No doubt the councillors and the people that are objecting to these proposals are probably on mega bucks every month, they don't care if this project creates a few thousand jobs for a few thousand grateful people.

or are retired and have their mortgage paid off!

Guys, calm down, well just a little!



The new seat of Elmet and Rothwell is now a marginal and is no. 107 of the Tories hit list. The old seat of Elmet was Tory but now Rothwell has been added it would be predicted to be a Labour Seat and the Tories requiring a projected 11.4% swing (based on 2005 results from both seats) to them to take this new seat. As such it is no surprise to me that all the candidates are all making a fuss of what would appear (and I use the term appear quite purposefully) to be a rising local issue. They might currently be local councillors but one of them will be the MP soon and they all want it to be them.

What better way to bring about local support and votes by saying they object to it. Of course, it has nothing to do with them and is outside their constituency, but which ever one wins the seat will I am sure fight hard, even against their own party, to stop this development! When they don't succeed (which they probably won't) they will be of course tell everyone how hard they tried and ultimately they did everything they could. You need to think sly now, that is what they are doing!

Also for the Tory, it is next to the seat that Ed Balls currently occupies and also will contest in the new Outwood & Morley seat. Although the Tories are not targeting the seat as such, as the predicted swing required is huge (20%), they are going all out to attack Balls personally and as a current government Minister and Anthony Calvert is talking about a possibly 'Portillo' moment! They would like to see Balls majority reduced substantially at best.

As for Leeds City Council as a whole, Ed Balls, Anthony Calvert, the Lib Dem (????), the three current councillors for ward 15 (Stanley & Outwood) and the candidates for ward 15 are all keeping (in public) quiet... at least for the moment! That should tell you much about what you need to know!

You are Jon Snow, and I claim my £5!

Oh, and also the largest employers and the majority of the jobs in which will be their new constituency of Elmet and Rothwell, do not rely on these types of developments or lower skilled workers however, Outwood and Morley does!

To quote the BBC website about both areas -

"Elmet and Rothwell is a mixture of rural communities and small towns stretching around the east of Leeds. Its electoral wards are Garforth and Swillington, Harewood, Kippax and Methley, Rothwell and Wetherby. The constituency is named after the town of Rothwell and the last Celtic kingdom in Britain to be overrun by the Anglo-Saxons.

Rothwell is the main market town in the former mining area, which also includes the smaller Garforth and Swillington. =#FF0000These are all now primarily commuter towns for Leeds. Though all the mines have been closed, many former miners still live in the vicinity with associated health problems.

=#FF0000To the north is the affluent market and racing town of Wetherby.

Outwood & Morley

"The areas traditional industries, such as textiles in Morley and mining in Outwood, have all but vanished, but =#FF0000the constituency has made a good recovery, buoyed by a diversified economy and the proximity to the booming city of Leeds.

The constituency is at the crossroads of the M1 and M62 motorways, and =#FF0000employers include engineering and distributive trades, many on industrial estates.

The area has become commuter territory and new housing is threatening to join up the villages between the two cities into something more like a single giant suburb."

No, and actually I have proof because I actually (literally & physically) bumped into him just up from Holborn Circus the other year... so we have been seen together in public! True story!

A number of points:

1 It's a bad news story - but the last 2 paragraphs answer the first dozen -without divulging much detail.
2 It was seemingly the prospective MP's who contacted YEP - who knows.
3 IF YEP wanted to put a balanced feature together - then they know where to come?
4 I seriously wonder where Tony Gardner lives - he was not very receptive!
5 They have quoted the 4% figure - which is wholly inaccurate.
6 They are seen on the site (as KK pointed out) which is private!
7 They are LEEDS Mp's - not Wakey - and should do their homework before sticking their nebs in!
8 Leeds councillors may be in the dark (through lack of doing their own research), but LCC are well aware of what is proposed and have had a say in it's production.

It's not nice to see stuff like this, but we remain confident that what is proposed is proportional, representative of the needs of this authority (and fits a bigger picture for the region), is well put together technically and will meet all or most of the criteria required of it.

Keep strong folks - and if you haven't registered support by now - go to the swag website - [urlhttp://www.swag-online.co.uk[/url- and do it - NOW!

Here, here!

When I spoke to York hall developers they said the ground is the 1st priority before anything. The residents at Methley who I have spoke to are not against the ground just the industrial stuff. So lets get the ground built and let them protest about the rest. The rest has nothing to do with us (wakey fans).

You spoke to the wrong people then. Yorkcourt developers are the ones planning this development, and no industrial units means no ground.

Don't be so naive - if there is no industrial development - there is no stadium!

That's a long way from what you were told - which in itself is correct - that if this all gets PP, the stadium comes first. That's how the contracts are written!

Wot he said!

Quote ="newgroundb4cas"When I spoke to York hall developers they said the ground is the 1st priority before anything. The residents at Methley who I have spoke to are not against the ground just the industrial stuff. So lets get the ground built and let them protest about the rest. The rest has nothing to do with us (wakey fans).'" I suspect you know the details and are just trolling however, you can guarantee that if the development was going to be just the stadium you would still get the objections about the location, we saw this before the full details were revealed in the Express and at the www.idontwantanythingbuiltnearme.com website.

Quote ="newgroundb4cas"When I spoke to York hall developers they said the ground is the 1st priority before anything. The residents at Methley who I have spoke to are not against the ground just the industrial stuff. So lets get the ground built and let them protest about the rest. The rest has nothing to do with us (wakey fans).'" I suspect you know the details and are just trolling however, you can guarantee that if the development was going to be just the stadium you would still get the objections about the location, we saw this before the full details were revealed in the Express and at the www.idontwantanythingbuiltnearme.com website.

Completely agree with all of that. There's even the considerable likelihood that such intra-party spats have been sanctioned at national level... you know, show the local candidate to be his/her own man/woman, and when the results have been counted, we'll all go back to where we were. One party could profit by having 2 candidates with completely opposing ideas on this issue.

Taking the stadium out of the equation completely for one moment: If the developer is correct, and the site generates, say, 1,000 new jobs, that could mean something in the region of 10 million pounds per annum for the local economy in wages alone. There would either have to be very serious and insurmountable structural or ecological issues with the development, or you'd have to be as thick as pig to turn down such an investment with a depressed local economy and the national economy in the state it's in.

It doesn't mean to say you have to support the development at all costs. Objections are not necessarily a bad thing - they can fine-tune a development to meet everyone's needs, or highlight important issues that for one reason or another may have been overlooked - but if the objections are looked at and suitable measures put in place to address them, then there's little scope for further complaint, other than "well, I still don't like it!"

Did any of these residents have a problem with the Coal mine that used to be there with unsightly pit stacks and pit head and the rumblings of coal laden trucks that used to travel up and down the roads at all hours??? No they didnt because theyve all probably moved in after this and are quite happy with their semi rural lifestyle. you lot (a dozen of you) on newmarket lane get a grip, stop moaning and button it. as for you lot at methley probably mostly cas fans just because your plans for a stadium has hit the rocks stop trying to put the skids under ours!!!!

You are having a tin bath, for someones who's usualy on the ball

Yes, because all Cas fans live in Methley. Get a grip.

any chance we can have a poll of people who live in methley then we may be able to prove my theory that the area is "probably mostly cas fans". It didnt actually say that all cas fans live in Methley that would be absoloutely stupid!!! Its like saying that all Manchester United fans live in Manchester!!! well done bayern.

My god! Monty Python couldn't have done a better job of this script!

Give it a rest will ya - what will be will be and I'm certainly not going to be doing any crowing - before, during or after events happen.

This has to be one of the most tedious threads in the history of the forum!

but at least its taken the thoughts off the wigan game

It's not helping!

then send in the clowns

I think our 'clown quota' is full!

My own personal POV is that the MP's are now involved because of May 6th and they are out to cover their own backs. As far as some of the comments about the industrial section of the site, it would be interesting to know how many of these objectors are planning on applying for jobs on the site once the development is complete. Another thing that I find ridiculous is people from Methley and Rothwell complaining about match day traffic. The only people travelling through these areas surely already do to go watch their current team whether it be Leeds, Wakefield or Castleford. People need to realise that we live on a small island with an ever growing population and it is a fact that green belt land is going to be built on.

And this is hardly a lovely green space that's been there for 100s of years. We're not talking about knocking down Sandal Castle, it was a dirty great coal mine. They never had vehicles going in and out, or noise did they?

Leeds councillors, sod off out of Wakefield District issues!