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| Whatever we're left with after two weeks of sales will be the starting point of a new squad, with any number of players gone there will be room on the wage bill to bring in some fresh blood.
Who knows it may actually be a good thing to strip the squad back to the bare bones and hang some new flesh on the skeleton.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Whatever we're left with after two weeks of sales will be the starting point of a new squad, with any number of players gone there will be room on the wage bill to bring in some fresh blood.
Who knows it may actually be a good thing to strip the squad back to the bare bones and hang some new flesh on the skeleton.'"
This could well happen so it is a bloody good job we are playing Catalans and Salford in the next 2 weeks when we could well be loosing most of the 1st team squad as opposed to Saints and Wigan.
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| Quote asked my little un what he wanted to do if we weren't in super league and he said "watch wakey" followed by "wakey till i die!" that was important to me to know i have brought him up so well....'"
that's what's needed. I'm a cas supporter... I go to most games every season, but tend not to buy a season ticket or a shirt, the only exceptions to this was the 2 championship league seasons. That's when the club needs it supporters.
It's easy to support a team in the good times... It's more important to support them through the less good times
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| Quite possibly but it will make painful viewing in the next couple of weeks. I'd imagine the only signings we could make would be young British kids to complement the ones we manage to hang on to. No overseas signings allowed for 3 months and can't see many experienced players being available at this early stage.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Whatever we're left with after two weeks of sales will be the starting point of a new squad, with any number of players gone there will be room on the wage bill to bring in some fresh blood.
Who knows it may actually be a good thing to strip the squad back to the bare bones and hang some new flesh on the skeleton.'" I take it that glover can't open the cheque book until all debts have been cleared if this so then I would like to know the difference between us and the crusaders
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Sorry but the Administrator is only doing his job and that's to pay as much as he can to the Creditors. He did not get us into the crap where we are now we managed to get there ourselves and we only have ourselves to blame. By we I'm referring to the Management of the Club. If he had received an acceptable offer he would not still be selling off assets to pay creditors - I cannot see how he has received an offer he is happy to accept otherwise we would not be where we are now/
As Snowie has said just tell us the truth. Why did Parkin withdraw. Has Glovers bid been accepted or not. Why are players being sold. What future do we have.'"
Forgive an intrusion from a concerned outsider. But that perfectly sums up precisely my assessment. Add in "What were the terms of Glover's bid?"
This is not going according to script. Maybe the due dilligence has turned up some unexpected further nasties, maybe its something else, but it looks very worrying to me.
Good luck guys. Its looking more and more like you are going to need it. Big mistake being called Wakefield not Wrexham.
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| Like some others have said, why have we gone from Glover saying no players will be sold, to what's happening toady.Surely knowing what we've been through with Ted, he would have been truthful because there would have been no point in lying. You defo get the impression that somethings happened between Friday and today and at the moment it's hurting my brain.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Like some others have said, why have we gone from Glover saying no players will be sold, to what's happening toady.Surely knowing what we've been through with Ted, he would have been truthful because there would have been no point in lying. You defo get the impression that somethings happened between Friday and today and at the moment it's hurting my brain.'"
He will have known, they dont just sell a player that quick, this is why parkin has pulled out, because he knew we were destined for nl1 and our top players were to be sold off
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| Quote ="Return Of The Saint"He will have known, they dont just sell a player that quick, this is why parkin has pulled out, because he knew we were destined for nl1 and our top players were to be sold off'"
Why would he say no players to be sold on Friday then? It is not a good way to start with your new customers is it?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Why would he say no players to be sold on Friday then? It is not a good way to start with your new customers is it?'"
well in a way it isn't a lie, as he has been sold today, its not upto him, the administrators will do everything in their power to settle debts first then try to sell it as a going concern, the the HMRC don't accept an agreement then they will have to liquidate the club, but he will be aware of the position, and more to go i fear
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Why would he say no players to be sold on Friday then? It is not a good way to start with your new customers is it?'"
Exactly, doesn't make sense. If this would have been announced on the day, I'm sure more people would be taking it better, instead of this getting all excited and looking forward and then a big time downer again.
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| Quote ="Return Of The Saint"well in a way it isn't a lie, as he has been sold today, its not upto him, the administrators will do everything in their power to settle debts first then try to sell it as a going concern, the the HMRC don't accept an agreement then they will have to liquidate the club'"
He didn't say no players will be sold today (ie Friday when he agreed the deal), he said no players will be sold. As others have said you would have known on the Friday it could happen and not made the comment or you believed the deal had been struck including all assets (incl players)
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Why would he say no players to be sold on Friday then? It is not a good way to start with your new customers is it?'"
And thats the biggest dubfounded statement that has ever been released on the website if the list of possible departees becomes true in the next few days.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"He didn't say no players will be sold today (ie Friday when he agreed the deal), he said no players will be sold. As others have said you would have known on the Friday it could happen and not made the comment or you believed the deal had been struck including all assets (incl players)'"
but when he said that did he think that he would be in full control, maybe things have taken another twist
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| Quote ="The Clan"Who knows it may actually be a good thing to strip the squad back to the bare bones and hang some new flesh on the skeleton.'"
We won't be doing that though, will we? We'll be giving away the choice cuts and leaving ourselves the odd finger-scoop under the bone that turns out tasty and a bit of offal that we might spice up into a meal. It'll be a makeshift 17 for sure. What chance another Wally Lewis style signing for the last 10 games?
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| I wasn't trying to stir it last week, but the brutal fact that an announcement on the trinity website is not an official takeover. I said it seemed a little odd... It may be a verbal agreement with a good intentions to see it through, but once it's in the hands of the administrators then it's up to them to decide the best FOR THE CREDITORS not the club. until you come out of administration it's not owned by anyone apart from the administrators. Any ownership after that will be put to the creditors to vote on (I think they need 75% of the vote - based on debt)
It may have been that HMRC had the requisite percentage of debts owed that they could basically give the nod to the administrators to say "get the best deal" and then they'd just sign off on what they could get.
but It may be that SRW's donation that turned into a loan meant that the HMRC no longer had the required percentage and that it'd have to go to a vote.
I honestly don't know...
what did seem odd was the announcement on the website, it seemed more just to give a boost to the players, the fans and get some positive PR before the weekend, but how legally binding and how solid a deal it is only time will tell
(by the way - if it is just a PR stunt it suggests that the potential new owners are playing the same game as previous owners)
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| Maybe the Administrator received no fee for the players leaving? Maybe the deal was for the other club merely to take on and honour their package and contractual rights? To significantly cut the wages bill and maybe reduce the non-fed trained? In which case no player would actually have been sold as such...?
Maybe the RFL insisted on this to protect all the players' existing contractual positions?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Maybe the Administrator received no fee for the players leaving? Maybe the deal was for the other club merely to take on and honour their package and contractual rights? To significantly cut the wages bill and maybe reduce the non-fed trained? In which case no player would actually have been sold as such...?
Maybe the RFL insisted on this to protect all the players' existing contractual positions?
Just a thought?'"
Thats the bit that Im sure we will never know, the actual transfer fees of all these that are leaving, if there was a transfer fee at all. I know theoretically the transfer fee becomes non existant anyway as we cant do anything productively with it anyway, as in buying a replacement, but it would be interesting to see what sort of deals have been struck in comparison to the figures you actually believe these players are worth.
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| Obst, Millard, Jeffries - three overseas players. Are there any other foreign players with non-EU passports? Are they deliberately trimming the squad down to EU only players?
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| Whatever the rights and wrongs of what's been done by the management in the past, I wish you all the best. Horrible situation to be in watching your club in dire straits - I remember seeing the Leeds team disintegrate in 1995-96, and it wasn't pleasant.
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| Well reading these threads most of the evening it seems obvious that some thing's gone tits up over the weekend and unfortunately I don't see any way back for Wakefield
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| Quote ="Disney cat"Well reading these threads most of the evening it seems obvious that some thing's gone tits up over the weekend and unfortunately I don't see any way back for Wakefield
Right now I'm very much a doom & gloom merchant
'" that's why if some announcement of what is happening can lighten the blow.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Why would he say no players to be sold on Friday then? It is not a good way to start with your new customers is it?'"
Sorry to be correct and all that, done deals, more to follow i believe
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