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| Anybody know what the halftime draw numbers are I buy one every game but cannot hear the tannoy in the north stand been on the website but Cannot see the numbers there,thanks
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Opinions differ that's why !
I will also give you my opinion on something else. When every opposition coach looks at our pack I would think King is the last player that they will worry about.'"
All right. It wasn't particularly aimed at you.
You have as much right to be wrong as anyone else.
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| Hull FC is a must win for top 5 - lose this one and we can concentrate on the relegation battle
we will be 4 points off 5th no way back from there ..
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| It’s all well and good having a huge set of forwards but if their taking the ball up pedestrian like as on Sunday our go forward is stunted ,which has a knock on effect throughout the team .
Yes the conditions were poor and not a day for free flowing rugby ,but I expected a better performance from the team as a whole
Sadly we still don’t know which wakey team is going to turn up from game to game ,is this the coaching side of things at fault or just players attitudes or a bit of both .
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| Quote ="BOJ042"Hull FC is a must win for top 5 - lose this one and we can concentrate on the relegation battle
we will be 4 points off 5th no way back from there ..'"
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| It’s very hard to make any kind of momentum when the speed of the ruck is so slow. I don’t think our traditional ground / pitch helps when it pours it down. Give us a modern stadium and it’d no doubt suit us better.
I’ll be over at Hull on Friday cheering on the lads!!
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| is Rhubarb radio still calling the games?
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| Quote ="roverman"Anybody know what the halftime draw numbers are I buy one every game but cannot hear the tannoy in the north stand been on the website but Cannot see the numbers there,thanks'"
You'll find them on the twitter feed
Dreadnoughts
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Good Luck !
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| Thank you for that wrencat.
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| On the subject of our forwards - we're still not hitting the ball at pace, so a lot of their effectiveness is blunted by setting off from a standing start; Fifita can compensate for that by being such a big lump, but even he can't do the impossible. It's not a big ask to have them standing further back and hitting the ball with some momentum - is it?
In terms of specifics - King looks fairly ordinary to me, and he has a habit of running sideways instead of straight, which would be fine if he had an offload, but he doesn't appear to. Kopczak looks solid - and Hirst has, at best, stood still. We're big, but I'd trade 3 of ours for that headcase at Saints who appears to have no regard for his own personal safety.
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| Quote ="bren2k"On the subject of our forwards - we're still not hitting the ball at pace, so a lot of their effectiveness is blunted by setting off from a standing start; Fifita can compensate for that by being such a big lump, but even he can't do the impossible. It's not a big ask to have them standing further back and hitting the ball with some momentum - is it?
In terms of specifics - King looks fairly ordinary to me, and he has a habit of running sideways instead of straight, which would be fine if he had an offload, but he doesn't appear to. Kopczak looks solid - and Hirst has, at best, stood still. We're big, but I'd trade 3 of ours for that headcase at Saints who appears to have no regard for his own personal safety.'"
Seems strange to say it but I don`t think it suits Fifita`s game hitting the ball at pace, he seems to make more impact and yards from a standing start most of the time. If we could get PP fit and give him some good ball he could be devastating as we saw towards the back end of last season.
Completely disagree about King, don`t think he played too well against KR but every other game he has been one of the best forwards on the field, nothing fancy, runs it in 100% committed, finds his front every time, quick play the ball, very rarely gets dominated in the collision, was talking with Johnny Thompson about the low impact point, drop the shoulders and run in the gap, find your knees, very difficult to defend against and difficult to get that style right without picking up a lot of injuries but seems to come natural to King.
Hirst on the other hand although he looks strong but just does not have his running style right, he is too upright and more often than not gets dumped on his back
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| Quote ="bren2k"On the subject of our forwards - we're still not hitting the ball at pace, so a lot of their effectiveness is blunted by setting off from a standing start; Fifita can compensate for that by being such a big lump, but even he can't do the impossible. It's not a big ask to have them standing further back and hitting the ball with some momentum - is it?
In terms of specifics - King looks fairly ordinary to me, and he has a habit of running sideways instead of straight, which would be fine if he had an offload, but he doesn't appear to. Kopczak looks solid - and Hirst has, at best, stood still. We're big, but I'd trade 3 of ours for that headcase at Saints who appears to have no regard for his own personal safety.'"
I think it must be, because I can't remember a time when we've ever done it. It has been one of my biggest moans for years that our forwards are always taking the ball standing still and then having to try and gain some momentum rather than taking it at pace.
Just imagine Pauli Pauli taking the ball when already up to full speed, how much harder would he be to stop??
As for King, IMO he has done OK but he doesn't have the bulk needed to play at prop at the moment. He's brave but he still gets stopped far too easily.
I think for next game I would like to see
Hampshire
BJB
Lyne
Tupou
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Miller
Brough
Kopzcak
Wood
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Kirmond
Horo
Crowther
Fifita
Pauli Pauli - If England or Huby fit then they would get this place
Annakin
Arundel - Can quite easily play 2nd row
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| Quote ="Fordy"I think it must be, because I can't remember a time when we've ever done it. It has been one of my biggest moans for years that our forwards are always taking the ball standing still and then having to try and gain some momentum rather than taking it at pace.
Just imagine Pauli Pauli taking the ball when already up to full speed, how much harder would he be to stop??
As for King, IMO he has done OK but he doesn't have the bulk needed to play at prop at the moment. He's brave but he still gets stopped far too easily.
I think for next game I would like to see
Hampshire
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Lyne
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Miller
Brough
Kopzcak
Wood
Arona
Kirmond
Horo
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Pauli Pauli - If England or Huby fit then they would get this place
Annakin
Arundel - Can quite easily play 2nd row'"
You bemoan King's size and then want to bring in Annakin?
Matty A may be fit for Friday.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I think it must be, because I can't remember a time when we've ever done it. It has been one of my biggest moans for years that our forwards are always taking the ball standing still and then having to try and gain some momentum rather than taking it at pace.
Just imagine Pauli Pauli taking the ball when already up to full speed, how much harder would he be to stop??'"
Same - I watch some matches, not featuring us, and I see bodies in motion around the ptb - dummy runners and option runners, who confuzzle the defence a bit, and give the receiver a chance to hit the line with some venom; our method seems very basic, with no real options, just a forward receiving a telegraphed ball, standing still, then flopping into the defensive line - with the exception of Fifita, who always seems to make a few extra yards and can often offload, or rob a penalty due to the number of people it takes to stop him.
It's very frustrating to watch sometimes - and blunts the effectiveness of people like Kopczak and dare I say it Hirst, who has a fair turn of pace for a big lad.
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| The likes of Luke Thompson shows how to generate go forward by running onto the ball at pace.
Surely if Chester wanted the forwards hitting the ball at pace they would be by now ,as even after half time we stuck to the same take the ball from a standstill game plan.
As has been said get Pauli wide out and running onto the ball and he”ll take some stopping and drag players in and open up the field .
We seem to have a big pack but not as much go forward as we should have
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| Quote ="phe13"You bemoan King's size and then want to bring in Annakin?
Matty A may be fit for Friday.'"
What Annakin lacks in size he makes up for in aggressive running. Don't get me wrong if everyone is fit he doesn't get in the 17 but whilst we're missing England, Huby, Ashurst I'd be tempted to give him a go at bringing something a little different.
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| Quote ="Fordy"What Annakin lacks in size he makes up for in aggressive running. Don't get me wrong if everyone is fit he doesn't get in the 17 but whilst we're missing England, Huby, Ashurst I'd be tempted to give him a go at bringing something a little different.'"
Agree completely
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| As much as I lke Pauli He's very easy to tackle. Hirst just doesn't do it for me, He hasn't made it to Super league standard he'd be good in the championship. We have to start moving up on the opposition at the PTB we're just standing & waiting for them to come at us we've always played the same way, We always have problems against teams that do it to us probably because were slow at moving the ball. Still quite a bit of work to do I'm afraid. Up the TRIN
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| Quote ="Little willy"As much as I lke Pauli He's very easy to tackle. Hirst just doesn't do it for me, He hasn't made it to Super league standard he'd be good in the championship. We have to start moving up on the opposition at the PTB we're just standing & waiting for them to come at us we've always played the same way, We always have problems against teams that do it to us probably because were slow at moving the ball. Still quite a bit of work to do I'm afraid. Up the TRIN'"
Pauli He's very easy to tackle. ??
Are you serious ?
Ive never seen a player leave so many opposition players on the floor after the tackle.
Our problem is not using him enough.
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| Quote ="Little willy"As much as I lke Pauli =#FF0000He's very easy to tackle. Hirst just doesn't do it for me, He hasn't made it to Super league standard he'd be good in the championship. We have to start moving up on the opposition at the PTB we're just standing & waiting for them to come at us we've always played the same way, We always have problems against teams that do it to us probably because were slow at moving the ball. Still quite a bit of work to do I'm afraid. Up the TRIN'"
I'm sure if you asked any players in SL they would disagree with you!
As has been said, he wasn't used that well on Sunday.
I also think it showed how much we missed Matty Ashurst.
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| Have Wakey got another Pauli,one that Little Willy is talking about.Must admit I have never seen him,only seen the Pauli that puts the fear of God in Super League defences.Easy to tackle,I would have him in my team,and suspect most other teams would,in a heartbeat.
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| Hirst is not super league standard.
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| Quote ="Willzay"It would Be classic Trin if we went to the bigger Hull club and won.'"
The bigger Hull club is finding its mojo Willzay, we welcome all our friends from Wakey on Friday night, let’s hope the weather is conducive to a great game.
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| Quote ="Plateface"Have Wakey got another Pauli,one that Little Willy is talking about.Must admit I have never seen him,only seen the Pauli that puts the fear of God in Super League defences.Easy to tackle,I would have him in my team,and suspect most other teams would,in a heartbeat.[/qu
I suppose you could ask all those 'tacklers' he often takes over the line with him if he's easy to tackle!
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| Looks like the weather eases off a bit in Friday. Think the M62 bridge at Goole has been closed off this week???
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