Sassy. But possibly quite true.

I have it on good authority that Gaskell and Lineham combined are on £200k per year....

Really don’t understand all this animosity towards Carter , it’s the players that are letting themselves and the club down not Carter . Do they really need a coach to tell them the gravity of the situation or to pack down in a set time or they will be penalised ,we’re talking the very basics of RL here ,something they will have been taught in their very early start of their career to even get a chance to play in Super League much later down the line ,no one gets through just going through the motions I don’t care who they are ,they all have to put some serious work in . The trouble we have is now they’ve made it they think they are on easy St ,and for all intense and purpose they have ,and the days of hard Graf are behind them , it’s almost like it’s written in the very culture/fabric at the club , get in and then do the minimum to keep yourself in , simple . Carters shortfall for me is not his supposed arrogance but his gullible/trusting personality, by giving out long contracts like smarties ,to has been and ageing players on the say so of a coach in the midst of his own death throws ,the same players who will now hold on until the very death like bloodsuckers getting their last fix of money on a mortally wounded beast . Poching is a very likeable guy and not for one minute am I expecting him to hang his players out to dry in the media ,even though behind the scenes he must have been candescent watching that tripe unfold on Sunday . Too nice a guy will be his downfall im afraid , but we all saw how the big stick approach ended last time under BS .

I have heard the same too.

I hope though that it is false, neither of them are worth anywhere near as much as that

I did not think for one minute there was any criticism towards Carter from your post, it just seemed easier to use it as a reference towards those that seem to think it's all his fault, apart from what some on here perceive as a big mistake giving Poching and his team the job and they're inability to bring out the best of what they have tactically, I can't honestly see where he's gone from hero to villain in 1/2 a season, when we strung a few games together at the back end of last season with the present coaching staff, you never heard a peep from all those with O levels in hindsight, now it's gone t!ts up there all experts, as for putting money into off field staff, with all this hindsight what's knocking about, maybe we could have put it to better use on field, which brings us back to Poching, is it is fault that he's having to select players that don't appear to be good enough or even want to carry on playing for the club, it's so easy and fickle to play the blame game, and just to be clear, I'm not blaming you

Alot of this is about the on field stuff I.e. coaching staff etc. I don't think we operate too dissimilar to other teams in Super League in that respect ie. A head coach, a couple of assistants, conditioner etc.

My question is how much help behind closed doors where no one can see anything does the club pay for? Is it on par with other clubs who I assume have lots of people doing lots of work I.e. attracting more investors or sponsors or marketing the club. Or is it a closed shop and one that we are very much limiting our effectiveness? I genuinely don't know the answer. But surely some of the money we spend on the dross on the field would be better spent behind the scenes? I'll repeat I genuinely don't know the answer and it's all hypothetical talk.

All noted and I don't disagree.

What I'm trying to work out in my own head is if we're good off the field, but terrible on it.

The reason you are good on the field is down to who you signed ,Think we're we are in the league says a lot about the signings

Remember what Poching did at the end of last season well just maybe he can do it again

Always difficult with players who were once good but then were on the slide. Some carry on trying their best and want a successful final hurrah. We've had a number of those. Others see it as a step-down so they wind down everything, in terms of commitment and effort.

Lineham once upon a time was a good winger. He could have been a useful big-bashing winger, in a Ryan Hall kind of way, but we don't know how they are going to fare until they arrive. It turned out it was a waste of time, but we've maybe got it right more often than wrong.

Gaskell, for me, is a decent stand-off, with decent distribution and an eye for a gap and an opportunity. If Miller is keeping him out of the team, that should be the end of it. Playing him out of position is disastrous. He has no pace left and I can't still can't fathom when he was full back at Salford in place of Jowitt, because it was one of the worst full back performances I have seen. That isn't about recruitment. That is about selection.

Absolutely correct 100%

Apples and pears I think, you have to be good in business to survive, where as in sport it's more of a gamble backed up by business, I'd just make my own mind up and stick to it, it's your money you make the choice, it might just be somebody else's opinion that's wrong, not yours

The figure will be at least £150K (both will be on no less than £75K each,the going rate for players like these 2 are between £65 and 100k so yes anything from £150k to £200k will be what rets spent on these 2 players a season

Whose authority's that then?

His own by the soumd of it......

Took advantage? Or helped you out?
Did you need the money or not? Were the players up for sale or not- because as I understand it a club that holds a players registration doesn’t have to give it up…… if Davy hadn’t opened his cheque book someone else may have- or perhaps no one would have- which would have been the better option?
Ken Davy has said he has a particularly good relationship with Wakefield and hull KR, (he has never got on with FC due to personal differences with Pearson over the football shares).

Whatever they are 'earning,' I reckon Lineham & Gaskell will be on far more than say Hall & Whitbread who have been the best 2 signings we have made. Will Gaskell now be brought back in at full-back for the easy beats that are St Helens?!!!

I'm told that everything and everyone has it's price, and I'm sure Mr Davey is the essence of a perfect gentleman, my post was not about the individual himself or his ability to buy players on the advice of the coaching staff even you have to admit they've had their fair share, but just simply in the context of my post regarding your sudden urge to highlight our apparent failings and I'm just questioning your reasons for the personal concern from somebody like yourself who has been as brutal as you have in being critical of our club.

I'm afraid Gaskell was a huge mistake for you as i commented when he signed from us, totally rinsed us for 2 years, then played well in last year or so for a final contract, real mercenary and a sign that your management hadn't done their homework, we had been trying to offland gaskell for a long time before you finally came in for him

I don’t like the club no, and I’m afraid it’s either you or salford I would prefer to see going down and I just can’t see it being salford. I do however have a fascination for how the fans on here have behaved over the last few months it’s been particularly interesting watching the ups and downs on this forum and how things have changed since the start of the season- apart from Pop tart with the eternal optimism and reluctance to admit when things were going wrong, and downright refusal to admit mistakes that have been made by those in charge.
Vastmans hypocrisy of the highest order, telling people off for giving the criticisms he himself later gives and the meltdowns have been particularly funny.
But there are some genuine fans who support Wakefield who I feel sorry for because we have been where you are now and it’s not pleasant. For many years there was a couple who had ST in front of us who would bring their adult lad who would wear his Wakefield shirt to the giants games every week. I also have a friend who’s son is in the academy at Wakefield (he grits his teeth to put on the shirt- and it rankles he can’t wear his giants colours anymore) and that’s obviously a worry for him- but he’s a very bright lad - A* student - and will have other options.
The genuine fans will continue for the most part. The hurt wears off, you enjoy the rugby again and the championship is not a horrible place-apart from Fev the fans are decent, the food tends to be better and the beers cheaper!

Ahh there we see it.
Must be a sad life when you get your kicks coming on a forum you care nothing about, just to tell people you don't like their club.

Support your own team if you can. Leave us to support ours however we see fit.

I think there is more to her post than that tbh

We'll the feelings are mutual jools I dislike the Huddersfield club.

Jools Ha! Ha! What an effing saddo!

Isn't he doing his job then? are the bills not getting paid? where's the money come from for this last batch of players?
Please point out where he has said unfortunately nobody will put any money in so we'll just drift into oblivion.
If you can actually point out with some hard facts where he's not doing his job, please enlighten those who think that under the present circumstances he is actually doing okay.