I feel safer going to the football have done for years

Not sure how these plastic cards' will work, when you enter the turnstile will the operator have a machine where you slide your card over it like in the supermarket, or will he have a chip and pin type machine? hopefully they might be fitted into the wall like at Headingley which are very quick and efficient, I'm not having a go here Scarlet because you have to respect other peoples reasonable opinions and there are a couple of things' that don't sit right with me down there, on the subject of segregation I don't have an opinion as there are arguments' for and against it, but if having a plastic card is the worst new practise we have to suffer then I for one am happy with that.

Is the plastic card just a better way (or maybe a cheaper option ?) than the old style book season tickets.
I presumed it was just quicker and less open to fraud ?

Cant see any issue with the change at all (unless, at some point, there is a problem with the scanning devices)

On the plus side, they are less bulky than the old booklet



Maybe, we are preparing for the future, when we may have some un manned turnstiles

Anything has got to be better than the old style book, poor perferation, not being allowed to pull the ticket out till you got into the turnstile once you've got into the right one, poorly maintained turnstile all contributing to a slow entry, unmanned turnstiles' would also save money which has to be a big plus for the club, any problem with the technology would be just a minor hiccup, we are after all Wakefield a club what thrive on teeny weeny hiccups'

You are Bill Gates I claim my fiver

I've always liked MC but he went up another notch on my admiration scale when he did this. It further shows his passion for the club. Its just about been fully covered on this thread but whatever were they thinking when they threw them? At least the vast majority of both sets of fans agreed on how stupid they've been. I was standing on the Wheldon road end and saw the smoke bombs on the pitch but didn't see them thrown. Just wondered if any one pointed out the culprits as I couldn't see any one and I haven't seen it mentioned. Great win and you certainly don't look like a team who will finish bottom.

Might be a suspended fine depending on how well the incident is dealt with at the club. Can't accuse Carter of not dealing with the problem swiftly and forcefully. Looked understandably livid at the time.

Will it depend on the ref's report or the match commissioner? MC's actions should surely go in your favour.

I can't see how Wakey will get a fine it was down to Castleford to ensure the security of spectators. Just like at BV when there was trouble with the clubs it was Wakefield who were fined (suspended I believe) and no punishment for Cad as they were the visitors. Car should have a robust policy on entry but more importantly the resources to implement it. A lit of people have had a go at the club fif its policy on searching and seizing items well st least it can practice what it preaches given the number of messages about iton this forum

So if the same culprits do it again when you visit Widnes do Widnes get the blame, and then go on and do it at Salford do Salford get the blame. I'm not saying you should be fined but they are your fans and you have to take some responsibility and it wants nipping in the bud.

Do football clubs get fined for away fans setting off smoke bombs
Did HKR & Wigan get fined for setting off smoke bombs
Did cas get fined for the scalding drink that HIT Mathers?
If Wakefield get fined for a blue and red smoke bomb at an unsegregated away ground where they have no say or control of stewards and crowd control does that mean when cas play at an unsegregated Belle Vue and a orange smoke bomb goes off will cas get fined?

If a religious zealot adorned in Wakefield merchandise was to walk into Wheldon Road, amble into the Princess Street stand & detonate a bomb taking out numerous spectators, would it be WTRLFC’s fault?

Only asking…

It's your ground and your responsibility to police it, if your club refuses to ignore the fact that there has been trouble between both sets of fans' in the past, and due to the high demand for tickets' refuse to act in an appropriate manner by bringing extra stewards' in to dissolve any potential trouble, then you can only assume it was an irresponsible cost cutting exercise on behalf of your club and the blame lies firmly at your feet, unless of course you expected us to bring our own stewards'.

But it was the idiots who brought the smoke bombs into the ground. They were knowingly doing wrong but the stewards failed to stop them. Are you saying its morally ok for nutters to commit acts because its the stewards fault for not stopping them. Its got to the point where you're now sticking up for these idiots rather than condemning them.

I don't profess to be very intelligent but you've lost me with that post. Are you condoning the damage that these idiots have done to your clubs image.

Only asking.

Of course I’m not condoning the actions of some divvy kids, however I’m alluding to the scenario of something far more sinister & how that could possibly be the fault of WTRLFC.

Are they expected to police every “so called” supporter that rocks up at an away match, surely it’s down to the security systems at the grounds they are visiting to ensure no contraband enters that ground.

Hell, I can’t even take my suitcase to B.V anymore!

Sorry mate but it's not how I'm reading it. I think it's been pretty clear what everyones thoughts about the tool/s who let the smoke bomb off, no ones condoning it at all, not the ones you've replied to anyway. But at the same time each club has to do everything they can to stop incidents happening before they happen, that's why Wakefield have had to go to the lengths they have, after incidents that took place especially between our two teams where there has been a bit of a history of late. That seems to be the only point which you seem to disagree but plenty of Cas fans blamed the Wakey Club and the stewerds when it kicked off a few seasons ago.

Tbh though not sure what the back and forth is about because you have said a few posts above that you don't think we should be fined but then go on to say we have to take some responsibility, which I think you'll agree we have or at least are doing our best to find the people and take make an example, much like we did with the bannings of a few trouble causes a few years ago.

You've answered your own question squire, the inadequate amount of stewards failed to stop them. If the stewards' had been doing their job properly we could have spoken more on our magnificent achievement last Sunday and not two mindless idiots', and fwiw I've already spoke of my contempt for them but don't let that stop you from trying to put words in my mouth to suit your flimsy argument.

I'd be interested in what Mick Carter's take on this is. Blame Cas Tigers for lack of stewarding and not searching speccies correctly, or WTW supporters for bringing the smoke bombs into the stadium. Maybe a bit of both or does he play the "we are always the victim" card lake most on here are doing.

Most are not doing that at all.
We all know we have to find them and ban them. Simple as.

Is this more a case of cas fans desperate to get Wakefield in trouble, they haven't wrote so many e mails since they were opposing our stadium. How many of them have emailed the names of the 2 cowards punching wakefield fans leaving the ground which is worse behaviour in my book, I haven't seen anything from cas condoning that incident.

Yeah - I'm Spartacus.

I don't think the majority of Cas fans are trying to get Wakey fans in trouble. The usual suspect is at it but he's basically a troll masquerading as a decent fan and needs ignoring. The overall blame for the smoke bombs is with the party that brought them in IMO, which is why MC was so (rightfully) annoyed.

I now know what I feared that the inane spoutings from Stevo have entered the RL vernacular SIMPLE AS.

You can't have it both ways.
Its no good complaining about rigorous stewarding re. searching bags, not allowing opened drinks etc then complain about idiots who bring in items deemed dangerous or socially unacceptable.
So will we have further complaints against Trinity's more strict stewarding policy that has led to friction between some fans and the club?