS FOR 2009
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Down: £130m
Source of wealth: Construction
assets of £55.2m. Led by Caddick, 58, the family owns more than 90% of the firm and has other assets.
RESULTS FOR 2008
Ranking: 366=
Worth: £220m
Source of wealth: Construction'"
Can you post the same for Steve Parkin. We all know he is rich and his company turns over a lot of money, but would be good to see his "actual" worth.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"Can you post the same for Steve Parkin. We all know he is rich and his company turns over a lot of money, but would be good to see his "actual" worth.'"
Do your own research. This is not Wakeypedia you know.
I much prefer when Mrs. Rugbyball uses you log in; she's quite witty and amusing.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"Can you post the same for Steve Parkin. We all know he is rich and his company turns over a lot of money, but would be good to see his "actual" worth.'"
He owns 70% of Clipper, with a group valuation of around £100m, that of course does not mean he has £70 million in spare cash burning a hole in his trouser pockets though
I would reckon as Clipper has only really expanded over the last few years, and let's remember turnover and profit are two vastly different animals, the amount of personal disposable cash he has is a long ways behind Caddick, who has been banking big bucks for a lot longer.
Its always good though when you have a guy like Parkin willing to put his time and energies into a project, and with possibly some good news on a start date for newmarket later, maybe a deal for short term groundshare down at Barnsley, I think you should be confident for the future.
A good on field performance this season, added to the above and Redhall might be forced to rethink. If they don't, then 3 years to regroup in the co-op before coming back up is not the end of the world.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"He owns 70% of Clipper, with a group valuation of around £100m, that of course does not mean he has £70 million in spare cash burning a hole in his trouser pockets though
I would reckon as Clipper has only really expanded over the last few years, and let's remember turnover and profit are two vastly different animals, the amount of personal disposable cash he has is a long ways behind Caddick, who has been banking big bucks for a lot longer.
Its always good though when you have a guy like Parkin willing to put his time and energies into a project, and with possibly some good news on a start date for newmarket later, maybe a deal for short term groundshare down at Barnsley, I think you should be confident for the future.
A good on field performance this season, added to the above and Redhall might be forced to rethink. If they don't, then 3 years to regroup in the co-op before coming back up is not the end of the world.'"
Why does it bother you so much, Caddick v Parkin, who is richer, who cares they will both only give as much as they are willing to give and that is known only to themselves - certainly not to billynomatesrhino.
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| I think a lot a people assume that if the next owners are worth multi millions that they will just tip all their money in to the club. These are rich people who made money by making calculated decisions with their heads not their hearts. If you are worth 170 million it isn't just sat in the bank it is invested in companies & property. They will spend some of their disposable income or just guarantee lones.
I would love someone come along and put enough money in to pay for a new ground and then spend to the cap but I can't see it. The best I think we will get is a stable club that can grow and long term be a regular in the top half of the table. If any of these people had a blank cheque why didn't they take on the club weeks ago. The reason is they made a business decision that it was cheaper after admin.
I hope we do a Man City but we could end up a Notts County which would be OK. I just want a viable club that plays in Wakefield and is called Wakefield.
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| Quote ="B V Bob"
I just want a viable club that plays in Wakefield and is called Wakefield.'"
Amen to that. Anything more is a bonus.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"He owns 70% of Clipper, with a group valuation of around £100m, that of course does not mean he has £70 million in spare cash burning a hole in his trouser pockets though
I would reckon as Clipper has only really expanded over the last few years, and let's remember turnover and profit are two vastly different animals, the amount of personal disposable cash he has is a long ways behind Caddick, who has been banking big bucks for a lot longer.
Its always good though when you have a guy like Parkin willing to put his time and energies into a project, and with possibly some good news on a start date for newmarket later, maybe a deal for short term groundshare down at Barnsley, I think you should be confident for the future.
A good on field performance this season, added to the above and Redhall might be forced to rethink. If they don't, then 3 years to regroup in the co-op before coming back up is not the end of the world.'"
I understand, like you, that Steve Parkin holds 70% of Clipper and I also heard that his personal wealth was estimated around the £150m mark, so due to Paul Caddicks problems over the last couple of years he probably does currently have deeper pockets. Clipper turns-over about £180m per annum I think as well, so that means that his dividend is likely to run into the tens of millions per annum. That makes him super-rich!
I trust Clan and if he says he is in the running, he is in the running, but ultimatley news will emerge very swiftly tomorrow I expect!
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| Does it really matter who has more money than who. Unless the RFL suddenly abolish the salary cap there is only so much you can spend on a club anyway. You can bring in top coaches, but how many do you need 4 or 5 at the most update the gym etc. After that the variable costs are fairly limited.
Having 100million or 10000million pounds will not make much of an impact on the levels that a person can spend on a club.
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| I have it on good authority that an announcement is to be made tommorrow Friday thus enabling us to play Saturday.
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| Quote ="jonh"Unless the RFL suddenly abolish the salary cap there is only so much you can spend on a club anyway.'"
Unless you're Wigan of course
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| Quote ="jonh"Does it really matter who has more money than who. Unless the RFL suddenly abolish the salary cap there is only so much you can spend on a club anyway. You can bring in top coaches, but how many do you need 4 or 5 at the most update the gym etc. After that the variable costs are fairly limited.
Having 100million or 10000million pounds will not make much of an impact on the levels that a person can spend on a club.'"
For a club like us it would be like abolishing the salary cap.
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| Quote ="jonh"Does it really matter who has more money than who. Unless the RFL suddenly abolish the salary cap there is only so much you can spend on a club anyway. You can bring in top coaches, but how many do you need 4 or 5 at the most update the gym etc. After that the variable costs are fairly limited.
Having 100million or 10000million pounds will not make much of an impact on the levels that a person can spend on a club.'"
From what i have heard we are nowhere near to spending the full cap and where the person who buys the club to allow us to spend up to the cap we would be able to sign 3 or 4 top players and still fit under the cap.
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