AG's doing ok for me, got us out of administration and has provided Kear with plenty of decent signings that Kear as usual hasn't been able to make shine. I think AG is waiting to see where we are after Franchise announcements to reveal the bigger picture.
He's far from the cloak and dagger of Ted, cringeworthy Di and their men in black.

AG is doing a good job in my opinion.

Some of the points on the OP are nothing to do with him so just throwing mud around to try and make a point.
If you look at the other areas around the club, some big some small there has been a major change. I've been impressed with his contribution.

The playing side is not really his responsibility, apart from the funding.

Which signings are these then?

what he said.

Andrew Glover is a victim of his own publicity on this one, he talked sense, he had plans and he assumed RL was a rational game...oh dear. In real terms he's done OK but he hyped things up for the best of reasons without understanding the beast. This is a club with a 40 year history of false dawns and broken promises. Expectations are low but tolerance levels are even lower, it's best at Trinity to talk up what's happen rather than be optimistic about what might but probably won't happen. So embittered are Trin fans they are primed and ready to attack any perceived failure regardless of how reasonable the excuses.

I was considered as anti Glover a few month back because I didn't go for it and believed that all we'd seen was cosmetic, which wasn't a dig it was realism. We had a great April and expectations went through the roof and here we are which didn't help.

I said at the time it's all hunky dory now but a few big losses and it will be carnage on here - first Kear - now Glover and it will only get worse. It's only a matter of time before Dolly the tea lady comes under pressure. Doesn't matter now the claws are out. People lash out on here in a way they surely can't do in real life, it's amazing really. They just want somebody to make us great again and don't want to wait.

To say Andy Glover didn't know much about RL is an understatement - If I had a small personal fortune I wouldn't waste a penny of it on WT and I love the club. It's just a hiding to nothing.

I don't think he's the messiah, I think he's out of his depth but just like previous regimes he's saved a club that been on life support for generations - for that alone he has my support, but then why wouldn't he as there was no one else mad enough to take it on.

You really write some utter cr*p - we have made absolutely no major signings under AG tenure. I don't know why, maybe there are good reasons but the fact remains we have signed virtually no one.

Which points?

Hes the owner of the club everything concerning the club is to do with him.

I think that the highlighted point is absolutely bang on, and i think from day one he was aware of the power to alienate himself from the support by following the track laid by the previous regime.
Why has he talked up two events that have left many supporters feeling flat? i don't know, maybe he would like to let everyone know the score on that.
What we all need to see however is the bigger picture, and its very difficult, as supporters we have a lot of negativity, over the coach, the players, our past history and the franchise system and constant speculation it causes.
Our relative success's lead supporters to believe a little too much is available with this squad, at the start of the season i was expecting results like the one against Hull KR most weeks. The coach is picking players nobody can understand why, pressure is mounting in the franchise race and we all know where we have been left in that particular scheme.
What i aren't buying into though is your belief that you're some kind of mystic, most people on here know only too well why you "were" anti glover, and lets be honest when things have gone better than we hoped, you softened your stance, now however you are claiming divine gifts.


Lets no waste time raking over the coals, because you and i will never agree, what is important is that as a club and as a group of supporters we stay strong and turn up for the remaining games, we all knew this season was going to be a tough one and so it has proven to be, but hopefully from adversity we will emerge stronger.
July 26th will let us know where we stand and what kind of future the RFL see's fit for us to have
A message for Mr Glover, if you are reading this.
Take head from the mistakes of the past, you know that if you treat the fans with respect they will respond, that has been evident in the rise in attendances, matchday sales, memberships etc.
A clear message of intent will calm many nerves, but no false promises or you will prove to be no more than the double glazing salesman, some claim you to be.

12 months ago if you did a topic on types of people not to trust I'm sure double glazing salesman would be near top of the list, at the end of the day that is what he is. He's a long way to go before he becomes a knight in any armor. I would like to see an in depth interview with Mr Glover explaining the decision to not replace Jeffries amongst other things.

This is the point Kinley, the old regime was AG 17 years ago. They were once popular full of ideas and vigour, very popular at one point not that anyone admits it now. They lasted 17 years but slowly they lost their way and in a n attempt to match expectation eventually lost the plot and the will and then the trust. It wasn't deliberate any more than AG's shortcomings are. All it shows is what a Pandoras box this club is and just what an almost impossible club it is to run. We simply are not able to make the step up from SL survivors - we came close a few years back but couldn't sustain it.

It's not which regime it is that matters, it's the club historical failings that sucks the life it.

Basically the expectations of our fans is way beyond what the old club and now the new club are capable of satisfying. If we don't get NM this club will simply not be able to keep up in SL and will just wither away IMO. TBH it no longer matters what Kear does or Glover it's all down to Yorkcourt and the City Planners - RL is a different world these days.

I may be in the minority here but I fail to see how not replacing Jeffries was Glover's decision. As he has stated enough times in the past he knows very little about the playing side of things. Surely the decision not to replace a player falls squarely at the feet of the coaches. I an pretty certain nobody has come out and said we got rid of Jeffries on the say so of Mr Glover and are not allowed to replace him. Like it was earlier stated he apparently released Millard too, but if my memory serves Millard went whilst we were in administration.

Seriously people are screaming for these quality signings but who are they???

How do we as a club attract players to come join us when they may well be leaving again come the end of the season?

Although the jury is still out on our current regime. Ultimately franchising is the reason there is no activity on the player recruitment front.

We would all love to see the cheque book opened and players signed, but that is because we are talking as supporters and as we are all aware supporting the club and running the club are two very different beasts. Ask yourself this, if you were running the club and had no idea where the future lie (because it wasn't your decision). What would you do??

I have never run a business but even I would guess it doesn't make good economical sense to throw money at something just for the sake of it.

First thing I would do is win the fans trust which he has not done, honesty is the only option in my opinion, was he honest in his build up for the meeting? Was he honest in the build up to the signing of semi? Has he been honest in the "I am mr detail" statement, I am overall happy with the changes he has made I'm not happy about the tell fans what they want to hear, it didn't work for Ted, it will not work for Mr Wright and it will not work for mr Glover, all good things come to an end, John Kear 12 months ago could have had a contract for life here with mist supporters but know I'm guessing at least 60-70% would like him to walk, if Mr Glover would like to see out another few years I would suggest he starts being open and honest about where the club are heading.

The thing with the franchise carry on is that we are in limbo until we get told yes or no, so he cant really say where we are going because actually he doesn't know.
Everything else in your post is bang on though.

Some of the things you mention happened before he took over.

True, but he can give us his vision for either way be it SL or champs. If I remember right when he registered on here at the time of the takeover he wanted to communicate with the fans, so far I see very little of that apart from, the meeting which I still stand by what I said at the time regards that, the organization was shocking (mr detail), I have seen nothing yet to suggest we are any better off than before he took over, he got the club for peanuts, he's spent a few quid here and there to polish the turd so to speak but very little else, this season reading the headlines coming from the club, we should have signed 2 awesome players (turned out to be no signing and the semi signing). I will not judge him on if we get a franchise or not due to his short time in the post and also not really caring but I will judge the man on if I feel he has lied to me which I feel he has. Trust is the most important factor here, and for me he is losing that trust, already there are a few who are questioning him, how long before we find ourselves in another Ted situation?

Sadly that excuse doesn't work.

Trinity ceased to be a viable club in the early 1980's, but it's never been accepted as an excuse.

Added to that the new club is all new with no historical debt etc so that excuse doubly doesn't stand up.

Correct Vastman, and the criticism he receives for failing to deliver will be equally justified.
The old regime, not only failed to improve our lot they actually left us in a far worse state in the end, Mr Glover MUST find a way to deliver or history will treat him the same.
My belief is that he has started off well, he (or someone) has cocked up certainly with the signing debacle on friday, the CC meeting I'm not sure about, i heard there was and still are, things ongoing regarding more good news from that, but if we achieve the 5000 members and start earning money through club 1873 to plow into junior development, then to me that will have been a success (though maybe not quite of the historic proportions claimed).
One way to maintain support is to communicate, it is so hugely important to the fans, but not to over egg the pudding so to speak. We all live and breathe the club and want to know how things are going.
Between now and the 26th in particular the club should be in constant communication, to show us that they are doing everything possible, of course we know all that, but we also want reassurance as well.

We'll have to differ on this one, I actually think the old regime left us with a chance - Newmarket - and as such left us in a better state than any previous regime. It matters not one jot that the old Trinity went bust, that was inevitable as it's inevitable this regime will go pop without NM. The fact is that however bad it got under Ted there was enough left to attract another invester - that was a step up from 10 years ago when Pearman stuffed us.

Since SL the only thing that has mattered is keeping us in the game in the hope that one day all will come right - survive survive survive and for that I'm grateful to Ted and AG. We may be as little as 6 month fron total salvation or utter devastation, but hell at least we will know

The thing that worries me with threads like this is that someone who is not knowledgeable but is influencial may believe that this is a majority view.
When we are just discussing which coach you would prefer, I'm happy to join in and it is all good healthy debate. When we start "Kear out" threads or "What has AG ever done for us?" Monty Python threads then they are more emotive and more dangerous. I don't want to get rid of them but they just need to be understood.
Loudest doesn't mean majority. It does sometimes mean that those that don't know will follow blindly and skew the flow of debate.
All I'm saying is be careful what you wish for and if you do have an opinion, speak up rather than staying silent and let it get out of hand because it degenerates into a name calling session (God forbid on here eh?!?)

Anyway, after my preaching session, I still think AG (or more accurately his team) is good for us.
Just looking at the advertising and corporate hospitality that has increased in both volume and quality or the planned changes to the ground. neither are exactly investments for AG. He isn't going to ever get a return on this. He is doing it to improve life for the Wakefield Trinity club and ultimately the fans.
It's fairly well known that unless you are investing in Chelsea or Man United you are only "giving" money to sustain a hobby by putting money into a club. At best you get free advertising space, which is no small thing but still not the investment people sometimes think.

For the club to grow and suceed as a business, and have a long term Super League future, the work is in the back office not on the field. We've seen what happens when you only invest in the team.....and not just our own example. If he generates financial interest or improves the facilities enough to bring more fans then great. He's done his job, whether we come last in the league or not.

So AG may not be the Messiah in terms of taking us to a Grand Final......but he's certainly a Moses, taking us through the dark days and leading the way to the future. Even if only because he is the only one wanting to do it. And even if that road leads via a lower division, I'm still following.

for me there are several problems with mr glover’s tenure at the club. the first being not one of genuine continuity of the team running the club, but the fact that he cleared out virtually the entire building and hasn’t replaced them. this has really left us with only mr elston and mr kear with any background in the operation of an rl club. this is at best naïve. kear is a good coach, but we’ve all seen that his judgement is as much miss as it is hit when it comes to player selection (jones-bishop and mcgilvery to name but two in the last 9 months).

if we take kear out of the coaching equation for next year, then really all we have is elston to make footballing decisions. i wonder if this is why we’ve already interviewed at length richard agar who is quite friendly with.

we haven’t replaced bj. he wasn’t up to the mark in my book, but he’s better than we have. kear and elston are playing a tune which isn’t helping wakefield, and either mr glover is simply saving his brass, or he can’t see it. i would bet that mr glover’s wage bill is less now for players than when he took over. this will hit us through the turnstyles.

indications so far is that he’s bitten off more than he can chew from an rl side of things, way to early to say from a business perspective.

Which things happened before he took over?

Actually, now you've made me re-read your post, I unequivocally take my comment back. I misread the Millard/Jeffries part.
I still think you are being harsh but there was nothing wrong with your facts stated.

Giving Jeffries away, allowing Millard to leave ,not sacking Hickey on sight, signing Semi, allowing Semi and Hickey to walk straight into the team, falling out with Robo , allowing Renaldi and Griffin to drop their committment levels once they had signed for new clubs for next season, not giving Anakin and Walshaw first team rugby etc etc tell me that the group who are making rugby decisions are doing a poor job.

Jeffries was our very best player we encouaraged him to go as soon as Bradford asked about him, a really really bad move.

Now the palyers have given up just when the SL licence decisions are to be made, how very easy we have made it for them. We are getting thrashed every week and we are signing overseas dross who get in the team instead of young English players.

You just couldn`t make it up.

From what i am told if we do stay in superleague next 3 years we will need someone else on board with money as well.

Cheers.

Maybe i am been harsh -- im undecided.

Maybe as others have stated all will become clearer after the 26th July.