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| Quote ="homme vaste"I would like for us to stick with Rocky and Miller, unless a halfback was available that was proven to guide a team round the field, someone in the Campese mold without the injuries.'"
Agreed, my worry is that we bring someone in from Oz, like Sam Williams last year, expecting big things but in reality they are no better than what we already have and Rocky ends up sitting on the sidelines...but i suppose that could happen with any new signing regardless of whether they are from Oz or not.
Thats not to say Williams would not of kicked on in his second season by the way.
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| Definitely stick. He had a great game tonight. He gets better by the match for me. He has been treated as a bit part player all his life. We thrive on letting talent grow. I've learned my lesson here. I have slagged Reece Lynn from pillar to post but time proved me wrong. Hampshire needs game time and a vote of confidence and I reckon we've got a good un
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| Quote ="charlie"We seem to be expecting that Hampshire would be dropped.........what about the other half back?'" Miller had a great game. Don't know which game you were watching
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| AGAIN nothin g in attack in the 20 m line miller and hampsire no go for me, time to look elsewhere
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Stick, he got a chance, he's shown he can operate at this level in his preferred position and can only get better. Whether the club and his representatives can agree on a deal seems to be the question though.'" Yes I have seen that rumour. If he wants top dollar he is kidding himself. He has a fair bit to prove at SL level yet, though I fancy he will. I don't commonly agree with Sky Sports comments but their comments on him tonight were spot on. If you haven't proved yourself in SL by 23 you are usually out. He is 25 and this is his chance to show he has it. If he thinks he can get cocky and make big demands on the back of some improving but not top drawer performances, well good luck Rocky, you're at the wrong club and I suspect you will be in the Championship before you can say Halifax
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| Quote ="BOJ042"AGAIN nothin g in attack in the 20 m line miller and hampsire no go for me, time to look elsewhere'"
Would that be the miller who has more assists than anyone else in SL?
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| Absolutely!
Miller is a mainstay in out attack
He's had another excellent season for us too
Anyone who thinks other wise a) doesn't watch us play or b) is defunct of any knowledge of the sport
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| I think our number 7 recruitment is one of the most important signings we will make as a club in years. I say this because we are so close to being a genuine top team
We have an exceptional team and squad
We need some one to come in and be the man for us and run the team and if that 7 is successful!
All you have to do is look at our points difference
We need a game manager, a Lee briers or a Danny Brough
There were 5-6 games we nearly won this season that we perhaps would have with the right SH
It's for rocky to prove that he can too as i agree with other posters, it's probably his last chance to do it at SL level in his favoured position
I would defo like to see rocky resign but he still needs to prove himself, he's not the finished article YET
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| Quote ="BOJ042"AGAIN nothin g in attack in the 20 m line miller and hampsire no go for me, time to look elsewhere'"
Are you going to stump up the cash to replace both of them?
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| From a neutral point of view I thought he was very quiet last night. Maybe it is because ot was Wigan and was trying too hard. That last tackle play where Lyne was done for obstruction was criminal and he should have been there demanding the ball. You guys have obviously seen him recently and highlights have shown him up well, but if he is demanding massive money on the back of a couple of top drawer games it says more about him or his agent than it does his talent. He always seems from the outer to be making demands such as half back or nothing at Wigan, big money from Wakey, without actually justifying it totally. I hope he turns out to develop to be top class as we need as much competition at international level as possible in the halves. Got to admit though I assume his agent won't help, seems a very egotistical man. He also showed the same trait with Jack Walker making him demand to be a full back at Leeds rather than develop as a player
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| Quote ="thepimp007"From a neutral point of view I thought he was very quiet last night. Maybe it is because ot was Wigan and was trying too hard. That last tackle play where Lyne was done for obstruction was criminal and he should have been there demanding the ball. You guys have obviously seen him recently and highlights have shown him up well, but if he is demanding massive money on the back of a couple of top drawer games it says more about him or his agent than it does his talent. He always seems from the outer to be making demands such as half back or nothing at Wigan, big money from Wakey, without actually justifying it totally. I hope he turns out to develop to be top class as we need as much competition at international level as possible in the halves. Got to admit though I assume his agent won't help, seems a very egotistical man. He also showed the same trait with Jack Walker making him demand to be a full back at Leeds rather than develop as a player'"
I agree he needs to just get on with the Rugby. Personally I think Wakefield are offering him his best chance possibly his last to really make it. If he and those around him can’t see it then they are kidding themselves.
I don’t give a stuff about the local boy nonsense or the ridiculous hype from Belly and others. He’s got a lot to prove and although he’s well worth a punt he isn’t worth breaking the bank for. If we and our money isn’t good enough then I wish him farewell and good luck.
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| I just hope his expectations are not based on the ridiculous contract he was on at Leigh. There's a place for him at Wakefield and chance to push on in the game that I do not believe he'll get elsewhere in Super League.
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| I'd personally keep him as back up he shows spells of what he can do.
I would sign a half and a quality fullback for me. Fullbacks are pivotal Jowett and grix don't have the X factor for me..
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I'd personally keep him as back up he shows spells of what he can do.
I would sign a half and a quality fullback for me. Fullbacks are pivotal Jowett and grix don't have the X factor for me..'"
Give over they are both more than decent so what’s the problem. To get better we’d have to go top end NRL and we can’t afford that and they arn’t available. Try and be realistic please we have far more pressing needs imo.
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| The fullback position is well covered by Jowett and grix in my opinion,yes both can have off days but what little money we have needs to be spent elsewhere in the team
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Miller had a great game. Don't know which game you were watching'"
Never said he didn't.
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| If we can't afford the really good players what are we doing playing in Super league surely we have got to have ambition we're not going to be a top four side if we haven't got the good players. It seems like we're just playing really to be a mid to lower team in super league & hope we get some poor teams in the Challenge cup so we have a chance of some silverware. Sometimes just sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate.
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| Quote ="wakey warrior"If we can't afford the really good players what are we doing playing in Super league surely we have got to have ambition we're not going to be a top four side if we haven't got the good players. It seems like we're just playing really to be a mid to lower team in super league & hope we get some poor teams in the Challenge cup so we have a chance of some silverware. Sometimes just sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate.'"
We've speculated and not accumulated a few times in the past and look where that got us. Until the people of Wakefield come through the turnstiles in greater numbers the club will always be fighting with one hand tied behind their back.
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| Quote ="wakey warrior"If we can't afford the really good players what are we doing playing in Super league surely we have got to have ambition we're not going to be a top four side if we haven't got the good players. It seems like we're just playing really to be a mid to lower team in super league & hope we get some poor teams in the Challenge cup so we have a chance of some silverware. Sometimes just sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate.'"
That’s not the issue here. Surely by signing long term players like TJ and Batch we have proved we will invest. The issue here seems to be the theory that the player or his agent values the player higher than the club does. It not about ambition a lack of ambition it’s simply a case of why would you pay any player more than you think he’s worth? There has to be a limit with every player where you just think there is better out ther for that kind of cash.
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| Quote ="vastman"That’s not the issue here. Surely by signing long term players like TJ and Batch we have proved we will invest. The issue here seems to be the theory that the player or his agent values the player higher than the club does. It not about ambition a lack of ambition it’s simply a case of why would you pay any player more than you think he’s worth? There has to be a limit with every player where you just think there is better out ther for that kind of cash.'"
I agree but what I'm saying is that one player could or might be the spark that gets us into the top four & competing for silverware I think that's all we're missing but I'm worried we won't/can't spend the money to get him
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| Quote ="wakey warrior"I agree but what I'm saying is that one player could or might be the spark that gets us into the top four & competing for silverware I think that's all we're missing but I'm worried we won't/can't spend the money to get him'"
In a physical sport like rugby league, you can't put all your eggs in one basket. One superstar and you can't afford the other decent players, and you are one injury from a disastrous season.
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| I agree with that too so what's the answer not try anything?
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| The answer short term for me is sort these sloppy plays out that sadly we are still doing even at this late stage of the season . Fitness wise we can keep pace with the best teams is those little things in the game that were missing, Don’t know if that’s a player thing or a coaching thing .when it all drops into place we beat the best , when it doesn’t we struggle.
We’re not far off and we have the playing roster , it’s the little bits we’re not doing right that are coming back to bite us time and again
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| Quote ="wakey warrior"[uIf we can't afford the really good players what are we doing playing in Super league surely we have got to have ambition we're not going to be a top four side if we haven't got the good players. It seems like we're just playing really to be a mid to lower team in super league & hope we get some poor teams in the Challenge cup so we have a chance of some silverware. [/uSometimes just sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate.'"
That isn't obvious, at all.
What are half the sides in SL doing in SL then?
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| Quote ="thepimp007"[ubut if he is demanding massive money on the back of a couple of top drawer games it says more about him or his agent than it does his talent.[/u He always seems from the outer to be making demands such as half back or nothing at Wigan,[u big money from Wakey,[/u without actually justifying it totally. I hope he turns out to develop to be top class as we need as much competition at international level as possible in the halves. Got to admit though[u I assume his agent won't help, seems a very egotistical man.[/u He also showed the same trait with Jack Walker making him demand to be a full back at Leeds rather than develop as a player'"
There's the crux of the matter, is he is demanding massive money on the top of a couple of top draw games, you don't watch Wakey and no nothing of his wage demands but your perception of him is that he seems to be holding out for an unrealistic contract out of greed, could it just be that he's asking for a reasonable contract in line with some of the lesser earners at the club and not wanting anything like the figures some people would have you believe, btw who is his agent?
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