The reason you are good on the field is down to who you signed ,Think we're we are in the league says a lot about the signings

Remember what Poching did at the end of last season well just maybe he can do it again

Always difficult with players who were once good but then were on the slide. Some carry on trying their best and want a successful final hurrah. We've had a number of those. Others see it as a step-down so they wind down everything, in terms of commitment and effort.

Lineham once upon a time was a good winger. He could have been a useful big-bashing winger, in a Ryan Hall kind of way, but we don't know how they are going to fare until they arrive. It turned out it was a waste of time, but we've maybe got it right more often than wrong.

Gaskell, for me, is a decent stand-off, with decent distribution and an eye for a gap and an opportunity. If Miller is keeping him out of the team, that should be the end of it. Playing him out of position is disastrous. He has no pace left and I can't still can't fathom when he was full back at Salford in place of Jowitt, because it was one of the worst full back performances I have seen. That isn't about recruitment. That is about selection.

Absolutely correct 100%

Apples and pears I think, you have to be good in business to survive, where as in sport it's more of a gamble backed up by business, I'd just make my own mind up and stick to it, it's your money you make the choice, it might just be somebody else's opinion that's wrong, not yours

The figure will be at least £150K (both will be on no less than £75K each,the going rate for players like these 2 are between £65 and 100k so yes anything from £150k to £200k will be what rets spent on these 2 players a season

Whose authority's that then?

His own by the soumd of it......

Took advantage? Or helped you out?
Did you need the money or not? Were the players up for sale or not- because as I understand it a club that holds a players registration doesn’t have to give it up…… if Davy hadn’t opened his cheque book someone else may have- or perhaps no one would have- which would have been the better option?
Ken Davy has said he has a particularly good relationship with Wakefield and hull KR, (he has never got on with FC due to personal differences with Pearson over the football shares).

Whatever they are 'earning,' I reckon Lineham & Gaskell will be on far more than say Hall & Whitbread who have been the best 2 signings we have made. Will Gaskell now be brought back in at full-back for the easy beats that are St Helens?!!!

I'm told that everything and everyone has it's price, and I'm sure Mr Davey is the essence of a perfect gentleman, my post was not about the individual himself or his ability to buy players on the advice of the coaching staff even you have to admit they've had their fair share, but just simply in the context of my post regarding your sudden urge to highlight our apparent failings and I'm just questioning your reasons for the personal concern from somebody like yourself who has been as brutal as you have in being critical of our club.

I'm afraid Gaskell was a huge mistake for you as i commented when he signed from us, totally rinsed us for 2 years, then played well in last year or so for a final contract, real mercenary and a sign that your management hadn't done their homework, we had been trying to offland gaskell for a long time before you finally came in for him

I don’t like the club no, and I’m afraid it’s either you or salford I would prefer to see going down and I just can’t see it being salford. I do however have a fascination for how the fans on here have behaved over the last few months it’s been particularly interesting watching the ups and downs on this forum and how things have changed since the start of the season- apart from Pop tart with the eternal optimism and reluctance to admit when things were going wrong, and downright refusal to admit mistakes that have been made by those in charge.
Vastmans hypocrisy of the highest order, telling people off for giving the criticisms he himself later gives and the meltdowns have been particularly funny.
But there are some genuine fans who support Wakefield who I feel sorry for because we have been where you are now and it’s not pleasant. For many years there was a couple who had ST in front of us who would bring their adult lad who would wear his Wakefield shirt to the giants games every week. I also have a friend who’s son is in the academy at Wakefield (he grits his teeth to put on the shirt- and it rankles he can’t wear his giants colours anymore) and that’s obviously a worry for him- but he’s a very bright lad - A* student - and will have other options.
The genuine fans will continue for the most part. The hurt wears off, you enjoy the rugby again and the championship is not a horrible place-apart from Fev the fans are decent, the food tends to be better and the beers cheaper!

Ahh there we see it.
Must be a sad life when you get your kicks coming on a forum you care nothing about, just to tell people you don't like their club.

Support your own team if you can. Leave us to support ours however we see fit.

I think there is more to her post than that tbh

We'll the feelings are mutual jools I dislike the Huddersfield club.

Jools Ha! Ha! What an effing saddo!

Isn't he doing his job then? are the bills not getting paid? where's the money come from for this last batch of players?
Please point out where he has said unfortunately nobody will put any money in so we'll just drift into oblivion.
If you can actually point out with some hard facts where he's not doing his job, please enlighten those who think that under the present circumstances he is actually doing okay.

This is the problem- many want to jump down on MC etc suggesting he’s tight, he’s a skinflint etc etc.
I say to them you go with your one pound coin and buy the club (believe MC has said in the past he will sell for a pound). Run the club as debt free as he has- oh and then sink 500k of your own money into it - no return, wave goodbye to it, and then you can complain.
Just be grateful we still have a club because you know we Wouldn’t have without M C at the wheel!

Short and sweet and perfectly summed up, nice one

can you blame her after years of waiting to win the challenge cup to fall so close, I said then she'd come on here at the back end of the season to gloat about our demise but seems she couldn't wait that long

Do you think that just "paying the bills" is the job of a CEO ?
One of his major roles if not the major is to keep our club in the elite level of rugby league,this is getting more and more unlikely year on year
Other major parts of his job include
Increase supporter base,increase major sponsors,improve facilities,be competitive in the competition,spend upto the salary cap to have the best on the field possible
All of the above bring in much needed revenue which makes the above easier and so on and so on.
Have any of the above been achieved?
Supporter numbers is horrendous (we are a BIG city compared to a lot of other teams),Major sponsorship not improved,facilities have not improved over his tenure (yes it is starting now but still not done),we are not competitive competitive in the competition and have been getting worse over time.We openly don't spend up to the salary cap unlike most if not all of the other clubs
I'm not saying he's not trying or not doing his best and hasn't done what he can for the club but these 3 things does not mean you are doing a good job
I know I keep referring to supermarkets but what would happen to the CEO of One of the big ones if they suddenly started dropping down the order of the bog boys,footfall dropped and they started lagging behind their other competitor's.
Do you think the statement of we are still paying the bills would suffice or would something else be done ?

So.
Ground improvements. He could have done little things to make it better but he's put his effort into a big project to make it permanently better, so is sustainable and long term. Success to me
Crowds are down across all clubs. We are in financially difficult times. So the measure should be in that context.
And also, it isn't really about the crowds, it's about the revenue generated. Its no good dropping prices to get larger footfall and make less money. That applies to Asda too.
Corporate boxes always seem pretty busy to me. I'd like to see your figures to say they are not good enough.
We can't just spend money we don't have.
I'm certain he isnt perfect. I don't know him but no chairman/CEO has done better in the last 50 years.

I feel you are thinking with your heart in the club and your loyalty to us
Take emotion and loyalty out of it and I think you would come up with a different view.
Do.you think ANYONE "outside" our club thinks that the club has been run successfully for the last 10 years Etc. (They see it without the emotion we have)
We are a BIG city compared to most of the other clubs and need to realise the potential we have not just drift along
Again I'm not saying his heart is not in it or isn't trying his best but is this good enough,we need to look at how and why other clubs have got the investment they have and follow suit

What I'm saying is you are not considering that Wakefield has never had big crowds in the last 50 years, even with good teams. We have been in admin a number of times.
So in that context, Carter is doing better than anyone else. We are not financially at risk. We were when he took over.
So I agree he hasn't made us a money making club, but nor has anyone else, and considering the reduced gates in covid times and the reduced Sky money this year, I reckon we've been quite successful.
I think you are thinking in the context of the on field performance.
We have a successful academy, which is well regarded by others and a reserve side before others were forced to do it. And we are not financially vulnerable. From what I can see, other clubs would very much like someone like Carter running their show.