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| Fair point but my point is that we need to start showing some more consistency and taking backwards steps each time we pull off a win.
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| Really pleased for Agar and the team. I have understood the fans frustrations and also emphasised with Agar. The players haven't been good enough and Agar has made some calls I wouldn't have gone with.
Whether you are Agar in or Agar out let's just give credit to 23 unanswered points, a win and a scoreless defensive second half. Well done Agar and well done the players for roughing out a great win.
There has been some justified and some unjustified criticism of Agar from people. It can be a lonely place for a coach. Well done Rich and I hope this continues for you
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| Of course he's had unfair critcism Willzay....
Two today for example.....slagging him off for picking Mathers over Fox and Lyne when the latter two are injured.....
Slated for dropping Mathers from full back and trying other options there when all and sundry were calling for Mathers to be dropped....
Expecting better results from Leeds twice, Huddersfield away, Cas at home, while in a period of still having to try things out due to hardly any pre season and signing key players late....
Criticised for picking Washbrook, saying it's his best mate, even though he's been nowhere near our worst player...
Criticised for bench changes when in four games this season we've lost a player for the complete match in the first 10-15 minutes....
As I said, he has made mistakes, but doesn't everyone.....in my opinion though he HAS had a lot of unfair criticism in many instances where he can't possibly do right for doing wrong!
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| Well said, Mick...+1 from me
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| I did point out that the two weeks would give us a chance to work on the team for the first time since the season started. We will also have played the vast majority of our matches away. We have also not had the opportunity to select from the same squad due to injuries.
I shall enjoy this victory because for the last few weeks I have heard nothing but the opinions of those with their own agendas.
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| Walshaw for centre coach him Mr Agar.
best game washbrook played for us its only taken him 3 years. maybe he's a centre all along lol. Ryan ran his blood to water again. Kirmond looked fresh.
what a win!
Can't wait to rush Reece Lynn bk into team
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| Quote ="Willzay"Unfair criticism what a load of tosh'"
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| Great result, well done to all involved, including those who made the trip over to cheer them on .
After the disappointment regarding the new ground what a great pick me up.
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| Quote ="El Rey"I've always believed he would come good in the end
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We are a long way off the end yet!
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| Said in another thread we have been with a lesser team and won. On paper this team Looks half decent once they all get firing and working for each other then wins will come more frequent.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"We are a long way off the end yet!'"
Oh i'm firmly perched on the fence, could tumble either way no doubt about it.
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| If he plays Mathers on the wing one more time, I'll personally throw a custard pie at him at the next game (if i can reach). That is all.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Of course he's had unfair critcism Willzay....
Two today for example.....slagging him off for picking Mathers over Fox and Lyne when the latter two are injured.....
Slated for dropping Mathers from full back and trying other options there when all and sundry were calling for Mathers to be dropped....
Expecting better results from Leeds twice, Huddersfield away, Cas at home, while in a period of still having to try things out due to hardly any pre season and signing key players late....
Criticised for picking Washbrook, saying it's his best mate, even though he's been nowhere near our worst player...
Criticised for bench changes when in four games this season we've lost a player for the complete match in the first 10-15 minutes....
As I said, he has made mistakes, but doesn't everyone.....in my opinion though he HAS had a lot of unfair criticism in many instances where he can't possibly do right for doing wrong!'"
Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
I think the Chinese call it ying and yang
Up the cats = Ying
Willazy = Yang
Certainly a great win though, KC FM in meltdown again
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| Quote ="Willzay"Unfair criticism what a load of tosh'"
Terrible peformances week after week tend to make me critical. I get stick for being constantly negative. OK well done. If you win at Hull that is a great win and a great effort when its all been going badly wrong in the weeks leading up to it. The citicism was justified, not unfair. Today..good effort, well done. Lets see what happens for the rest of the season. Most of all, well done to the fans who had the guts to risk more dismal misery and got a nice surpise. I couldnt take it to be fair so I hold my hands up. Must try harder.
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| Quote ="supercat"Said in another thread we have been with a lesser team and won. On paper this team Looks half decent once they all get firing and working for each other then wins will come more frequent.'"
I hope you are right. I think the players we have look decent on paper too, hence my belief Agar is the wrong man, given our perfomances this year and last. I've read this is typical Agar; always comes up with a win when he's on the edge of the sack(not that he was, though he ought to have been), maybe thats true. Maybe not. Always said, happy for him to pove me wrong. I take no joy in seeing Trinity get spanked. Ill kiss his feet if he turns it ound or anything else...just hasn't looked likely that will happen over the past 2 1/2 yrs to me and it will take a bit more than today to make me feel otherwise.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I think the Chinese call it ying and yang
Up the cats = Ying
Willazy = Yang
Certainly a great win though, KC FM in meltdown again
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Indeed. I thought I was negative
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
What an absolute .......
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| Quote ="Mick Amos 9 WTW"Really pleased for Agar and the team. I have understood the fans frustrations and also emphasised with Agar. The players haven't been good enough and Agar has made some calls I wouldn't have gone with.
Whether you are Agar in or Agar out let's just give credit to 23 unanswered points, a win and a scoreless defensive second half. Well done Agar and well done the players for roughing out a great win.
There has been some justified and some unjustified criticism of Agar from people. It can be a lonely place for a coach. Well done Rich and I hope this continues for you'"
Yes. Ive been firmly in the Agar out camp but it would be churlish to be down on a day like today. I couldnt believe what I was listening to and though I wish Id had the moral fortitude to risk another afternoon of grinding frustration, the sound of the Trinity fans on Radio Humberside was incredible and lifted my spirits from the dismay of the NM fiasco and themany awful performancs of this season.
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
Wy dont you give it a rest Vasty you clown!
Just as I thought you couldnt get any dumber following you quoting my post on the 6 & 7 thread you go and trump yourself....
Your credibility as a poster on these boards to me is now ZERO....
Shame, because however controversial you have been on this board and others in the past I've always had respect for you.....gone now though without any shadow of a doubt....
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
I have never been in the pro Agar space... But this is just silly!
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| Quote ="vastman"Give it a rest Mrs Agar - all and I mean all the criticism he has got was fully deserved and totally self inflicted. Great result but to use it to wash away all his sins is a bit pathetic.'"
Whight coat time for you Vasty
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